Kerry vs Tyrone

-3 8/11 k

Tyrone to stick it to them, +3 6/4 and a few bob outright. Think this is going to be a tight, a goal for either is going to be big in these conditions

cracking start

Kerry are certainties, Tyrone wouldnt beat Cathy Barry, they are playing the same old sickening Northern rubbish, and forcing Kerry to adapt, thus rendering the game a poor spectacle.
For football's sake it would be dreadful if Tyrone did fluke getting to a final.

Ref doing his best for Tyrone.

^^

So is Donaghy.

kerry 2/5 ht even tho tyrone are doing good.

fitz needs to reorganize here,whatever he does,he's got to get his 1/2 back line to hold.get sheehan on.

Penalty alright -  but Tyrone's antics in terms of looking for frees / appealing at the ref all the time would p1ss you off. Not too enamoured with Kerry over the years either - one of the games you want both teams to lose

Not enough liquidity on here to trade either, ah well!

stop, Kerry fouling is unreal, if ref had balls ther'd be 4 black cards

...missing the point, not talking about Kerry fouling (which they are), but its the exaggerated diving and hand up to the face and all their f*ckin' amateur dramatics is what people find annoying

Hard going in the conditions , Kerry just too many good players for Tyrone .

Lets hope for a Kerry vs  Dubs final , and good going underfoot .

good man barry john

i think kerry are ripe for the taken,if it is the dubs kelly?i would trade.

....as per last week - hurling analysts concentrate on game (accept bad decisions here and there)  - Football / Soccer analysts always ranting on about decisions.

Bit of a contradictory match in my view - Kerry slightly better more composed team, but Tyrone clearly had the better chances to win it.

Kingrat , no buttons pushed yet , even laid some of Tyrone at 7.6 outright during the match . Dubs are not great value at 6/4 given they have to beat Mayo ( could be tight enough ) and then Kerry .

Conditions did not suit Kerry today , they did suit Tyrone more .

Kerry should be about 11/10  max , but will be shorter if Mayo overturn the Dubs .

11/8 best kerry.betfred   dunno what they are like.cud be 5er merchants..

Kelly how would you price up the two possible 70 mins final?.

I would see it

Kerry 1/1 Dublin 1/1 draw 15/2

Kerry 4/7  Mayo 6/4 draw 15/2.

10/11 Dublin 5/4 Kerry 15/2 Draw
10/11 Kerry  5/4 Mayo  15/2 Draw

Dublin will batter Mayo who have only shuffled the deckchairs. Donaghy was like having 14 men in those conditions. Kerry need to seriously rejig to deal with the Dublin runners. 6/4 Dublin is more than fair, they've a much better chance than 40% of taking this AI.

KL, current betting suggests Dublin will certainly be fav if progressing. Kerry 2.3 now. Will obviously be quite a bit shorter if Mayo come through, though I doubt as short as 4-7. and a shade bigger if Dublin.

I have never been a Mayo fan Neill. I hate this...."they deserve one" bol*ox. They deserve one when they win one.

But I don't think Dublin will batter them. Mayo have faced sterner opposition than Dublin, and been impressive in doing so. Dublin will be a very tough nut to crack if they come through, with a real game under their belt.

I know I am on Kerry, so would make sense for me to want serial losers Mayo to be the final opposition, but Kerry v Dublin is a mouthwatering prospect.

Batter them was probably too strong a word alright Callit, my sentiments are borne from the idea of "what's changed"? They needed to uncover more players and they haven't.

I agree with Neill D, there's no reason to suggest Mayo are better than last year or any other year for that matter. After saying that they weren't far away last year so you couldn't rule them out. They should have beat Kerry last year but didn't, and they tend to do a lot of should haves over the years.
Still though the jackeens will be the same as every year, they have this air of confidence that they always have. They are bullies and when things are going smoothly then they are imperious , but when a team stares them down as Kerry normally do, then they fold like a pack of cards. Nobody will ever forget the time that Mayo who were a laughing stock at the time, came from about 2 goals behind Dublin one year. The stench of pooh was overpowering that particular day.

I don't think they are better than last year.

But as you say, they were not very far behind last year, and I just believe Dublin will be inconvenienced by their unbelievably easy passage so far. Hence potentially not quite at their best. There is not much margin for error at the top.

Gun to my head, I would pick Dublin, but I don't think Mayo are 15-8 shots.

i think dublin will click up a gear or two as required  and win both games with relative ease...mayo a bigger threat than kerry.kerrys backs lack pace.something dublin have a lot of(if they meet)

Dublin have a lot of pace alright kavvie, we will see it when they are running out the gate if things get tight in their next 2 matches.

my view on Dublin is at odds with many. this squad has been hailed as stars for the past few years, the hammerings of the minnows blind many punters, just like the same sort of punters love bridle horses hosing up in tame company, then when said nags are tested, their punters are dumbfounded by the generally negative results.


truth, Dublin have won 2 of the last 4 all Irelands, on each occasion by one point, not convincing at all.

the one game that I focus upon to illustrate the frailties of this 2015 Dublin squad is the leinster final versus Westmeath.

for nearly 45 minutes, the blanket Westmeath defence worked, to the extent that many of the Dublin forwards, such as Rock lost confidence and were passing the buck, until the two goals in a minute altered the outcome. the only Dublin forward to show  when things were tight was Connolly, and he is the only class Dublin forward have,when they have their backs to the wall...Kerry on the other hand have two maybe three quality forwards.

I have no doubt, that if tyrone had got Dublin today they would have turned them over. mayo get the opportunity next week, they could do it, as they don't fear Dublin.

the ability to win tight games defines champions, and the kingdom will be very hard to stop, and for what it is worth I believe that Fitzmaurice will prove himself to the best Kerry manager since micko, under-estimate him at your peril.

When Donaghy was picked to start today my initial thought was fitz only picked him because he is captain,but won't start him in the final,nothing I saw today changes that opinion.

If I remember correctly that in February 2014 there was a "crisis" in Kerry football,gooch injured,galvin retiring etc. I am not so convinced that this is a great Kerry team,although they have the best bench of the teams that are left.

Dublin/Mayo is so difficult to call,one thing for sure if mayo win the all Ireland,they will have beaten donegal,dublin and Kerry and then they will be deserving winners.

My tuppence worth is the all Ireland champions will play next weekend.

Just back from the match. A absolutely brilliant performance by Tyrone in defeat who I thought bettered Kerry in every aspect bar having a marquee forward. Wrong to say Kerry did not deserve to win but Tyrone were very unlucky. They had all the goal chances and what looked a clear penalty at the end. The scores at the end flattered Kerry a little. The outcome was within a breaking ball of going anyway at tied scores with a few minutes to go.

I have a hoarse voice and I have never been more disappointed to see Tyrone lose a game after the way they have been treated by many of our southern brothers in the past few weeks especially. A huge and very vocal Tyrone crowd turned up to support the team not just against Kerry but also against a disgraceful slur on its footballer led by the southern media and then by the GAA with the recent decision to bring charges against a Tyrone player. The fact that the GAA knew these charges could never stick showed the real intent was to shame Tyrone in absolutely disgraceful way and cause hostility towards them from other counties. A tyrone player just has to bump into a player these days and its on the news for two weeks.
That gobshyte Joe Brolley talks about Tyrone players not being manly but he played his whole career with wing mirrors and as for that Colm O Rourke. A very good player but another one who needed wing mirrors and was part of a great team but also one of the dirtiest. I still remember the day Meath took out Peter Canavan in the all Ireland semi final before the game was a minute old and denied Tyrone their first all Ireland which they almost certainly would have went on to win.

Well played to Kerry.

The Kerry defence was a carpet today. Tyrone bursting through the middle of it at will and they created more goal chances in one game today than they have all year.
The only positive is that they have time and the player pool to try and change things in their defence. The other factor favouring Kerry is that they are injury free going into the final with such a strong bench. Possible whoever gets through from Mayo or Dublin might pick up an injury or two in key positions.

Kerry missing a good big central defender , Tyrone and Cork ( first match ) exploited that  , middle route easiest way to throw the Kerry defence into disarray .  Losing Marc O Se to a stupid black card tackle ( what was that about Marc ? ) also opened a few doors for Tyrone .

Kerry have not been able to make use of Donaghy this year , unlike last year . Not playing as well , but he is captain , and he can turn a game in a flash .  Not sure he will get a pick for the final , if he is I would change tactics , let him stand in the right hand ( or left hand  corner  dependent on wind etc) one on one with any ( Dublin ? ) defender and he will win every high ball , in the middle it gets crowded and there is also a goalie to join in . Makes more room too for the ball players in the forwards . Kerry also have to find somewhere for  Sheehan , too good and too experienced not to be involved . Plus the free taking .

Tyrone ( thats Tir Eoin , not TIE roan ) played brilliantly , fired up no doubt by grievance real or imagined . And their non star players  stepped up , pleasing that for the future of the team .

Kerry can play better with a dry ball in hand , slipping and sliding does not suit most really skilful players .

Top marks to both teams for playing well in terrible conditions , tough match also to ref in conditions , players outperformed ref in that regard .

Rant over I think the soft centre to the Kerry defence exploited by Tyrone yesterday was one of them good things/bad things. Almost bad for them on Sunday but something they are bound to change for the final. They don't play two games the same and have a bench that could beat several county teams so hard to predict what team they will even put out for the final.
Especially as they have a manager who seems very good at highlighting changes that need to be made. For me the turning point of the semi final was when Kerry went man to man after half time on the Tyrone kick outs. The Tyrone keeper tried to still go short and ping 20 yard soccer passes to the defenders that went astray.

the kick outs were a shambles really.wont happen with cluxton tho.he can leave it on a sixpence long or short.its so important not its unreal.

now

I think Kerry's defence seems less porous when Aidan O'Mahony plays. He wasn't on for the 1st game against Crok but played the replay. He didn't play yesterday becacuse he was away for 2 weeks for his wedding and missed training.

It was probably exagerated yesterday by the fact that Tyrone used sean cavanagh as a decoy to drag Peter Crowley away from the centre to create space and it worked. Kerry defended very well in the final last year and I expect a clean sheet in this years final also.

i dont think tyrone can have any complaints,the game was there for them.they had kerry rattled but didn't have the players up front to kill them.kerry have a serious problem with their 1/2 back line.fitz cant perform major surgery there now and will at least have to go with two of them,any other options is a gamble.o'mahony has the street smarts to bring order and has to line out for the final.

Agree Tyrone don't have anyone close to a really top class forward. If they did they could have walked some of those chances into the net.
But man alive can someone tell me what possible motive would a player in full possession of the football deliberately dive 5 yards from goal. Its not like soccer when a player who dives is not actually in full contact with the ball at the time. Its not even like a player going down to feign injury.  You might be able to say it was not a penalty and he fell to the ground fairly under pressure but how on gods earth could you say he dived deliberately in such a situation. Has there ever been another example of a player deliberately diving with the ball in his hand?

The GAA really need to give a lot of these umpires their P45s, time to put referees in there for the big games and let them make the calls in around the square.

anyone got a pair of tickets for my son and his mayo girlfriend for next sunday??

Thought it was a right good game and thoroughly enjoyed it even if I did get pissed on for the majority of the day, had Tyrone took one of those goal chances or got that second penalty they may just have pulled it off, anyway I thought the approached the game with an excellent attitude and it was not the dour borefest most where predicting.

AS a Dub i would like the us to win the all ireland but  theres part of me saying that it would be great if Mayo won after 7 loseing finals since 1951.

i agree frank.31 counties would wish that.but as someone said all irelands have to be earned..

Its time Mayo got rid of the Jimmy White Complex Kavvie, ..thay are good Enough to win the Sam Maguire Cup.

im sick backing them..since 1996  to be exact!!

It seems there is one survivor left from the Mayo team that last won the All Irel in 1951 and which has become the subject for that silly curse. The Gov't have decided to give him 24 hour security just in case there are any idiots out there who believe in such hogwash. The Taoiseach has arranged to visit him on saturday next when the security detail will begin.

If there were no good teams about , Mayo would have surely won an Ireland despite the curse . Trouble is there have been decent teams there to beat them recently when they have had their best team for a long time . Now they have to face the Dubs in their own den , and if they get to the final a Kerry team which is probably better than that which won in 2014 .

Odds are right I reckon , they are about 9/2 proper odds .

Wouldn't begrudge them a title , family connections there so they are third in line to Down and Kerry in this household .  Logic though tells me they may miss the boat again .

Mayo have not won an All-Ireland football final since 1951. Legend has it that a priest became incensed when the Mayo team bus returning home from the 1951 final passed by a funeral without showing due respect as they celebrated their All-Ireland win. The priest supposedly cast a spell on Mayo, claiming they would not win another title until all of the team had died. for the record Mayo beat meath 2-8 to 0-9,  Reb the poor lone Survivor  of the 51 team must have a few nightmares over the years Whether he believes cures or not,

as if a priest would cast a spell. the last two finals were there for the taking they just couldn't play ball. simple passes given away and poor management. interesting to see if they can win any dublin kickouts this time round. would have been in the final had they dropped o shea back last year when 5 pts up and a man down. crazy decision to not drop someone back.

looking forward to heading up to this at the weekend. both teams have looked vulnerable at the back this year. might get on overs in the points total

The Taoiseach has arranged to visit him on saturday next when the security detail will begin

One look at Enda might finish the poor fella off