.....Gatsby.....

At the prices he's well worth a few quid,GL.

Not sure the first time visor can work the oracle but it might wr.

I believe free eagle is different gear to all of these tbh but is he ready is the question. Last years Gatsby would be a short price. GAILO CHOP would be interesting if he got an easy lead, some serious form there, perhaps a bet i-r but free eagle just has so much potential and looks to have his ground, he also went well in his debut so fresh could be another plus, he also races handy.

FREE EAGLE WIN

i gotta back the grey gatsby agin..this time smaller stakes..hes a great ew price..

I'll swerve him.  In an interview on RTE at The Curragh the trainer said the horse liked it out east, it renewed his interest.  Translation: he has lost interest.
And I thought the horse looked pudgy at The Curragh.  Perhaps he wasn't training well.
The trainer said that day the target was Royal Ascot.
I place laid him at The Curragh and backed Al Kazeem.
Today I'll just watch him.  He might be back.

Well done kincsem on that nice win in the Curragh, amazing how these guys are always taking a watching brief before a race like today , but seem to enjoy tremendous success in races that have finished .
Back to the original topic, wonks I know you get money soft but that's no excuse for firing it away all the time . The grey gatsby is an absolute screw, is trained by a guy who wouldn't train a dog to sit down, and has been rejected by Ryan Moore. He was never that good a horse and he isn't even genuine now, as he's even started to play up pre race. Now you will have clowns saying Moore had to ride for stoute, well as you can see from what's happening this year, Moore can ride for who he likes. Gatsby is a million wonks, keep your money in your pocket for the next race at least.

Kavie while I happen to think Ryan is a decent trainer. Your argument is rubbish. There are plenty trainers who are hopeless and still have plenty of owners. P Rothwell being one. Must have 50-60 horses in training so yes most owners are clowns who haven't a clue what's going on.

I don't rate any North of England flat trainer kavvie, or jockey for that matter. It's just not proper racing that these guys are involved in, the only possible exception would be maybe Mark Johnston , but even he struggles to be competitive in any kind of a race further than a mile. Ryan comes across as a woodner when he's being interviewed , he's certainly no John Gosden now is he?. Looking at today's race and you have Stoute Weld gosden lellouche etc, are you trying to tell me that Ryan is on a level playing field with them . To me Ryan would be on a level playing field at Ripon today, that's his level.

I am with Mincer on this one.

all about opinions!!

Was in Hambleton last week and couldn't believe how near the road his yard is Kavvie,the pub is almost attached to it.The hill up to it is unreal its called Sutton pass how they get horseboxes up it is a miracle .Mayfield I'm inclined to agree about this fellow Gatsby but taking the chance that a horse that was so good last year still has something to show,although recent evidence says otherwise.

Mayfield, hes the top rated horse offically and by the R/post ,so you have to respect his chance, thing is, i have a uneasy feeling that he might just have fallen out of love with the game.  So its the last chance saloon.Welds F.E. is full of potenial but has to do it,Ercot was a smashing horse last year, backed it in the Arc.  Its a race that has all sorts of possibilities.

He might have looked a picture the last day but he was well overweight and was prepared poorly for the contest. Was it not apparent he was carrying plenty of condition in the paddock?

Should improve plenty for it but whether Ryan can get the job done with a high class middle distance older horse is debatable.

Agree with norn iron, Rizeena has a big chance here. Get ready for the Clive Brittan jig

Iv'e taken Mincers advice and gone off The Gatsby,Few quid on Ectot.

Totally different horse today when he was actually fit.

Unlucky but the winner should confirm form going forward as well if he was a little short today.

Just saw it, Temlett was right, Ryan has probably been very circumspect with how much work he had given TGG for the Curragh as he hadn't had one like him before.

What a performance from Weld's though. The trainer needed a horse like this and to win a real blue chip Group 1. Great performance, I didn't hear the comm but saw the pictures on live stream, looked like that might have been as quick as he wants it?

I take back what I said about TGG to a large extent, but FE is a much pacier, more tractable horse and I could see TGG being done again at relatively short odds.

The gatsby wasnt robbed cheltenham, poor management by the connections has cost them the race. When Ryan Moore wasnt available, there was still the world of jockeys they could choose from, why would anybody want anything to do with Jamie Spencer.
The horse ran a blinder, much better than I thought he would, and anybody who backed him can blame nobody except the person who gave the go ahead to book Jamie Spencer.

thought smullen gave it sum ride..

Should have won a minute..

Smullen gave it sum ride great jockey very few mistake just look at the ride on the winner of the last at Sligo the other evening