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22 May 15
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Any particular reason or are you still with the "if two people love each other " line.
Reasons to vote No.
The wording of it is dishonest,its not about equality.
Why redefine marriage,they already have civil union.
The cost,there will be a huge financial cost to the state.
You are bestowing rights without knowing the consequences.
The legal profession are rubbing their hands,prospect of some lucrative divorce cases.
Constitutional lawyers are rubbing their hands,the state will now have to fund homosexual couples in their pursuit of children.
Pension rights,despite claims to the contrary there tends to be huge age discrepancies in these unions as well as wealth discrepancies..
This will have to be taught at school as its now regarded as an equal lifestyle.
Where did the Yes side get their huge funding,it came from America,why?
The group think,all politicians in both houses bar two are in favour,show them we are not sheep.
The people in favour,Bono,Bob Geldof,Sineid OConnor whose letter was similar to the opening post,no explanation just an instruction.
Gays can marry they just like everyone else must marry someone of the opposite sex.
If as seems likely the referendum is carried,the gay lobby won't go away,there will be new demands.
Any man who has children would be stark raving mad to vote for this
Reasons to vote No.
The wording of it is dishonest,its not about equality.
Why redefine marriage,they already have civil union.
The cost,there will be a huge financial cost to the state.
You are bestowing rights without knowing the consequences.
The legal profession are rubbing their hands,prospect of some lucrative divorce cases.
Constitutional lawyers are rubbing their hands,the state will now have to fund homosexual couples in their pursuit of children.
Pension rights,despite claims to the contrary there tends to be huge age discrepancies in these unions as well as wealth discrepancies..
This will have to be taught at school as its now regarded as an equal lifestyle.
Where did the Yes side get their huge funding,it came from America,why?
The group think,all politicians in both houses bar two are in favour,show them we are not sheep.
The people in favour,Bono,Bob Geldof,Sineid OConnor whose letter was similar to the opening post,no explanation just an instruction.
Gays can marry they just like everyone else must marry someone of the opposite sex.
If as seems likely the referendum is carried,the gay lobby won't go away,there will be new demands.
Any man who has children would be stark raving mad to vote for this
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Took your time Borneo
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Great to see people still handing out "YES" stickers at Sandyford Luas stop this morning and loads wearing them with pride
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What is it about denizens of Dun Laoghaire that makes them feel superior.
A complete inability to argue just give bland instructions. The infamous letter from the Killiney address was a bald instruction to vote yes from Bono,Bob Geldof,Sinead OConnor and the biggest fraud of all Paul Durcan. Premier Fantasy another Dun Laoghaire resident similarly here just gives out an instruction and does so in a patronising way. Dun Laoghaire was always a place of sadness,the Mail Boat and a band playing Farewell To Erin its now the capital of liberal intolerance. |
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 I am not from Dun Laoghaire and only venture down there during the summer to the seafront, hope this helps old chap - the town is still a kip and pretty much a ghost town these days although they're trying to sort that out I believeI have faith though the good working class residents of Dun Laoghaire and it's surrounding areas will emphatically vote "YES" |
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Its not only a town its a borough.
The trendy liberals will all vote Yes but the No votes will come from the few working class areas. |
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No they won't, I am from a working class area and it will return a yes vote
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none of my business how Ireland voted...but I have sympathy with Wildman..he makes valid points about the yes lobby but I can tell him ..over here it has not made a big difference(like others I was not for it as long as civil partnerships done the job for gay men and women)I know 2 gay couples who were against this..as they think civil partnerships gives them all they need,but times have changed,and sometimes Wildman we have to accept it and move on..
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You know your own area,the breakdown will be interesting.
I think there will be the usual urban rural divide. I also think there will be a class divide albeit not nearly as pronounced. Hard to believe you are from a working class area yet get the Luas in Sandyford. |
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So it's made no real difference over there Tony but Wildman makes valid points? Seems contradictory to me as if his points are valid it would make a huge difference, though the majority of the country knows what he says will happen won't
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Tony57 all are welcome to comment.
There is a huge difference though as Gay marriage here is being enshrined in our constitution,its also going in under the family,this bestows rights. The rapacious lawyers are already getting ready to sue the state claiming homosexual couples have the right to " beget children ",This not alone means surrogacy but it means we will have to pick up the tab. Another unforeseen consequence could be the demand for gay asylum seekers to get here to avail of this exclusive free service. |
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the massive propaganda and intimidation campaign from the YES side should have delivered a clear and large majority in their favour
if the margin in favour turns out to be a slim one it will be a moral victory for the NO side and the plain people of Ireland. unfortunately i can't see a NO vote being returned. |
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I don't get the Luas up here I was walking past the stop, anyway the Luas goes through Cherrywood, hardly a well to do area - you shouldn't really quote on things you know nothing about
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the valid points premier are the ones on the family and surrounding kids..and whats taught in school..it will all have a knock on effect..over here schools can choose what is taught so kids getting told 2 dads is normal..when its not..can be refined..to 2 people who love each other of the same sex etc...can you not see how people can object to this especially people of faith?..i just point out one problem..?
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You weren't walking passed the stop but sin sceal eile.
The fact that you don't see a difference between Gay marriage in Britain and Gay marriage here shows how shallow your thinking is and why you can't make any rational argument. |
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Why is it always 2 dads that's mentioned, is it just homosexual men you all and the "no" campaign object to? What about 2 mothers?
I have not heard that mentioned once, either on here or by any "no" campaigners. Maybe my school was odd but they never thought me anything about what was normal as re families or anything like that |
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I can assure you I was walking past the stop as the Luas goes nowhere near where I live, stop doing your usual and posting your made up in your head assertions as fact.
Anytime you want me to show you up with your made up nonsense give me a shout as it is quite enjoyable |
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For the obvious reasons.
With two men there is a mother who is dealt out. We are always being told about gender balance,quotas for women but in the one area gender balance is necessary this liberal constant is trumped by the new tyranny. |
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So having 2 mothers is normal?
don't be getting yourself tied up in knots now |
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Why on earth would you be walking past a Luas station in Sandyford this morning.
Sandyford is opposite Leopardstown yet you previously claimed you hailed from Ballybrack. Other claims you have made are running up Killiney hill. |
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Ermmmm because I was going to work Sherlock
and I never claimed I hailed from Ballybrack, I hail from Sallynoggin thanks - struggling to follow thread these days me old china |
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Tis you that is tied in knots.
With two women( only one mother ) it is generally a sperm donor,he doesn't care where his seed goes so is not dealt out,this is not the case with two men. There is a mother involved,generally impoverished and generally heartbroken when the contract is enforced,reference the recent case in England where the judge accused the mother of breast feeding the baby to thwart the gay couple. |
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I am tied in knots
you made a fool of yourself pretending you know the area around here and wondering why I would be around here |
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You popping down to Ringsend tomorrow PF?
An all open race card or as good as - Must be the first of the year! |
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I won't be in tomorrow
 already had plans. Yeah it is a good Oaks so will be top notch racing |
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You couldn't understand the difference between a sperm donor and a woman carrying a baby for nine months.
The bit about Dun Laoghaire is light hearted and not serious. If you remember I skittingly referred to you as a neighbour of Dustin,you said you weren't you were from Ballybrack,you also were concerned on another thread about the staff of the Ballybrack office. |
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I have never claimed to be from Ballybrack, if you can bring that thread back up I will donate 5k to the IJF
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Now here is your chance to raise some money for "the bravest men on the earth", prove me wrong and you not somebody who just makes things up and posts them as fact
For me it will just prove my point |
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in your own time or I am sure an apology will be coming my way with an admission you just made it up
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Its here somewhere but I haven't the ability to find it.
Distant View is a gentleman saw you in trouble so came to your aid. |
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You have been shown up for the liar you are, everybody can now see it, even those who defend you if they've any backbone at all will come out and admit it.
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I think Wildman is right here Premier tbf,you did allude to it.
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Ah the yes man arrives, the man who own opinion is whatever wildmanfromborneo tells him his opinion is
Off you go to then pa lapsy, prove it!! I will bring the thread back up now and expect an apology from you 2 cretins |
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p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y 29 Apr 15 11:26 Joined: 08 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 11,974 | Blogger: p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y's blog I would not know if they went that price or not as i don't use them, and the shop in Ballybrack is the one mooted as going Rate reply: | report block user wildmanfromborneo wildmanfromborneo 29 Apr 15 11:22 Joined: 30 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 17,339 | Blogger: wildmanfromborneo's blog Don't tell us the shop in Sallynoggin is closing,I think that's the one that went 8/1 Felix Younger. Rate reply: | report block user p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y 29 Apr 15 11:08 Joined: 08 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 11,974 | Blogger: p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y's blog some of the shops out my way are supposed to be closing, sad for the staff but no real loss as they layed sfa |
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So Wildman knows I am from Sallynoggin on that thread yet now says I claim to be from Ballybrack
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Ah well from that ladbokes thread you say some of the shops out your way are going and then you quoted the Ballybrack one,isn't it understandable that anyone would think you were from around there? No big deal where you live with me and honestly don't know how close(or not) they areas are to each other. No need to be like that as you can see where a misunderstanding could occur.
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" two cretins "
Lighten up any discussion on where you are from was light hearted and not to be taken seriously. My recollection was a discussion over Dustin and you saying maybe in jest that you weren't a neighbour,my other recollection was you mentioning Ballybrack. The reason I mention Sallynoggin in that thread is a continuation of the Dustin theme,it should never be taken seriously and isint worth such anger. |
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So I never said I hail from Ballybrack, don't expect you 2 to apologise as it's clear what ye are
As for wildmanfromborneo, had he been telling the truth he could have made a substantial fee for his beloved jockeys and their injured fund but alas he was wrong as per usual and just making things up Ah well a pleasing morning showing you up for exactly what you are |
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The big divide in this this referendum isn't so much age or class, it's male and female. If it was just men voting it would be defeated, I haven't met one woman yet who's voting no(exp. In the 30-40 age group)
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There should be a straight pride parade organised...where we shut down dublin city centre for an afternoon dress unfashionably wave flags and blow whistles in gay peoples faces.
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