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Catch Me ifyoucan
28 Apr 15 11:03
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Local time in SAN FRAN (8hrs behind) so 17.50 Irish-time Wednesday evening.......

    9.50        Justin Rose (4/7)        Marc Leishman (9/4)   
    10.00        Ryan Palmer (1/2)        Anirban Lahiri (2)   
    10.10        Jimmy Walker (4/6)        Gary Woodland (11/8)   
    10.20        Ian Poulter (8/11)        Webb Simpson (11/8)   
    10.30        Henrik Stenson (4/9)        John Senden (9/4)   
    10.40        Bill Haas (4/5)        Brendon Todd (11/10)   
    10.50        Matt Kuchar (8/13)        Ben Martin (2)   
    11.00        Hunter Mahan (8/13)        Stephen Gallacher (7/4)   
    11.10        Jason Day (4/7)        Charley Hoffman (2)   
    11.20        Zach Johnson (11/13)        Branden Grace (6/5)   
    11.30        Sergio Garcia (1/2)        Tommy Fleetwood (7/4)   
    11.40        Jamie Donaldson (9/10)        Bernd Wiesberger (1)   
    11.50        Jordan Spieth (3/10)        Mikko Ilonen (3)   
    12.00        Lee Westwood (4/6)        Matt Every (11/8)   
    12.10        Patrick Reed (2/5)        Andy Sullivan (2)   
    12.20        Ryan Moore (4/6)        Danny Willett (11/8)   
    12.30        Jim Furyk (11/18)        George Coetzee (8/5)   
    12.40        Martin Kaymer (4/6)        Thongchai Jaidee (6/4)   
    12.50        J B Holmes (8/11)        Marc Warren (6/4)   
    1.00        Brooks Koepka (11/13)        Russell Henley (6/5)   
    1.10        Bubba Watson (5/11)        Miguel Angel Jimenez (5/2)   
    1.20        Louis Oosthuizen (6/7)        Keegan Bradley (1)   
    1.30        Rickie Fowler (3/4)        Harris English (11/10)   
    1.40        Graeme McDowell (11/13)        Shane Lowry (5/4)   
    1.50        Dustin Johnson (8/15)        Matt Jones (2)   
    2.00        Victor Dubuisson (4/5)        Charl Schwartzel (11/10)   
    2.10        Adam Scott (8/13)        Francesco Molinari (7/4)   
    2.20        Chris Kirk (6/4)        Paul Casey (8/13)   
    2.30        Rory McIlroy (4/9)        Jason Dufner (9/4)   
    2.40        Billy Horschel (20/19)        Brandt Snedeker (5/6)   
    2.50        Hideki Matsuyama (11/18)        Alexander Levy (6/4)   
    3.00        Kevin Na (4/6)        Joost Luiten (5/4)   
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Report applehunter April 28, 2015 2:15 PM BST

Printable PDF of the bracket.
Report huddys April 28, 2015 5:52 PM BST
Backed two player against the field,
Dustin Johnson e/w 20/1,

Henrik Stenson e/w 20/1,
Report Kelly April 29, 2015 12:55 AM BST
Considering the worlds top 64 are playing in this event , so far betting turnover has been sparse , which leads me to thinking that there is little interest in the event . Tiger and Phil are not playing , which robs the event of 2 prime characters , who are  always of interest to the golf fans worldwide .

I like the concept of the round robins , if only for the fact that the better players should survive to the later stages even if they have one bad round ( which most players are capable of ) . Betting on the individual first day matches which start in under 24 hours has been minimal to date as far as I can see .

Only one I like is Kuchar to beat Martin . Relevant odds though .

Reckon Paul Casey might give it a lash overall .
Report applehunter April 29, 2015 1:15 PM BST
Always a tough betting heat.

Course with tight treelined fairways, juicy rough and greens not as quick as usual PGA tour greens.

Narrows it down a good bit.


Paul Casey
Jim Furyk
Russell Henley
Graeme McDowell
Harris English
Ricky Fowler
Jordan Spieth
Patrick Reed
Sergio Garcia
Charley Hoffman
Justin Rose
Ryan Palmer
Jimmy Walker
Ian Poulter
Webb Simpson
Matt Kuchar
Hunter Mahon
Henrik Stenson
Brendon Todd

Think the winner will come from either Group 11 or 13.

Group 11 looks a real Group of Death with Walker, Poulter & Simpson & Woodland.
Group 13 Fowler, McDowell, English, Lowry

Couple small outrights from either side of the draw.

Sergio Garcia 33/1 EW Gen. Course should suit.  Concede there may be question marks over his form this season.

Harris English 90/1 EW PP Big price if that he gets out his group(Fowler, McDowell, Lowry). But if he does he will have every chance to go to semis from weak side of draw.

Mainly a week for singles and accums. though.
Report newapproach April 29, 2015 1:37 PM BST
Have had a crack @ one in each quarter of the draw:

Patrick Reed 25/1

Hideki Matsuyama 33/1

Jimmy Walker 35/1

Russell Henley 80/1

Good Luck all.
Report callitasucit April 29, 2015 2:30 PM BST
Have never really had much luck in the outright market of this event, but have given it a whirl again, going with one form each quarter.

Paul Casey, Matt Kuchar, Jordan Spieth, Graham McDowell, Jason Day and Ian Poulter were the ones that interested me at the early prices.

Left Day and Poulter out, as think Spieth will be more suited to the track than Day, who may find a few wayward drives not being forgiven, and the Masters champ can take care of him in their quarter.

Poulter has a very tough group, and though Kuchars is no cakewalk, he looks a shade better value.

Casey will relish being back in this event, and is in fine form.

G Mac looks made for this track, and combined with his fine matchplay record, he looks a cracking bet at 50-1.

Spieth has a tough draw, but is walking on air at the moment, and 11s is acceptable.

Will update P & L next week. Busy week of sport and work this week again!

2.5pts e.w Jordan Spieth 11-1
1pt e.w Matt Kuchar 33-1
.9pt e.w Paul Casey 35-1
.8pt e.w Graeme McDowell 50-1

The 8-13 on Matt Kuchar to account for Ben Martin looks just too goo to be true. Got as much on as poss, and put remainder on at the perfectly acceptable 8-15.

8pts Matt Kuchar 4-7 average

Rory McIlroy has a horrific record for someone of his stature and SPs in this event, and can be taken on by Brandt Snedeker in his quarter.

2pts Brandt Snedeker Group 1 4-1
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 29, 2015 2:50 PM BST
Catch Me ifyoucan • April 27, 2015 5:58 PM BST
On CASEY 40's

Catch Me ifyoucan • April 27, 2015 6:21 PM BST
BACKED REED 28's too
Report callitasucit April 29, 2015 8:14 PM BST
Keegan Bradley looks worthy of support against Louis Oosthuizen in the 9.20 match.

I would make him 1.7. Evens looks big.

3pts Keegan Bradley 1-1
Report Ozymandius April 29, 2015 9:48 PM BST
Kuch AS thru 14 Plain
Report callitasucit April 29, 2015 10:52 PM BST
Kuch loses 17 to a hole in one....then misses a 4ft bird putt on 18 to extend. After Identity Thief(1.14) and Figaro Flyer(1.0?), I am beginning to think I killed the wrong spider!!
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 29, 2015 11:42 PM BST
Backed HAAS 40's
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 29, 2015 11:55 PM BST
and Oosthuizen 33's (that me 4 quarts done)
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 1:18 AM BST
Schwartzel vs Johnson should be a good match tomorrow.
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 1:27 AM BST
Great win from Lowry.

His short game is very tidy.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 30, 2015 1:28 AM BST
Shane beats Gmac 1up
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 30, 2015 1:55 AM BST
Rory 5/4
Horschel 5/4
Matsuyama 5/4
Molinari 5/4
Schwartzel 5/4
Dustin 3/1
Oosthuizen 6/5
Bubba 5/4
Lowry 1up
Fowler 1up
Warren 2/1
Koepka 1up
Kaymer 3/1
Furyk 3/2
Westwood 1up
Spieth 4/2
Willett 3/2
Reed 2/1
Donaldson 1up
Sergio 2up
Zach 2up
Charley 4/3
J.Senden 1up 19th
Haas 3/2
Mahan 7/6
Ben Martin 1up
Woodland 1up 19th
Simpson 3/2
Lahiri 4/2
Leishman 3/2
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 30, 2015 9:18 AM BST
THURSDAY evening.....pity it only starts at 9pm on tv...although the late closing time is great.

    17:50        Jim Furyk (8/15)        Thongchai Jaidee (21/10)   
    18:00        Martin Kaymer (8/11)        George Coetzee (11/8)   
    18:10        J B Holmes (6/7)        Russell Henley (11/10)   
    18:20        Brooks Koepka (8/11)        Marc Warren (6/4)   
    18:30        Bubba Watson (4/6)        Keegan Bradley (7/5)   
    18:40        Louis Oosthuizen (2/5)        Miguel Angel Jimenez (11/5)   
    18:50        Rickie Fowler (8/11)        Shane Lowry (11/8)   
    19:00        Graeme McDowell (13/14)        Harris English (11/10)   
    19:10        Dustin Johnson (8/13)        Charl Schwartzel (11/8)   
    19:20        Victor Dubuisson (1)        Matt Jones (11/10)   
    19:30        Adam Scott (6/5)        Paul Casey (11/10)   
    19:40        Chris Kirk (19/20)        Francesco Molinari (6/5)   
    19:50        Rory McIlroy (2/5)        Brandt Snedeker (5/2)   
    20:00        Billy Horschel (4/6)        Jason Dufner (13/8)   
    20:10        Hideki Matsuyama (4/7)        Joost Luiten (7/4)   
    20:20        Kevin Na (4/5)        Alexander Levy (11/8)   
    20:30        Justin Rose (1/2)        Anirban Lahiri (2)   
    20:40        Ryan Palmer (4/5)        Marc Leishman (11/10)   
    20:50        Jimmy Walker (8/11)        Webb Simpson (6/5)   
    21:00        Ian Poulter (11/13)        Gary Woodland (6/5)   
    21:10        Henrik Stenson (8/13)        Brendon Todd (6/4)   
    21:20        Bill Haas (4/6)        John Senden (6/4)   
    21:30        Matt Kuchar (5/12)        Stephen Gallacher (2)   
    21:40        Hunter Mahan (26/19)        Ben Martin (7/4)   
    21:50        Jason Day (4/7)        Branden Grace (7/4)   
    22:00        Zach Johnson (10/11)        Charley Hoffman (11/10)   
    22:10        Sergio Garcia (8/13)        Bernd Wiesberger (6/4)   
    22:20        Jamie Donaldson (8/11)        Tommy Fleetwood (26/19)   
    22:30        Jordan Spieth (10/29)        Matt Every (3)   
    22:40        Lee Westwood (8/13)        Mikko Ilonen (7/4)   
    22.50        Patrick Reed (8/13)        Danny Willett (6/4)   
    23:00        Ryan Moore (8/13)        Andy Sullivan (13/8)   
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 30, 2015 9:20 AM BST
Rory 5/4
Horschel 5/4
Luiten 1up 19th
Matsuyama 5/4
Molinari 5/4
Casey 1up 22nd ffs
Schwartzel 5/4
Dustin 3/1
Oosthuizen 6/5
Bubba 5/4
Lowry 1up
Fowler 1up
Warren 2/1
Koepka 1up
Kaymer 3/1
Furyk 3/2
Westwood 1up
Spieth 4/2
Willett 3/2
Reed 2/1
Donaldson 1up
Sergio 2up
Zach 2up
Charley 4/3
J.Senden 1up 19th
Haas 3/2
Mahan 7/6
Ben Martin 1up
Woodland 1up 19th
Simpson 3/2
Lahiri 4/2
Leishman 3/2

See Horsechel was 6 under par...anymore scores ?
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 9:27 AM BST
Lahiri & Spieth also -6
Report Catch Me ifyoucan April 30, 2015 10:33 AM BST
tks Apple

backed these in various accums.....any dodgy ones ?

Rory McIlroy @ 1.36
Billy Horschel @ 1.53
Hideki Matsuyama @ 1.53
Kevin Na @ 1.61
Bubba Watson @ 1.61
Louis Oosthuizen @ 1.36
J B Holmes @ 1.80
Jim Furyk @ 1.44
Martin Kaymer @ 1.61
Justin Rose @ 1.44
Marc Leishman @ 2.00
Henrik Stenson @ 1.57
Matt Kuchar @ 1.40
Hunter Mahan @ 1.61
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 10:59 AM BST
Don't think this is a layout for JB Holmes's skillset.

Like Palmer to beat Leishman.
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 11:12 PM BST
Classic matchplay from Fowler & Lowry.

Fowler breaking Lowrys heart on the greens.
Report applehunter April 30, 2015 11:16 PM BST
Big comeback win for Schwartzel.
Report callitasucit May 1, 2015 12:55 AM BST
Spieth still putting ridiculously well.

Kuchar has given himself a chance of progression. Though he will need help, and Stevie Gs matchplay record hardly inspires hope that he can beat Martin.
Report applehunter May 1, 2015 7:09 PM BST
Some great matchups tonight.

Mcilroy vs Horschell should be great.
Oosthuizen vs Bubba
Simpson vs Woodland
Spieth vs Westwood.

Those are the real grudge matches.

Other matches more complicated.
Report applehunter May 1, 2015 10:30 PM BST
McGinley co-commentary is dull.
Report gerrymc May 2, 2015 12:42 AM BST
Branden Grace - great form in recent European Tour events - looks to be on the weaker side of the draw - 25.0 looks a very decent bet.
Report Kelly May 2, 2015 2:24 AM BST
Brilliant finish by Rory . 2 down with 2 to play , birdie, birdie .  Dont think Rory would have won that 2 years ago , tougher now .
Report frank60 May 2, 2015 12:01 PM BST
My eyes were closeing watching Rorys match early this morning Kelly, but it was worth it, i backed 4 only 2 left Senden and Rory.Another late night tonight with the big fight as well.
Report Ozymandius May 2, 2015 12:24 PM BST
Agree abut Grace, gerrymc, will have an interest.

Wee Rory heading to Vegas tonight to hang with Diddy & Co. so an exit at some point today would suit him well.  Either way will be up all night chasing Punnani so cannot win overall in what is a grueling golfing w/e.
Report callitasucit May 2, 2015 12:33 PM BST
Cracking putt from Rory on 17. Though Horshel played his part by only parring the last.

Some comeback from Casey, though he too got more than a helping hand from Molinari.

Hunter Mahan is playing superbly, and given his draw, I would make him fav now.

3pts Hunter Mahan 7-1
Report applehunter May 2, 2015 12:52 PM BST
Great comeback from Rory. Horschel will be thinking about that one for a while.

Coverage should get easier to manage now. It was a bit all over the place over last few days. Jimenez vs Bradley in dead rubber has turned out to be the most talked about game. Basically squared up to each other.
Report huddys May 2, 2015 1:03 PM BST
Backed Paul Casey 12/1,
Report frank60 May 2, 2015 1:07 PM BST
I agree with you Callit about Hunter Mahan, 8/1 here, I backed Senden at the start of the tournement at big odds so it makes sense to have a punt on Mahan at 8/1 as he is playing Senden  tonight. goodluck.
Report itcanbedone May 2, 2015 9:53 PM BST
We have managed to put the kibosh on Grace and Mahan Cry
Report El Guerrouj May 2, 2015 11:14 PM BST
I backed Grace in his match. SorryGrin
Report El Guerrouj May 2, 2015 11:15 PM BST
I backed Grace in his match......SorryGrin
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 2, 2015 11:52 PM BST
Backed Oosthuizen 33's and on CASEY 40's from the start. The last five winners of Match Play have never won a major. In 16 events, 10 winners have worn the Stars and Stripes but six of the last nine have had foreign passports.


Rory McIlroy (1): He’s the best player in the world according to the rankings but some will argue that’s up for discussion with the recent play of Spieth. One way to sway the argument back in his direction is a victory this week but like any tournament he signs up for, McIlroy is looking to win. He can overpower courses and players and a cold putter will be the only thing that will hold him back this week.
CASEY (36), 2006 Volvo World Match Play Champion, his current form racking up four top 10s in his last six including T6 at Augusta his last time out. His splits are off the charts and his putter is working like it has been in the past. Hopefully he plays Oosthuizen in the semi-final tomorrow.


Oosthuizen (29): The injury bug has passed by this Major champ. He’s seventh in SGTTG and eighth in GIR. He’s also eighth in the all-around on the back three top 10s in his last six. He was T7 two weeks ago at RBC Heritage.
Jim Furyk (5): Furyk begins the week as one of four players looking for back-to-back wins after he won the RBC Heritage his last time out in a playoff. His confidence will be sky-high as he made 11 birdies in his last 20 holes to pick up his first title since the 2010 FedEx Cup.  His match play record isn’t hall of fame but his experience and his “grind-ability” is.


Danny Willett (48): His four starts in the States have resulted T12-T29-MC-T38. Not bad for a guy who’s not seen any of these courses. He’s 27 so he shouldn’t be afraid of much and had a distinguished amateur career as well.
Tommy Fleetwood (54): Another English virgin at just 24 he’ll chalk this week up as a huge learning experience. He has more rounds of 77 or worse than in the 60s in 2015 so he's the surprise package so far this week.


John Senden (60): Some guys are ranked in the OWGR because they are just getting their feet wet. Some guys are ranked where they are in the OWGR because they are going the wrong direction. Brisbane's Senden is the latter as he’s MC five times in nine starts in 2015 and his best finish was T31 at Doral.
Gary Woodland (50): After opening with T3 at Sony to start 2015 he’s gone on to MC in four of eight events. Those four weekends haven’t resulted in anything better than T21.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 9:36 AM BST
Won 12 of them 14 matches with Kaymer and Furyk letting me down for 13 & 14 way accums.

Funky Furyk now the man to beat.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 2:37 PM BST
Casey sick and vomiting over night
Report applehunter May 3, 2015 2:59 PM BST
Rory wins.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 3:30 PM BST
Backed Woodland 11/2 PP (WD Chelsea).
Report applehunter May 3, 2015 7:10 PM BST
Birdie eagle finish to take the match from Furyk.

Some performance.
Report Snookerpunter May 3, 2015 7:13 PM BST
Superb finish.

Had few quid at 2.62 outright when they were playing the 14th. He looked dead and buried when Jim was stiff on 16.

Looked beaten in his last 3 matches. Resilient.
Report frank60 May 3, 2015 7:20 PM BST
Two big hitters, Go rory
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 7:29 PM BST
applehunter  • April 29, 2015 1:15 PM BST 
...Think the winner will come from either Group 11 or 13.
Group 11 looks a real Group of Death with Walker, Poulter & Simpson & Woodland.
Group 13 Fowler, McDowell, English, Lowry

I tink so 2 Devil
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 7:33 PM BST
GARY went out to 9/1 around 4pm today (2 down to Willett on 4th or 5th at the time).
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 7:41 PM BST
Woodland is 0-2 in this event having been ousted in round one in each of his first two appearances. He exited 4 and 2 in 2012 and suffered a 19-hole loss to Graeme McDowell in last year's edition. Woodland has one top 10 (T3, Sony) in nine PGA TOUR starts in 2015 and missed the cut in his last loop at the Masters. The 30-year-old faced a steep challenge getting to the round of 16 facing Jimmy Walker (19th), Ian Poulter (4/2) and Webb Simpson (19th) in Group 11.
Report Snookerpunter May 3, 2015 7:42 PM BST
Are they teeing off shortly??
Report Ozymandius May 3, 2015 7:59 PM BST
Come on wee Rory! 

Diddy, Floyd, JayZ and Kanye are still hard at it Vegas, you can still join the partay at XS.

On my way boyz!
Report Vubiant May 3, 2015 8:00 PM BST
Bully -off @ 19.55BST.
Report Ozymandius May 3, 2015 8:01 PM BST
^ I wonder if Kelly gets a wee semi looking at that photo. Just a wee one.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 8:03 PM BST
Any betting on Willett/Furyk.
Report applehunter May 3, 2015 9:30 PM BST
Great to see a real world No. 1 doing it at the highest level a la Woods, Faldo, Norman doing his stuff.
Report Kelly May 3, 2015 10:13 PM BST
Often wonder how someone like Paul Casey can become unwell in the few hours between close of play last night and this morning .

Dont know if it affected him this morning , did not see the restart .

But with all the advisers , minders , entourage etc I would always think they should be  healthier than the average Joe Soap .

Anyone can pick up a bug , just unfortunate if it happens at a vital time .

Rory running away with the final , just a question of getting home before the fatigue associated with a lot of tough matches kicks in .
Report Ozymandius May 3, 2015 10:16 PM BST
they fly a lot, hard to stay healthy up in the air.
Report Ozymandius May 3, 2015 10:16 PM BST
they fly a lot, hard to stay healthy up in the air.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan May 3, 2015 10:39 PM BST
Breaking News:
Golf channel to cancel coverage of WGC Match Play final in order to bring live coverage of the end of Tiger & Lindsey's relationship.
Report Kelly May 3, 2015 11:31 PM BST
Reportage is that they are both too busy in their respective sporting lives to maintain the recent relationship .
Report Kelly May 4, 2015 8:42 AM BST
Now that Rory has consolidated his rating in one of the toughest arenas in golf , ie match play over a gruelling 5 days , looking forward to his reappearance on home soil from 28 May at Newcastle . Sure that he and his  team will enjoy being at home for the week showcasing just one of our jewels of Iriah golf courses .

The spin off from this is hard to quasntify , immeasurable  I reckon , tourism figures etc ,  well done the lad ( and JP plus , they sometimes have to take a bit of stick too ) .
Report dj876 May 4, 2015 9:42 AM BST
Interesting interview with Kimmage/GMac from last week for anyone that might have missed it****ll-people-im-irish-because-everyone-loves-the-irish-31171821.html

Which of the 3 segments would you place Rory ?

Rumours are circulating that MJ and Sir Charles have got their claws in again
Report Kelly May 4, 2015 9:57 AM BST
Seldom see the Indo bit , dj , must look it up .  Gmac has regressed recently though , reckon he needs to recharge his batteries with a few Ulster frys at home here , later this month that might happen . Marriage , fatherood , lifestyle all factors .

Cant address issue without research , suffice it to say for the present that I think Rory and his team have got things sussed , any hiccups from the past are exactly that , viz past history , walk away and forget it , put it down to inexperience .

Happiest team out there now , I reckon .  Good luck to all of them . History is exactly that , history .  History is OK if you learn from it , Rory and co have I think .  26 today the lad , shades of Genghis Khan albeit  tenuous .
Report Ozymandius May 4, 2015 1:07 PM BST
The lack of joy on here for his win his remarkable and telling.

Strange old tournament, the course looked dull, we didn't have the big names clash in the latter stages.
Report frank60 May 4, 2015 1:24 PM BST
Just as well Gary Woodland didn,t win Ozy, i had the good fortune to back Rory at 3 different prices on betfair ;i thought my bet was down more then once, I dare say Rory will enjoy his 26th birtday today with an added 1.5 millon into his bank a/c.Tongue Out
Report freddiek May 4, 2015 1:34 PM BST
lack of joy me a rse..a lot of people wouldnt be interested in a tournament with a format like that.

we've grown accustomed to rory winning regularly. I didnt watch any of it until the last few holes with furyk, i let a roar out when he drained that monster putt for the win. and i didnt bother watching the Woodland match, he was never losing that
Report Ozymandius May 4, 2015 1:47 PM BST
Backed him myself, Frank, despite my Vegas concerns.  Re the prize fund, have Horizon got their 20 mill in full as yet?

Good luck to him, he's just not pulling at the heartstrings of the nation for whatever reason.
Report frank60 May 4, 2015 2:32 PM BST
Maybe come Brazil time next year with Shane might change a few minds Ozy.
Report Ozymandius May 4, 2015 2:34 PM BST
Maybe.  Rory better bone up on the anthem because Shano will be giving it LARGE.
Report frank60 May 4, 2015 2:55 PM BST
Report Kelly May 5, 2015 11:35 AM BST
If it was Rory and Gmac representing Ireland , what does the team think would be an appropriate anthem ?
Report Ozymandius May 5, 2015 11:47 AM BST
Aye, and the next debate will be what fleg to unfurl should they win it.

Far too many complications, just leave these ****s out of it altogether and go with POD and Shane.
Report Kelly May 5, 2015 11:48 AM BST
Freddiek , I thought the format was good , the round robin aspect of it sustained interest in a lot of the groups until the final holes in the play off stages , even those matches involving zero scorers up to then .

Realise it did not suit some punters who did not know the rules properly and  who probably wasted a few quid in running .

The Yanks dont like match play , period . Our lads grew up on it , and it is a factor when it comes to Ryder Cups these days ( not pre mid seventies , when it took 10 years for the bigger ball effect to come into it ) .  That is a fact of life , and the Yanks dont rule the world --although they would like to , keeps the oil scene suitable for them .

Trouble is , some people expect Rory to win , expectation dulls down the joy slightly when you do win , Hurricane Fly is a good example of that , exploits largely forgotten now . Rory does not need any kudos ( although everyone appreciates praise ) , he has it sussed now . Fair play to him , but he is only 26 , not many of us had our lives well organised  at that age .
Report Ozymandius May 5, 2015 11:49 AM BST
Can't say fairer than that.
Report Ozymandius May 5, 2015 11:50 AM BST
Realise it did not suit some punters who did not know the rules properly and  who probably wasted a few quid in running .

There's none sharper than me!
Report Ozymandius May 5, 2015 11:57 AM BST
The thing is we compete in rugby as 'Ireland' not the 'ROI' the twin anthem thing is permissable.  Fortunately Big Davy Tweed dd not insist upon a Big Red Hand being superimposed upon the white segment in the tricolour...if he had, he probably would have got his the ROI flag is used.

We go to the Olympics as 'ROI' not 'Ireland' so doubt we will be allowed twin anthems or get away with saying to the IOC...pssssstttttt...Jacques...sthick on an auld cassette of the 'Mountains of Mourne' there if we happen to win the Golf.
Report Kelly May 5, 2015 12:02 PM BST
Just finished the Jack Kyle book , Ozy --- "Conversations with My Father: Jack Kyle " , enjoyable enough .  Anyone interested in the complexities of being Northern Irish , Ulster , dissenter educated , etc , representing Ireland in a 32 county context could do worse that read it .  David Hewitt was cut from the same cloth as Jack Kyle , same viewpoint expressed by him as Jack .

Kyle wrote an open letter to the papers in the late sixties , having a huge cut at a certain reverend gentleman who was poisoning the atmosphere up here - with tragic knock on effects ( not all his fault, it takes 2 to tango ) for 40 years plus . Re anthems etc , and with your rugby hat on , Ozy , they played the "Queen " in Ravenhill up to 1953 I think when Ireland were playing , there was a huge ( secret) row , the southern guys had a meeting , but sense prevailed .  Kyle and co thought the southern players were having a meeting praying for the Pope !
Report pa lapsy May 5, 2015 12:04 PM BST
Had to laugh at the two chanchers from Limerick who are in dispute with Paddies,they asked yer wan behind the counter to write out a Rory special to shoot par or under for 2nd(?) round at Augusta,he duly did and the two boys aren,t happy they haven't been honoured the 14/1(E40) and took it to the media.Clear palp for what was probably a good shade of odds on.
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