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By:
workrider
When: 01 Jun 15 18:26
You have often tied yourself up in knots,in fact you use words that really don't add a thing to debates. I'm beggining to think you just might be a school teacher or even a little bit above, your constant need to sound good makes a lot of what you actually say fickle .
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dj876
When: 01 Jun 15 20:47
Jeez A teacher?

You should know better than anyone that patience is not a quality I possess WR although the kids would probably be better behaved and have something between their ears.

The standard of educators in the country is currently plummeting and parts of the third level system resembles a cheap ponzi scheme which suits the state's manipulation of the data.

Although teaching should be a profession we respect,I feel they really let themselves down at the trade union conferences and many of them have an unjustified sense of entitlement. They're extremely slow to evolve and resistant to all change which ensures that secondary level education remains principally a test of memory and regurgitation (Maths/Physics the only exemptions)

I will have to stay away from these buy low/sell high threads going forwards but out of interest Kelly,what were your four racing bets in the last 12 months? I fully understand if you don't wish to divulge your trade secrets, the discrepancy between the actual price and your informed estimate of the implied probability must be astronomical in these four cases to trigger a move?
By:
Kelly
When: 01 Jun 15 23:17
Experience warns me that it would be pointless to respond re my last 4 bets ,dj876 . It's like the old chestnut about "when did you stop beating your wife " . If I post 4 winners I will only cop flak from the begrudgers / disbelievers , if I post 4 losers the same begrudgers / disbelievers will come out spitting  bile about being incompetent .

I have already indicated in part on a previous post regarding my last ( stand alone) bet , no doubt any detective minded forumite would be able to sleuth it out .

Any such bet I do is invariably in a level weight race , preferably on a horse with recent winning form , a competent jockey  and against opponents who have flaws , slow boats, bad jumpers , or deficient in stamina , or any permutation from  those conditions . The smaller the field , the bigger the bet , provided the odds are right and you can get on . Horse won easily as it was entitled to , 11/10( not the SP , it was on course  , and the only one wanted ) .

Re teachers etc my brother in law recently retired from University lecturing ( in the said maths / physics scene , same uni as myself ) . He said the standard of undergraduate capability  in maths on entry to uni recently was less than it was 50 years ago plus when we both undertook those said disciplines . They had to give nearly every  first year entry undergraduate a crash course in maths for approx a month to get them up to speed needed for further study . And there would only be 20 of them , my  physics class had 58 ( graduating) way back in the early sixties . So much for progress in a university where the student population overall increased by a factor of 4 in the intervening years . Reason for the relative downturn in recruitment ( a factor of about one twelfth ) : physics/ maths is too difficult compared with other degrees .
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 01 Jun 15 23:25
I missed out on University myself but am thinking of enrolling as a mature student.

Its all these new courses that are the attraction.

With all this fluffy talk of equality surely a place on the Equalities course beckons for me.
Presumably as we are all equal no need for any entrance qualifications ( I'm in ) and more importantly no exams at the end of the course.

I presume that after emerging from University I would hate my own country like all the other students.
By:
Vubiant
When: 02 Jun 15 15:09
Plus there's no such thing as 'fail' anymore in our glorious PC universe.
In fact I imagine you would all get identical grades in the exams -so nobody's fragile 'self-esteem' would be at risk of lowered.
Equal mediocrity awaits...go for it !
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Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 03 Jun 15 23:17
Sadly an unbelievable ending to what coulda shoulda woulda been an interesting thread.

frank60  • May 31, 2015 7:38 PM BST 
Well done to any who had the winner,
Tongue Out Devil
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Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 20 Oct 15 19:25
A bit early for a thread of it's own...

((((( " THE OPEN " ))))) Championship - ROYAL PORTRUSH 2019.


Congratulations to Royal Portrush (and Northern Ireland) for landing The OPEN Championship in 2019.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 03 Dec 15 17:16
While the K Club in Straffan, Kildare will host the 2016 Irish Open, I see it's set for the 5* Lough Erne Resort in Co. Fermanagh to host the 2017 Irish Open.
By:
TheWasp
When: 01 May 16 15:18

Jun 1, 2015 -- 6:09PM, Kelly wrote:


Fantasy again dj876 . Nowhere would I have said you should always take a profit shortsighted ( whatever that means) because simultaneous arbitrage is always shut down . I wouldn't even know what that was about  , it sounds like stock market speak . What I have  said is that I invariably trade out when I see it is sensible , but it is on my own decision regarding odds . So with the referred to Dublin decision . Purely on basis that there is many a slip between cup and lip , and I am happy with some profit as against major winnings ( major winnings do not apply to a 1/5 shot before there is any comeback on that ) .I back about 4 horses a year , have stated that many times . The fewer bets you have the more likely you are to win , people who bet in every race are the punters the bookies want , they want addictive gamblers in their shops despite the public stance . Numbers games should not be allowed in bookies shops . Put them in casinos or the like , and make them dress up to attend , we see that daily in the movies where people always win big . I wonder who sponsor the movies .People world wide like to gamble in various scenarios . But they also need protection , and should not be ripped off odds wise as they are in certain countries . Our bookies make up their own rules , their own odds , they rely on addictive behaviour to make profit .  I dont mind if they give the punter a fighting chance , increasingly though they keep shutting doors and increasing the restrictions beloved of the bean counters . Thank goodness for the exchanges , at least punters can see exactly whats on offer and for how much .  The bookies must hate the exchanges .


There you go kelly 4 horse bets a year you said, like i said hard to keep track of all the waffle

By:
Kelly
When: 01 May 16 16:31
I think you are a bit of a no hoper , the wasp .  I have said regularly on here that I find myself having only 3 or 4 bets a year , specifically those are bets where I lay off minimally if at all . They are usually each way bets on condition races , seldom big fields , and invariably with the distinct probability that I will be getting my money back even if horse does not win . Horse has to have good/winning form , distance , ground , jockey etc .

Hard to find races / horses ticking all those boxes , and sometimes even harder to get money on , bookies dont like laying in those races , for good reasons .

The rest of the time I back anywhere I find value , be it horse , golf , cricket , soccer , GAA , etc .  But I invariably trade , sometimes in running , sometimes pre kick off .

Re just being considered an arber , increasingly a lot of my betting is in running .  You cant arb in running  , most times you just have to sit and suffer and hope the pendulum swings your way . Still trucking .
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