Great Irish Racing families

You forgot about Ted (front shoes fell off) Walsh and Jennifer and Katie and Yong Ted who is married to one of the Carberrys who's mother is one of the Moores.

Sorry TG

I thought the Carberry's might cover the two firms you mentioned!

Sorry TG

I thought the Carberry's might cover the two firms you mentioned!

Mullins clan might be worth a mention.

TOM Dreaper  ,In all, he trained 26 winners at the Cheltenham Festival including the Cheltenham Gold Cup and the Arkle Challenge Trophy five times each and the Champion Chase six times. He won the Irish Grand National ten times, seven times consecutively (from 1960 to 1966). The only major race that he never won was the Grand National, coming second in 1970 with Vulture and in 1971 with Black Secret, ridden by his son Jim.

P.S Kitty  i left out that Tom Dreaper also trained the best 2 N.H. horses i ever saw, Arkle, and Flyingbolt  .

Vincent and Aidan are not related . Vincents family legacy rests within Coolmore though  , and his sons also trained with a modicum of success .

Tom Dreaper and Vincent were NH contemporaries , completely different approaches though ( when Vincent was the king of NH pre moving to the flat ) .

With you on Arkle and Flyingbolt , frank60 , and Dreaper had a lot of other star performers as well as the 2 afore mentioned highest rated chasers ever . Not a betting stable essentially though , that was another significant difference between Tom and Vincent . MV made his way initially via gambling , best ever I suspect , and he always had an eye for speed in his horses , NH and flat .

O'Grady worth a mention also . Best tip I ever got for a horse was via an uncle ( married to my aunt) who was friendly with Willie O'Grady . Wrote to my ubcle  regarding a novice he had in his stable , being targetted for Cheltenham festival . Solfen . Hacked up in the Broadway ( I think) and ran 2 days later over hurdles ( third as I recall ) at the Festival .  Horses were tougher in those days , think Flyingbolt also ran twice in 3 days at the  Festival meeting .

Kelly flying bolt won the queen mother by 15l and the following day he ran in the Champion hurde finishing 3rd, Pat taaffe bleamed himself for loseing,

A fair hawl from the appropriately named "Kitty Wells",thread was initiated tongue in cheek and the 2 intended bites landed with rare expedience.

Would Timmy Hyde's offspring's count through their marital conquests?

Meades and Kellys?Hardly have enough for a game of "ring a ring a rosey"

There is something lovely about Katie Wal**** not only her looks or her winsome slight stammer.

The bond between her and Ruby was there for all to see after Mondays National.

I think the family are a credit to Ireland and don't get why lots on here have it in for Ruby.

I'M SURE SHE'S HAPPY YOU HIGHLIGHTED HER IMPEDIMENT

Jaysus, god knows I have my own assorted twisted fetishes, but have never heard of a man drawn to women who stammer.

Only you could think winsome had something to do with fetishes.

Winsome to me means endearing.

I like her,she seems unassuming, i'd imagine she would be a fierce craic altogether if you could get inside her head.

A shrewd woman , buys and sells , and makes it pay...