Is it me

Gone.

There were too many posts espousing a Catholic viewpoint,this is now deemed offensive.

OK cheers not something I want to get involved in especially as I'm an atheist.

Cheers WMFB Ozy says I'm thick so the only way is up, at least I've learnt what "espousing" means

I believe you are a Chelsea supporter.

My take on John Terry is England threw away any chance in the last World Cup by not bringing him to Brazil,they did it  just to appease lunatics that hate football and despise football supporters.

The episode on the Paris train was more lunacy,no violence nothing wrong yet Chelsea supporters ended up being hounded for being football supporters.

The nonsense on the train took away from what was a good result that night, even more so as Chelsea got beat at the Bridge. I'm a bit of a rarity as a Chelsea fan where JT is concerned, great servant to the club etc etc but as a man, he's a horrible C... Not because of giving Wayne Bridges X a shot, lets face it a stiff d!ck has no conscience. I'm not his biggest fan due to him parking in a disabled spot because he didn't want his family to walk to far to a Pizza restaurant. I lost my missus to the big C. She hated being cooped up indoors so I would always try to get her out, she like many needed those spaces. He was England captain at the time, guarantee it's not something Beckham would of done.

John Terry is a Chelsea great,up there with Peter Osgood and Bobby Tambling.

Sorry about your wife,I hope she didnt suffer although I know its a forlorn hope.

Agree JT Chelsea great but the other two mentioned were also Gentleman, cheers re my wife she put up a long hard fight. A tribute to her was put in a football hooligan book by Martin king well know Chelsea lad and Cas Pennant one of West Ham's main ICF faces. Don't know that she'd of approved being deeply religious

Bit surprised at you there Wildman, that incident on the train shouldn't have happened. That was overt and indefensible. People are entitled to believe what they want but I don't like the idea of stopping a man trying to get home of an evening.

It was absolutely minor yet it was treated as if some huge act of violence was committed.

This occurred because of this inverted racism now prevailing,blacks have been elevated to some protected species they are above criticism and if someone looks sideways at one he is going to be crucified.

Trevor Phillips realises it now,a bit late though.

In no way do I defend what happened that night, I have been told the only reason it was filmed was the Chelsea lads had thrown to white PSG fans off the train. It was strange behaviour especially from the Northern Irish lad given his work for human rights. To many beers, mob culture etc

As I've said. I don't think it should happen but I think the guy diffused the situation by desisting from trying to get on. He just seemed bemused by it all. I take your point on the humour of football fans but I just can't have it, really.

When you consider the violence associated with some supporters this was so minor it should hardly have been mentioned.

I was disappointed at the kowtowing of Chelsea and Mourinho,they really got frightened when the mob went in pursuit of their quarry.

Interesting programme re Trevor Phillips, my mate Ozy has often accused me of being a racist which I'm not, if your a decent fella I couldn't give a sh!t what colour or religion you are but if anything was to make me racist it would be the way all governments seem to pander to the minorites. What happened due to racial sensitivity's in the north of England was truly dreadful

Football fans for the media are easy prey as over the years football violence has always been a predominately white crime

It is the way things have gone today. With everything going so PC, you gain some things and lose others. Black humour being a casualty but the train incident didn't sit right with me.

I thought the PSG response not letting the cut out John terry on the train was quite funny and took the power out of the original occurence.

I'd imagine most of those Chelsea guys on the train weren't racist, but were swept away with crowd and a few idiots took it too far. For me, there are no bad words, only bad intentions. You see black and white people who are friends slag each other all of the time with racial connotations, but there is no trouble as they understand the spirit in which it was meant. Unfortunately that guy in the train didn't know those Chelsea guys from adam or what might have happened had he stepped on......so he didn't.

Totally agree neill d

Right lads that's me done night all

defending Chelsea supporters singing about how they're racist while pushing a man of another race of a train back onto the platform - but heaven forbid you say he is racist

In the world of the forums hothead everything is racist.

Racist racist is his mantra,in his crazy world words are worse than acts of violence.
He has picked up on the way to suppress certain views is scream racism,don't engage.

He has joined the other two self righteous racism shouters,Ozymandius and Rocketfingers.

In the world of the forums hothead everything is racist. yawn another silly statement with no basis or anything to back it up


they where singing "we're racist and we're proud" - of course they're not racist then, it's just me jumping to conclusions

there is no defence for those fools on that train actions, yes it was only a very small minority of Chelsea fans but anybody trying to defend them should have a good long look at themselves in the mirror

The fool on the train is a career racist bigot who was part of a sectarian killing machine in the ruc,he also is a lifelong supporter of rangers,linfield and rangers....case closed...

The we are racist we are proud chant is both parody and support for their captain John Terry,it should not be taken literally.

Its obvious Premier works for the government,member of the thought police,being offended on a regular basis still at least he has a decent pension.

Agree with Richters about that gentleman,i knew he was a fraud when he worked in the human rights industry.

Its obvious Premier works for the government

have a day off Spencer Reid ffs, some day one of your wild guesses may actually prove to be correct

"we're racist,, we're racist and that's the way we like it, we like it, we like it"

A parody apparently, not to be taken literally.  Sung by Chelsea skinheads pushing an innocent Black man off a train.

Nothing to see here.  Move on.  Political correctness gone wrong. Pfftt...

Your description of the events is typical of your posts,wildly inaccurate and biased.

Fact 1.  That was the song being sung

Fact 2.  The men had little hair and supported Chelsea.  Or chose to sing Chelsea songs.  Where their identities have been established, it has been confirmed that they were Chelsea fans.

Fact 3.  The man who was stopped from boarding the train (as opposed to pushed off) was black. He was not wearing any football colours

Fact 4.  the carriage was fairly full, but plenty of room for 1 more.

Fact 5.  Alleged ejection of 2 PG fans prior to black man has not been captured on video as far as I am aware.

Can you walk me through each Fact above and point out which ones are inaccurate?  Not that facts have ever been your forte, but lets see what you come up with!

Fact 3 should read 'violently stopped'.

" sung by Chelsea skinheads "

That's the original statement,this is now changed to " the men had litte hair and supported Chelsea "

There is a hell of a difference between those two statements notwithstanding the fact that even the second statement is inaccurate.

The black man is stopped entering the carriage,to me that's wrong and boorish,they are after all in his country but hey had previously stopped two whites boarding the train.
The point is he wasn't stopped because he was black,he was stopped because they ( wrongly ) deemed it a Chelsea carriage.

Ozymandius has form in this record,present parody as fact ignore a word here.
His most infamous one was in a discussion on a video of a young white English girl being abused by Muslims marching in Luton,he quoted her saying
          " this is my town "
The usual diatribe about not being inclusive,she was a racist,doesn't understand Islam.
But when we checked the video what she said was
           " this is my town too "

the men had litte hair and supported Chelsea "  Why is this innacurate?  Where their identities have been established, it has been confirmed that they were Chelsea fans.

they had previously stopped two whites boarding the train.  As far as i know this has not been corroborated by footage, therfore cannot be considered a fact.  It is also alleged that these two men were stopped because of their footballing colours.  The black man was not wearing football colours.

When you add in the accompanying song, you would have to be blind not to see what was going on.

We know they all supported Chelsea but in your climbdown you went from skinhead to men with little hair but this too was inaccurate,they were rather hirsute gentlemen.

They had deemed it a Chelsea carriage and full.they weren't allowing anyone else in,the fact the video picks up on a black mam being prevented boarding is nothing to do with him being black.

Norma champion of the underdog ,and sure why wouldn't he ..He's one himself ....Unloved by anyone , Mammy gone ,welfare cutting back on meals on wheels ..Surely this man has every right to feel hard done by , oh and UTD not even in Europe ....

Get into bed ya eejit ya.....

Time to changethe tablets Pikey ,you're not sure WHO you are AGAIN....

Ring leader hadn't got a hair on his head.  His possy heavily receeding, sort cropped hair.  How you get hirsuite from I will never know

I see they are actually in court today...funny thing is they have all seem to have made an effort to grow their hair since the incident.  With varying results! Looking much more respectable for court!

Missed your vocation I see Norma...