Nice way of hooking a few students on the beer for the week, certainly. I've seen others mention here that they are at saturation point in Ireland & the UK. If the number of likes they have on FB is reflective of every one of those people having an online account, than whatever fears Reb has are well-grounded.

There might be a sportsman/ role model issue with Ruby if it were any other sport. Racing/betting are so intrinsically linked that his gallery doesn't care, and we all know the man himself doesn't.

I remember him being downright rude to Nick luck on the morning line about 5 years ago, worst case I' seen of its kind. I don't watch that show but I gather he has been in similar form there, recently.

trying to break into flat racing in Ireland is a mugs game, maybe even for someone with Ruby's profile, plenty will have a wry smile to themselves if it goes tits up, including myself probably, for all he's the best there will ever be.

I say it is impossible because if it were possible then Willie Mullins would be doing it.

Also, Ruby would be underestimating the psychological effect of having to build up from the middle of the pack to where the top lads are having been at the top of his original career basically the whole way through.

How many lads have two great careers?

That is before even getting to the personality issues.

I don't think a career in broadcasting would be sufficient to satisfy Ruby's ego,might earn 150 k per year. A broadcasting career is obviously much more sought after in Football where they can earn 50/60 k per week with Sky.

I am not sure about the brilliance of his analysis either if the rumours about Ted jnr are accurate.

What are the rumours lads or are they that bad that even a vague outline would lead to trouble?

Kavvie , can be done with a bit of vigilance and an educated guess re market moves . In running would be the last resort for me . Occasionally too you can lay at less than you back it , but would be trickier in circumstances associated with the PP offer as they will tighten down their prices on "offer" races .

Whatever way you look at it , its a freebie and only a greedy person would be unlikely to benefit from the offer and subsequent activity .

Checked it out on RP site the offer , and it appears to be in the shops as well as on line , so maybe its worth a bit of travel .

What happens if Un De sceaux does not run ?  Ante post presumably would be quids in .

Take out U,D.S. it must be one of the poorest Arkles in years,.. only a fall can stop U.d.S.

What happens with ante post bets with pp if Douvan or UDS dont run? Is it just tough luck if you lose? Assuming thats the case you're as well off to wait for the overnights

Money back as a free bet is a con. Your money is gone and you have to back a even money winner to get it back.

I think laddies are giving daily specials on Cheltenham [for 15mins only] today between 2.10 and 2.25  Silviniaco Conti  6/1 for the gold cup

That pretty much sums up the offer Paulie,I rather have it then not, ..The ladbrokes offer is for e25 only, if you know the ladbrokes staff you can asked them what time the offer is;they can found out on the Monitor.

I was in a shop earlier striking a golf bet, and to be fair when they were plugging the offer from the voice over, he did mention very clearly and definitively that it was a free bet concession.

Think you can , sendin . That is provided they will lay you .  If you want 50 on a 20/1 shot I will nearly guarantee you will be offered most of it at SP .  The offer extends for 7 days though , so anyone "travelling around "shops would be advised to make their stakes as small as practical in case the free bet option comes up .  Most shops for instance would lay you a tenner at 20/1 whereas 50 would require reference and inevitable restructuring of the bet .

Nearer the day might be the best option for reasons already posted by several .

callit , looks like you are in a good place re getting on , wouldn't work that way up here . Depends largely on staff here , most are clued in , possibly because they came from takeover of local bookie where they were circumspect re laying .

We can only play the cards the way we are dealt them !

Most of their offers are only to E25 though,if you ran like feck you might get another E25 on or a heart attack.

the two pp shops in ennis and the one in shannon are good for taking a bet.the managers in both ennis shops are very sound and friendly.they are high turnover shops though and prob have free rein to take bigger bets than smaller shops id say.its frustrating when you want a lumpy bet and try on line only to get it cut to near nothing.go into one of the shops 5 min later and get on without a problem.i suppose pp is a successful business so they must know what they are doing.?

i try to disguise my writing clown!!