thurles

This has all the hallmarks of a "whichever one you back the other will win" scenario. Got to be a watching brief.

The track is currently raceable and the going is soft, soft to heavy in places.

FORGET IT LADS.....Fckin freezing, blowing a gale here and rain coming in sideways...more of the same next two days !

OFF imho.

that's a fair shout slickster..but im with don tbh, just think hes better this season his jumping especially..

Champagne Fever is the one to be with here. Will prefer the conditions and I'd say Elliot will have a real eye to Cheltenham with the Don whereas Mullins might be thinking it is time to start mnopping up what you can with Fever. He's the more likely to be spot-on.

we'll see tomorrow neill, ive been disappointed with fever ..but he has a touch of class and you can never right off those horses

I think hios run in the Clonmel Oil bodes well in terms of trip and ground. Good luck anyway Tony. If there's a star in it it is the Don but Fever is very good when he gets things his way.

yes be interesting who makes it..

Disappointed with Fever?  He traveled like the best horse in the race in the king George but as predicted didnt stay.  Ruby never used his jumping in the race as he was trying to save him and kept taking a pull.  He is a better horse than the Don IMO but tomorrows race is a no bet race.

The Don is a big soft giraffe who has no chance in Cheltenham

Poor card imo

Champagne should be given his head in the Champion Chase. If Walsh could get him to beat MTOY in a Supreme. He could Beat Sire De Grugy in a Champion Chase.

FFS Snap get a grip , a poor card me arse ,excuse the profanity ..Shows what you know this is a fine card with top horses top trainers top jockeys ..A very good card for this time of year and shows the progress the track is making attracting such high class horses in that g2 ...

Snap why not give a brief résumé of the Thurles card,in the unlikely event of you getting every race wrong you won't hear one word of complaint from me.

Poor PUNTING card wonks! Get a grip!

No prob wildman, will do a race by race run down

2 odds on shots from Willies ,no doubt your MONSTER nap will be one of them ,rest of the card has the possibilites of at least 2 with chances of winning , good racing and a good betting card if you exclude the 2 odds on , so how you can say its a poor card is beyond me...

I will give a race by race guide for the mugs here

Race 1:Baily cloud would have gone close last Sunday but with David Casey on board its a no go for me.  Welds horse ran nice race in Punchestown on first run over hurdles.  No bet
Race 2:Milsean wins
Race 3: Bottom two horses are the two to focus on.  Seamas Mor is not badly handicapped but he has a significant burden on board however but at the odds i will side with him. Tyner horses are apparently under a cloud.
Race 4:No bet.  if gun to head i go for fever
race 5:Fav will win
Race 6: Milan Breeze for me. A few decent runs in beginners chases and was given a sharpener last time in Naas.
Race 7:Mullins horse the class of the race and should win.

Too lazy to give a proper write up but the two for me are Seamas Mor 14/1 and Milan Breeze 16/1.
That is all!

I said i'd post this article from nick mordin re champagne fever. Not sure I agree but it's definitely food for thought.

Nick Mordin believes Champagne Fever should be given another chance to prove his stamina for three miles

SOME interesting statistical trends have developed in the King George. The strongest is that the last 30 winners all won at least half their previous completed starts.

However there is another, more recent trend that is a little more troubling. This is the fact that since the inauguration of the Betfair Chase, nine out of 10 King George winners were placed in the big Haydock contest a few weeks earlier, with seven of them winning.

My belief is that a Grade 1 race should offer a unique challenge and that it is devalued if it’s essentially a re-run of an earlier contest.

In any event Silviniaco Conti (41) qualified on both the big statistics this year. He duly went on to add the King George to his recent Betfair Chase win, taking the Kempton race for the second year running.

Normally the King George is run at a furious pace. This year the gallop was simply solid and Silviniaco Conti was pretty much allowed an uncontested lead.

He reached the third last 0.73 of a second later than they did in the Feltham Novices’ Chase on the same card. As a result he had plenty left in the tank turning in and was able to kick for home hard from three out, getting from there to the finish in just 37.15 seconds.

That’s 2.9 seconds faster than he managed last year and 5.1 seconds faster than the 2012 renewal when I adjust for the different going.

Silviniaco Conti remains simply a very decent chaser. There are half a dozen or more as good or better than him on my ratings. He’s always going to be tough to beat on a relatively flat track. He seems less good on tracks with steep gradients, so I’ll be looking elsewhere for this season’s Cheltenham Gold Cup winner.

The relatively fast ground and lack of a scorching gallop enabled Dynaste (40) to last home. He was able to use his speed to pick up nicely in the closing stages.

I still see Dynaste as a doubtful stayer. He managed to win in novice company over three miles, but they tend to go a slower early pace in novice races.

In non-novice race he’s placed five times but still ended up losing eight from eight in non-novice over three miles at Grade 1 or 2 level.

Another doubtful stayer, Al Ferof (38) kept on well enough to be third. Again, I think the fast ground and lack of a testing pace were a big help to him.

The fact remains that Al Ferof’s form figures over less than 2m 5f outside point-to-points read: 3112F11111343111. Over 2m 5f+ they read: 33253.

You could try to argue that Al Ferof stays three miles on the basis of his point to point win. After all he beat a subsequent Grade 1 winner, Minella Class, into second that day.

The problem with that logic is that the race Al Ferof won was a slowly run maiden point-to-point. The time was actually 13 seconds slower than the fastest race which was won by a horse that’s never earned a Racing Post rating bigger than 92 (i.e. selling class).

It’s worth noting that the first three home were bred in France. The King George is rapidly becoming the race the French-breds win while the Cheltenham Gold Cup tends to go to Irish-breds.

15 of the last 28 renewals of the King George, including all the last nine, have gone to French-breds. 15 of the last 18 Gold Cups have gone to Irish-breds and only three to French-breds.

The first Irish-bred horse home in the King George was fourth placed Champagne Fever (38). My impression is that he was beaten for lack of pace rather than stamina in the closing stages. The French-breds just had too much finishing speed for him due to the relatively fast ground and lack of an all-out early gallop.

For most of the race Champagne Fever moved eye-catchingly well. He was caught flat-footed when the winner kicked for home but still held second place right up to the last.

It’s worth bearing in mind that all five of Champagne Fever’s pattern wins have come on soft or heavy ground or on a track with a very steep uphill finish. I think he lacks the finishing speed needed to win at the top level when the ground is fast and the track is flat.

It’s easy to remember all those times Champagne Fever went off too fast in the lead and stopped. But on his seasonal debut at Clonmel a change in tactics were successfully tried.

At Clonmel Champagne Fever was restrained behind the leaders when stepped up to two and a half miles. There was one fence where he briefly jumped himself into the lead (the fifth) and he did have to be kept on a tight rein.

He seemed happy enough being restrained. In fact it looked to me that a couple of the jockeys on his rivals kept trying to force him to go on by slowing things down and opening up gaps to make him see too much daylight. This didn’t affect him. He was allowed to bowl along after halfway and had his rivals off the bit turning in. His rider was able to take a look back twice, once on the home turn, the other time after the last, and he saw he was never in trouble. He came home full of running to earn the biggest speed rating I’ve ever given him (42).

Like Al Ferof, Champagne Fever won a point-to-point, unlike Al Ferof, his win was in the fastest race of the day. Champagne Fever has now won three of the four times that he’s run two and a half miles plus over fences and lost all four times he’s run shorter distances.

It’s quite possible I’m wrong and that he doesn’t stay three miles well enough to win a Grade 1. I’d like to see him given another shot at the distance first in the Hennessy at Leopardstown in February. The going is invariably soft of heavy for that race, so it will be a fairer test for him – one that I’m betting he will pass. After all, he’s a tall, long striding sort who shows a bit of knee action. He has every right to be a bit one-paced and get done for speed in a race like this year’s King George.

Fifth placed Cue Card (37) was always prominent until getting outrun in the closing stages. He was off for nearly a year with a stress before this season with a stress fracture to the hip. He improved from a rating of 34 on his first run back to earn a rating of 38 from me last time in the Betfair Chase. But that was six points lower than he earned in the same race last year. He regressed a bit here if my ratings are any guide.

It’s a good principle to ignore a horse’s previous form when they come back from a serious injury and treat them as an entirely new horse. On that basis Cue Card looks suspect. He’s run unplaced in all three of his comeback runs. I want to see some signs of a revival before betting that he’ll bounce back to form.

Lashing rain and blowing a gale at the moment,strong winds predicted tomorrow so meeting is in some doubt.

Would be a great pity if we lost this meeting as its some card.

Not so sure myself and would be doubtful though usually the slower Irish pace might help, the temptation if he got away it would be the Gold Cup and no way,Willie was fairly emphatic in saying he didn,t get the KG trip to entertain the hennessey i,d imagine.
Liked Betterthanalrights course win last time,maybe slightly flattered by mistakes by the placed horses in the straight but was still going to be a comfortable winner. Same positive ride tomorrow over 2f less and hard not to see him being thereabouts. GL.

CRACKING MIDWEEK CARD

BAILY CLOUD  NB

MONTYS MEADOW  EW HURDLES FORM IS DECENT

KNOCKALONG SAVER SEAMUS MOR

TEXAS JACK

JENNIES JEWEL  EW

EMPIRE OF DIRT   NAP

SOLE WITNESS /LOOKOUTNOW     EWAYS


HOPE ITS ON  WILD UP HERE

1.05- Tricky opener, will be laying Battle Hymn

1.35- Look no further than Milsean

2.10- Shamiran at 7/1 is the play here

2.45- Champagne Fever the play at 5/4, should be odds on imo

3.15- Vroom Vroom Mag is cert, and value at 1/2

3.45- Empire of Dirt is a huge lay

4.15- Anything of 4/6 or upwards about Prince de Beauchene is a steal, only has to be steered around

SNAP GOOD LUCK IMO EMPIRE OF DIRT BAR FALL IS CERT  HIS 4TH BEHIND GILGAMBOA FTO AND COUPLE NICE schools  SINCE

BUT ALL ABOUT OPINIONS

Norn if that beast wins I'll eat my hat, he won't ever get a better opportunity than he did in Down Royal last time

Re Bally Cloud.....Touch of Land is now 0-14 at the distance and 0-13 on heavy going.body of evidence starting to build up here. Also Mouse Morris in maiden hurdles......awful record

More worrying for me would be Baily Clouds terrible run last time he was in Thurles.

He is also out of a Roselier mare so probably wants further.

im looking forward to seeing don and fever..i think the king George showed fever is not a 3m horse..if you carnt get it at Kempton then you wont get it anywere..dons jumping is far better this season..and whoever makes it , will have the advange..and I fancy don for today.11/10 atm.

ive backed welds in the first @5/1 is a fair price, just hope hes close to the pace.

JEEZ ITS FECN WILD UP HERE


SNAP WENT THRU RACE AGAIN EMPIRE OF DIRT  IMO  IS AS YOU SAY IT MOTHER OF ALL NAPS

  DOWN ROYAL RACES ARE LOT MORE COMPETITIVE THAT THEY LOOK AND CANT SEE IT LOSING BAR A FALL  JEEZ WWAS EVEN 4 LTHS BEHIND FAUGHEEN OVER HURDLES HAS BEST FORM BY MILE IMO 

SO TIME WILL TELL  GOOD LUCK WISH HAD TOOK 7/2 LAST NIGHT

Betterthanalright,to make all............... worried about the trip for EOD.

2 I like today:

Golden Plan 2.10 5/1
Good form when beating Charles Byrnes hotpot @ Limerick couple of runs ago. 2 decent 4ths since when he made a couple of poor jumping mistakes and have to forgive latest run @ Naas which was probably too competitive for him.

Annie Oakley 3.15 33/1
Often get a surprise in these mares chases and if there is one, it could be this mare. Her 4 runs over fences have all been decent, her latest one @ limerick possibly the most disappointing. Good chance of a place anyway.

Good luck lads, great card.

Hell Cat Maggie 25/1 with boyles is not a bad e/way bet,he hasn,t had the best of luck of late,    3.15thurles

Exchange Traded And Available

Betfair Starting Price


Price

To back

To lay

Traded

Backers' Stake

Layers' Liability


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1.02   £1,095   
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1.24   £80   
1.25   £60   
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1.27   £351   
1.28  £1 £17   
1.29   £117   
1.3   £113   
1.31   £135   
1.32   £272   
1.33   £694   
1.34   £758   
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1.36   £47   
1.37  £164 £2,191   
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1.39   £8   
1.4   £1,245   
1.41   £16   
1.42   £2,328   
1.43   £80   
1.44   £15   
1.46   £17   
1.47   £13   
1.48   £20   
1.49   £5   
1.5   £287   
1.51   £138   
1.52   £484   
1.55   £604   
1.56   £41   
1.58   £14   
1.59   £50   
1.6   £978   
1.61   £2   
1.62   £10   
1.63   £6   
1.64   £7   
1.65   £14   
1.66   £53   
1.67   £7   
1.68   £13   
1.69   £20   
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1.71   £42   
1.72   £44   
1.73   £3   
1.74   £19   
1.75   £42   
1.76   £124   
1.83  £7   
1.9   £4   
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2.04  £1   
2.06  £1   
2.12   £4   
2.24   £105   
2.3  £3 £39   
2.34   £76   
2.36   £50   
2.42  £1   
2.44   £109   
2.46  £2   
2.5   £100   
2.52   £21   
2.54   £90   
2.76   £80   
2.84   £80   
2.98   £7   
3   £6   
3.05   £160   
3.15  £4   
3.2   £6   
3.25  £1 £30   
3.3   £4   
3.35  £3 £50   
3.4  £0   
3.5   £10   
3.55  £1 £3   
3.6   £3   
3.65   £58   
3.75   £10   
3.8  £1   
3.9   £4   
4   £158   
4.2   £34   
4.3   £12   
4.4   £16   
4.5   £40   
4.7   £5   
5   £35   
5.1   £5   
5.4   £6   
5.6   £49   
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6.2   £4   
6.4   £25   
6.6   £5   
7   £16   
7.4   £28   
7.6   £10   
8.2   £8   
8.4   £1   
8.8  £0 £1   
9   £0   
9.2   £5   
9.6   £0   
10   £104   
11   £15   
11.5   £3   
12   £6   
12.5   £24   
13   £49   
14   £9   
15   £13   
15.5   £6   
16   £4   
16.5   £16   
17   £28   
17.5  £0   
18   £61   
18.5   £4   
19  £0 £27   
19.5   £9   
20   £115   
21   £59   
22   £41   
23   £11   
24   £10   
25   £32   
26   £34   
27   £4   
28   £5   
29   £8   
30   £10   
32   £3   
34   £11   
36   £64   
38   £32   
40   £26   
42   £17   
44   £52   
46   £44   
48   £34   
50   £53   
55   £135   
60   £82   
65   £34   
70   £28   
75   £45   
80   £20   
85   £24   
90   £3   
95   £14   
100   £17   
110   £7   
120   £20   
130   £18   
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150   £28   
160   £23   
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190   £82   
200   £79   
210   £44   
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760  £0   
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Exchange Traded And Available

Betfair Starting Price


Price

To back

To lay

Traded

Backers' Stake

Layers' Liability


1.01   £14,501   
1.02   £1,095   
1.03   £2,106   
1.04   £1,913   
1.05   £100   
1.06   £84   
1.07   £200   
1.08   £92   
1.09  £2   
1.1   £264   
1.11   £655   
1.12   £421   
1.13   £35   
1.15   £163   
1.18   £35   
1.2   £800   
1.21   £70   
1.22   £7   
1.23   £658   
1.24   £80   
1.25   £60   
1.26   £2,135   
1.27   £351   
1.28  £1 £17   
1.29   £117   
1.3   £113   
1.31   £135   
1.32   £272   
1.33   £694   
1.34   £758   
1.35  £2 £64   
1.36   £47   
1.37  £164 £2,191   
1.38   £454   
1.39   £8   
1.4   £1,245   
1.41   £16   
1.42   £2,328   
1.43   £80   
1.44   £15   
1.46   £17   
1.47   £13   
1.48   £20   
1.49   £5   
1.5   £287   
1.51   £138   
1.52   £484   
1.55   £604   
1.56   £41   
1.58   £14   
1.59   £50   
1.6   £978   
1.61   £2   
1.62   £10   
1.63   £6   
1.64   £7   
1.65   £14   
1.66   £53   
1.67   £7   
1.68   £13   
1.69   £20   
1.7   £423   
1.71   £42   
1.72   £44   
1.73   £3   
1.74   £19   
1.75   £42   
1.76   £124   
1.83  £7   
1.9   £4   
2  £9 £48   
2.04  £1   
2.06  £1   
2.12   £4   
2.24   £105   
2.3  £3 £39   
2.34   £76   
2.36   £50   
2.42  £1   
2.44   £109   
2.46  £2   
2.5   £100   
2.52   £21   
2.54   £90   
2.76   £80   
2.84   £80   
2.98   £7   
3   £6   
3.05   £160   
3.15  £4   
3.2   £6   
3.25  £1 £30   
3.3   £4   
3.35  £3 £50   
3.4  £0   
3.5   £10   
3.55  £1 £3   
3.6   £3   
3.65   £58   
3.75   £10   
3.8  £1   
3.9   £4   
4   £158   
4.2   £34   
4.3   £12   
4.4   £16   
4.5   £40   
4.7   £5   
5   £35   
5.1   £5   
5.4   £6   
5.6   £49   
5.7   £51   
6.2   £4   
6.4   £25   
6.6   £5   
7   £16   
7.4   £28   
7.6   £10   
8.2   £8   
8.4   £1   
8.8  £0 £1   
9   £0   
9.2   £5   
9.6   £0   
10   £104   
11   £15   
11.5   £3   
12   £6   
12.5   £24   
13   £49   
14   £9   
15   £13   
15.5   £6   
16   £4   
16.5   £16   
17   £28   
17.5  £0   
18   £61   
18.5   £4   
19  £0 £27   
19.5   £9   
20   £115   
21   £59   
22   £41   
23   £11   
24   £10   
25   £32   
26   £34   
27   £4   
28   £5   
29   £8   
30   £10   
32   £3   
34   £11   
36   £64   
38   £32   
40   £26   
42   £17   
44   £52   
46   £44   
48   £34   
50   £53   
55   £135   
60   £82   
65   £34   
70   £28   
75   £45   
80   £20   
85   £24   
90   £3   
95   £14   
100   £17   
110   £7   
120   £20   
130   £18   
140   £57   
150   £28   
160   £23   
163.68    £51 £5,079
170   £54   
180   £77   
190   £82   
200   £79   
210   £44   
220   £110   
230   £117   
240   £87   
250   £38   
260   £16   
270   £11   
280   £14   
290   £7   
300   £1   
310   £0   
320   £17   
370  £0   
400   £4   
440  £0 £7   
500   £48   
650  £0   
760  £0   
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haley is looking very fetching.are they false eye lashes?is gazza trying to make a move?

Fine crowd going by the tv.Must be at least 50 people there.

looks a few lads waiting for opening time .

is wildman the geezer with the wellies,the sports jacket and the cap?

Thought Champagne had a hard enough run at Kempton coupled with I think Don Coss is an improved horse this year means I'll be backing Don Coss.

THINK TEXAS JACK OVERPRICED 9/1 RACE COULD WELL BE RUN SUIT THIS HORSE THAT VERY RARELY GETS CREDIT

rich ricci in thurles?ffs he's slumming it!

sad for that to happen..if champagne would of stood up I think the winner would of got to him!

HARD TOO SAY  DEFF LOOKED  GOOD RACE 



TEXAS JAC schooled FOR NTO

STRANGE RUBY LAY THERE AS  COULD BEEN LOT WORSE IF THAT HORSE KEPT  ROLLING

don would have won anyway

great race, to see CF get up

Well done NA with Golden Plan

WELL SAID OZ,.. RYANAIR FOR BOTH I WOULD SAY.

Champagne should go to the Champion Chase for me, use him.

That was the race of the season so far in Ireland for me, great spectacle.

yep,that was a great race.there was no prisoners taken.cooper has the smarts and i think he would have won anyway if the rube stood up.

Would go Ch Chase route with Fever also.

CC could be the correct move alright Neill, any remote chance of 3m gone after that.
WD Don backers,looked on top,nice winner Newsapproach.

tWINLIGHT running against     Sprinter Sacre on saterday,if he runs well i recon twinlight will run in the  Ch chase and C.F.WILL RUN IN THE Ryanair,

Frank your wrong!  Twinlight would be making up the numbers whereas CF would have a decent chance. CF will not run in the Ryanair you can be sure of that.

Ruby looked annoyed with himself, wonder did he go off too quick.

Bryan Cooper - I'm a fan but WTF was that ?

Imo Twinlight is a moody 2nd division horse. If he won the CC I would suggest that they should plough up Cheltenham.

is rich ricci blind?or his he trying to be the one cool dude in thurles?and maybe get off with haley

What would Vroom Vroom go for? Mares hurdle?

SNAP WONT HAVE EAT HIS HAT AFTER ALL 

only luck I have is bad..empire...

Mixed day for FOR W MULLINS,UNLUCKY TONY.

Norn if that beast wins I'll eat my hat, he won't ever get a better opportunity than he did in Down Royal last time

SNAP  YOU WERE CORRECT EVN THO EMPIRE OF DIRT MADE ONLY ONE MISTAKE

shut up norn.your a loser!

DEFF AM TODAY 

Arkle ...... Imo Twinlight is a moody 2nd division horse. If he won the CC I would suggest that they should plough up Cheltenham.......he may not win the C.C. but 2nd div he is not,  he won Paddy Power Dial-A-Bet Chase (Grade 1) (Class 1)  60K FOR THE WINNER.

normal services resumed.i did my best for ye lads.i tried to make the irish forum a mug punter free zone but once tony put this up,i knew the thread was doomed.fair play to newapproach for salvaging some dignity.it's time for people who care about the irish forum to stand up and get rid of the usual suspects and not let this riff raft bring us down.

looks like don will go to Cheltenham..im not sure he,ll get his ground?

btw tony is no.1 on the list.

Personally, I think we should ask Tony to pledge allegiance to our Republic, or banish him to the Horse Racing Forum.  Fair is fair.

i would not leave tony in charge of a wheelbarrow unless old pa was directing operations.

Thought Champagne had shot its bolt despite the brave face by Camp Mullins,Empire Of Dirt backers gutted.

Would have thought Don Coss would need easy going but its win  first time out this year @ Punchestown in October was Good to Firm so who knows.

Punch, Gordon Elliott thought he would go on any ground but better on g/to soft.shoud get his ground come Cheltenham.

Wont have to be chewing any hats norn anyway thankfully!

Tony this fellow is the real deal , will go on any ground , has grown into a proper horse ..Get your dosh ready for Cheltenham this will win no matter what race it runs in ..Freshen him up now for Cheltenham and he'll come back a monster ...

ive always liked him wr..I was gutted when he got beat last season then ran poorly,i thought he,d gone tbh..but hes come back a proper horse over fences..if he handles ground on the slow side of good..then I agree he,ll go close inwhatever race he goes in

Have to say , the turning point was the day Davy gave him a few cracks at Fairyhouse , woke him up no end ..I'd go as far as to say it made a man of him , Don that is...

I'd like to see them step him up in trip again,It looked like he didn't stay when tried over 3 miles last season but that could have been down to the horse not been right,He's in the form of his life now,No better time to have another go up in trip.

The only downside was when Ruby said that C,F. didn,t give him the same feel as he did at Kempton, yet he was upside the Don at the last.W/R the ryanair looks the one he will go for.

Frank if you look back over his last 3 wins you'll notice that he pulls out more AFTER the last , in his early days he was just running with them ..As stated Davy giving him those couple of backhanders seems to have done the trick...

The only downside was when Ruby said that C,F. didn,t give him the same feel as he did at Kempton

Well i'd hope not having been thrashed into 4th.

He is much better this season o.k. but i woundn,t go putting the family jewels on him.

Of course not Frank , glad to hear you still retain them...

AT least im not like Ozy and go around wearing them.

Aint the only one on the irish forum either.    ...p.s hear comes the backlash

Pray tell , whoever can it be...?

Frank re your earlier post on Twinlight - he did indeed win that grade 1 but he has been very inconsistent and has to have things his own way. Couldnt see him winning a CC. I assume he runs Saturday in Ascot.

yes arkle, but on his day he is no 2nd div horse, if he is on his good day he will give SS  good race, i backed him at 8.6 to win ,its unfair to expect SS to be 100% ;Twinlight wont have a better chance to beat him. THE race will give us a good insight to the C.CHASE.

frank hate to go back to the old thing again..but are you not worried about the mullins s/r outside chelts?..personally I couldn't touch a horse from the yard ..that runs anywhere bar prestbury atm..but that's just my opinion...

Agree with Scouse on this one.  Twinlight is a plodder and once again proof that Mullins doesnt bother bringing over any of his big guns!  Race fell apart at Leopardstown and he picked up the pieces.  Frank donate your money to charity at least someone will get the benefit of it.

you could be right lads,i will be wiser man come 3.10 tomorrow.

As good a days racing Thurles ever had.
As cold a days racing Thurles ever had.
As small a crowd as Thurles ever had.

The weather and the inspection must have put many off but that was still an abysmal crowd.

Pity that , such a good card as well , most would have been reluctant to travel as the weather was very unpromising and looked 90% sure to be called off , In fact I decided not to go for the above reasons..

Thought you didn't go cos the wildman didn't invite you up. You then threw a strop and stayed away...

Peter will be looking behind him now you are stalking him Boychild , pity you are not as bright as you think , Do you think the 3 World War will happen anytime soon you cretin........

"3 World War"??? Who knows wonks... If so i'm sure you'll be at the helm giving advice. God help the enemy

Bet you'd be sat **** yourself somewhere if it did happen Boychild , off with ya now and stalk someone else ,your boyfriend Ozy is out to dinner ...

Your in for it W/R when Ozy get back home after his Bottle of plonk and his Shepherd's Pie.