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There is nothing the ordinary five eighth person can do in the face of this terrorism. If someone wants to take a gun and start shooting people for whatever their cause, then the ordinary person won't stop them.
It's up to the intelligence groups to weed these people out before they commit crimes. Ultimately and unfortunately some will manage to evade detection. I hope in France these lunatics are caught and that their lives meet a horrific end - the same they inflicted upon the poor police officer. Likewise anyone that supports their actions. I don't think generalizing all Muslims with the same label is going to stop these atrocities. I would also support the freedom of speech however and I'm only suggesting this, maybe a lesson needs to be learned here. The provocation was unnecessary and in the age we live in, more sensitivity around this is required. Pouring petrol on the fire has ultimately weeded one or two lunatics out. |
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Its very refreshing to see such balanced discussion on this topic on this forum.
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SoYouThink , therein lies the evil ,the fact that if you speak your mind and say openly what you believe . then they will not condone free speech , and know only one way to do that , as in today ...Maybe its time other religions demanded they open up certain Arab counties and allow other religions the same freedom they are always demanding themselves...That would put them under pressure to REALLY show that ISLAM is a religion of peace...
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an incident like this is unlikely to happen in our country as the media is terrified of accusations of racism so no hard questions are ever asked of our muslim community leaders.
I hope little irish muslims don't become cannon fodder for these maniacs in years to come. |
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The whole idea is to populate Europe with muslims ,that has been the plan for years ..Why is nearly EVERY Muslim country at war ...It gives them a ligitimte to export their citizens ...
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The Ozymandius post of 14.59 has to be read by all here,the second line is the important one.
I have quoted it but the craven moderators keep deleting my posts. Its this fear that's created the problem,no one is allowed state the obvious. Ozymandius is the ultimate appeaser but So You Think and Reb are also at it. The European ruling elite must bear some responsibility for all this slaughter,the people of Europe have consistently opposed all this immigration and were ignored. The same elite have benefitted from their immigration policies,I hope they have to answer for their crimes. |
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The European ruling elite must bear some responsibility for all this slaughter,the people of Europe have consistently opposed all this immigration and were ignored.
The same elite have benefitted from their immigration policies,I hope they have to answer for their crimes. didn't you say before you worked over in England back in the day?? didn't the English people not want irish over there and not welcome them with open arms due to the ira etc.........?? so where would you be now and how would your life have turned out had the English government adopted your attitude? |
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You can't equate the two.
Irish went to work,the current European immigration wave come specifically not to work. |
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The English saw the Irish as terrorists
You see all Muslims as terrorists A lot of similarities I do feel immigration should be controlled better, perhaps like Australia or Canada when you only get in when you have something to offer them (a skilled workers in an industry they need) |
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Name and details released of the poor policeman shot on the side of the street yesterday that was caught on camera.. RIP
The 42-year-old Ahmed Merabet was shot at point-blank range despite apparently pleading for mercy, and his death was tragically caught on camera. Merabet, a Muslim by faith, was serving as a patrolman in the 11th arrondissement, which is the district where Charlie Hebdo’s office is located in Paris |
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so you think, the mag takes the piss out of all religions and all politicians?..we cannot stop free speech just to keep the MUSLEM FANATICS from being upset?..ofcourse not all muslems are fanatics or bad people,..but the time has now come imo..to make muslims take a vow of loyalty to their country of birth or residence?..if they put there religion first then they must be deported to a Islamic country...the west must start to operate on this cancer..its not the answer but its a start..
premier,..the british never saw the irish as terrorists?, there has always been a distinction between the ira and irish people..at least that is how ive always seen it and my city and thousands of irish who have lived here..or all over?..as a matter of fact..i cannot ever remember a irishman get any kind of abuse in my life..so imo it diproves your view? |
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no it doesn't as I know as a matter of fact it happened as it happened to family members of mine living over there
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Correct tony57.
No useful purpose is served by posters like premier fantasy producing absurd sweeping overgeneralisations like ' the English saw the Irish as terrorists'. For heaven's sake if we're going to debate any issue let's try to make our statements in a measured ,qualified way. |
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The English (as a group) are the soundest I've come across. Anyone who has driven or drank in a bar in France would probably agree I'd say.
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I suppose there is no purpose for me on here, I mean between you lot Wildman is getting noshed off daily and his bumhole well and truly rimmed
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Did you hear? he's starting a new political party.
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Plenty of purpose for Premier Fantasy here.
You show us your intolerant liberal views You show us your bad temper You show us how humourless you are. You show us your juvenile vulgarity,your last post a prime example. You are a greyhound version of the equally intolerant and ribald Ozymandius. |
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intolerant liberal views
![]() nope I am just not a racist like you, simple as |
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you still want to kill all the immigrants coming on ships then??
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Your post of 14.59 is a classic and tells plenty about you.
Anyone that doesn't go along with your ride on views has to have something wrong with them. Your inability to argue with logic leaves you with no alternative than to call names and ascribe some mental illness to your foes. |
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being racist ain't an illness old chap but if it gives you some comfort you keep telling yourself that
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Its your screaming Islamophobic or homophobic on other discussions when you can't argue your points is the illness part.
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Islamaphobic, nope I am saying you are a fully blown racist, it is clear from your posts and any impartial person on here can see that, you also clearly don't like gays, no problem with that as they are not my cup of tea either but I can just leave them to it.
It's alright, I understand you're getting on and are stuck in 1960, I accept that |
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premier, im not saying ITS NEVER HAPPENED?im just saying its never been around me..and ive worked all over known plenty of other people over Britain, irish included..its never even been a topic if im honest...I admit it may have been a topic after the pub bombings..and after the 2 soldiers who drove into the funeral...but its not a issue to say..the brits think all the irish are at it?.....come on?
and Wildman is wrong to say we should sink the ships....but we should send them straight back once the people have received medical help and food...tow the boat back..and send a message. |
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I suppose it makes you feel superior calling people racist but your brand of self loathing is not enlightened its craven.
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Nope why would I feel superior over somebody I have never met and has no effect on my life?? Self loathing, don't think so, I am very happy with where I am in life at the moment.
Just stating things as inserted them here and I am not the only one either. Of course I didn't mean all English Tony, badly phrased and I don't mean nowadays either, in the past and yes you're spot on about the times as that's when they had the problems |
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*stating things as I see them*
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You would be a great help in a time of war,you would deem killing the enemy racist.
You would end up a conscientious objector along with the king of the appeasers Ozymandius. |
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You called, General Melchett?
No Dogs, no Irish...that never happened? Really? |
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to make muslims take a vow of loyalty to their country of birth or residence?..if they put there religion first then they must be deported to a Islamic country
Brilliant, Tony. I knew if we got enough great minds focused on this problem, a solution would be readily to hand. |
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A lot better than your solution,defend them at all costs,celebrate the jihadists and demand their release from jail.
Nigel Farage is right they are a fifth column waiting to strike. |
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whats wrong with what I said oz,..we now live in times where the press are to scared to offend islam in case what happened in paris happens to them?..we have home grown (born and bred here)muslims spouting they went the black flag over downing st? also 7 7 was also home grown,all over Europe people are starting to see the wood from the trees, the germans are now having rallies demanding restrictions on islam?..you might not care about your part of the Ireland oz..but I LOVE my country,i fought for it, it has done many bad things in history ...but it has also given me and millions like me a life..freedom safety,and democracy!!if people born here or our lucky enough to live here or other countries the same in Europe don't like our way of life......THEN FUUCK OFF back to a Islamic country where ..OZ if you came out you would be flogged in the streets..and if you stole ..you would lose your hand,..and if you were a woman who was raped ..YOU would be stoned to death cos it was YOUR FAULT you were raped...you want to live there oz...they go...
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I spent years living in the wolds largest Muslim country, Tony. I had no issues whatever and saw none of what you describe.
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Indonesia?it is indeed a Islamic country but it is not iran, Iraq, Pakistan,somalia, the gulf states...., I have no doubt you never come out the closet?..although there are many gay men in muslim countries its just the hypocrisy is amazing..
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Ah, so now you have learned the important lesson of differentiation...it is not all 'Islamic countries' that you refer to after all.
I have never lived in the other countries, have you? I do have Iranian and Pakistani friends and they are the wildest mofo's I know, but then then they are monied and living the West. |
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"Ah, so now you have learned the important lesson of differentiation...it is not all 'Islamic countries' that you refer to after all."
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I never have said its all, look at turkey?they have a big guy community and walk the streets of Istanbul holding hands..its a Islamic country but also circular?i mean the sharia countrys..although you can have sharia in turkey if you want?
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anyway you know excactly what I mean...but ask your Pakistani friends what would happen to them if they came out to there familys..I bet some would say ..hounour killing?
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Tony stop, stick to tipping favs mate, bar Iran none of the countries you just listed have sharia law
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Imagine the state of UK horse racing if Tony slipped into his Border Patrol uniform and said to the likes of Sheihk Mo and Qatar Racing ad said 'No, you cant come in unless you swear loyalty to this country, we are going to have to deport you'
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