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The Disqualification Of Sadlers Risk
The Disqualification Of Sadlers Risk
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Plkey Paulie , lambasting jockeys again I see , yet not a whimper from him when Dodgy Davy rides a stinker , draw your own conclusions...
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Ozy no doubt you and Toby have seen Pikey Paulies comments re mr Lynch , as the saying goes silence is golden in this case from the both of ye ...
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How the fukk can they be weighed out in kilograms.....what a load of cobblers....
This is no different from somebody going into a shop and buying an item for 2 euro......they promptly hand in a 20 euro note....and the shopkeeper hands them back 8 euro.....and the customer looks at the money in his hand and then walks away..... Ok the shopkeeper is at fault for issuing the wrong change....but the gormless customer is a bigger clown for not opening his mouth.... |
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The weighing out procedure is as follows.....the trainer or his representative [in this case it was Henry himself] will walk into the weighing room and take a number
cloth.....the valet will have prepared the saddle and weight cloth to something near the allotted weight...the jockey will bring saddle and stand on the electronic scales which show the weight in KG....the clerk of the scales will check the colours worn by the jockey and the number cloth the trainer is holding against his race card and then inform the jockey whether he has to add or take weight out of his saddle cloth...2lb is also allowed for the back protector so if you are allotted 11st you can show 11st.2lb something i've never been happy with tbh....once the Clerk of the scales is happy the jockey will pass the saddle to the trainer. Very rare for the Clerk of the scales to get it wrong tbf....i can't think of another instance. I find it hilarious that Kevin O'Ryan...someone who knows how to weigh out is being criticised by someone who constantly demonstrates that he knows fck all about anything. If ever the mantle of Gormless Tool was ever earned by anyone surely that person must be our Paulie.....  |
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Henry De Bromhead said that he was beside Andrew when they were weighing out. Therefore, that's 3 people that are potentially culpable.
All of the above is circumstantial though. If a horse weighs out wrong, regardless of the reason why, they should be made a NR as opposed to DQ'd if for no reason other than integrity. As Kevin Blake wrote recently, there is the potential for skullduggery if you know a horse has been weighed out wrong and cannot possibly win. To take it a step further a horse could be laid on the exchanges with a few small back bets chanced with the bookies. In the event the horse crosses the line in front there would be a small window for the backers to collect before the layers get their dough after the jockey weighs in wrong. |
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There is no doubt the horse had to be disqualified.
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The smiley face leaves you down JR.....that's more like wonkys level......
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You should try one Paulie...you wouldn't come across as quite so bitter.
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Not being in agreement with a jobsworth like yourself JR.....hardly qualifies as being bitter......
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You're obviously not familiar with the weighing out procedure Paulie.
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Based on the current rules he had to be DQ'd. I don't agree with them though.
No fair minded person who backed He'llberemembered would dispute that there should have been a Rule 4 with SR stakes refunded. They would accept the situation because its a safe guard if the shoe is ever on the other foot. |
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What decade are you living in btw Paulie.....did Metrication only happen to other people.
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Well it hasn't happened in Irish racing yet JR.....when a horse is given a penalty for winning a race.....is it done in metric?....
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When the horses saddle next gets to the weighing scales the penalty it will calculated in KG....it isn't really that difficult Paulie..millions of people have grasped the concept.
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The only reason that horses receive penalty's in pounds is to concur with the rating system btw.
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when the horse saddle next gets to the weighing scales the penalty it will calculated in KG..JR Im having difficulty grasping that particular statement.....wonder could you explain to me what language that is?....
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You seem to be having difficulty in grasping anything about this case but it doesn't seem to bother you.
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JR.....please explain what language you are using.....its alien to me.....
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Reduced to pulling somebody up on typo's....oh dear Paulie...for some strange reason i was expecting more...woeful effort..please try harder.
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Typo my hole.....the sentence makes no sense whatsoever.....now off with ya .....ya jobsworth ya....
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Don't get yourself so upset Paulie....losing an argument you never had any chance of wining certainly isn't 'alien' to you.
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Pikey Paulie , owned again I see , the word jobsworth must come up a lot in your little chats with Dodgy Davy ..I.E my jobs worth more than that lay surely Pikey Paulie...
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Wonks....stick to other threads with smileys and the Rovers ones also.....you are out of your depth where a bit of intellectual muscle is required.....
And another thing.....please stop sending me that picture of yourself with that thing in your hand.....once was more than enough to see it.....impressive and all as it is.....im not that interested.....maybe one of your dole scrounging mates might appreciate it....but I don't.... |
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Pikey Paulie , bet you have it hanging in the caravan , J.R. has you by the short and curlies mate , has you eating out of his hand ...
You coughing the gotchee money for the charity.. |
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I rang them up and sent in mine.....I said theres another 150 due....but the dole office wont be open til Monday.....they said no problem.....so theres no rush with yours.....
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Dodgy Davy give you the nod ?
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100% jockeys are weighed out in pounds...it is displayed in no of pounds for everyone to see...11 stone is 154lb....so if that
is ur weigh on the race card ur jockey needs to be showin 156lb(+2 for bp) at the scales...no metric weights in irish racing. Lynch weigh was 11-4 so show 160...but weighed out at 156 so carried 4lb light. |
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FFS Tocky!...Paulie wouldn't have known whether it was pounds, kilo's or bags of sugar.
What i'm looking forward to finding out is whether The clerk of the scales asked Andrew to take weight out....couldn't see Andrew's valet being that far out although i suppose it's possible that he [the valet] might have thought the allocated weight was indeed 11st also.....very unlikely though. |
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Bags of sugar , J.R.show him a little mercy please ... |
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Jockey presented himself at the scales at the wrong weight...clerk of scales just did nt cop it...its clerks only job...vallet has abt 50 other things to do but does send out jock at correct weight but has no responabilty other than that...its down to jock & clerk
to insure everything is in order |
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I realise he's not culpable but the Valet must have sent him out a long way off though Tocky...the initial mistake
must have been with him...and the COTS failed to cop it even though the horses allotted weight would have been written down in front off him... Ion Hamilton is a very capable clerk of the scales tbf hard to see how he made the mistake. |
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ya this is true...cos made the mistake he has put his hands up and admited this...he might be suspended...its been takin very serious
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Yet PIKEY PAULIE blames LYNCH on everything ..The man is a gobshyte of the highest order ...
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I think Andrew's only obligation was to inform the cots of his allotted weight when he arrives at the scales
although in truth not many jockeys bother as the cots just reads what's in front of him....weight...colours...race card number. |