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keen leader
28 Dec 14 01:03
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when is the last time, the winners of the two most recent Cheltenham gold cups, have clashed in a race on irish soil.

I can't recall it in the last 30 years, did it happen with lescargot and glencarrig lady perhaps in late 1972 early 1973...that looks like the only possible past candidate...maybe it has never happened before on irish soil?
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Report neill d December 28, 2014 1:54 AM GMT
Never really took to either of these (one rodenty and doesn't travel, the other just plain ordinary) and I'd be nearly sure Boston Bob is more talented than either but just way way more complicated. I'll probably Back Boston Bob again. Ruby was once again very positive on him in the paper. Road to Riches, the danger. I could see the stiff fences catching out Bobs Worth if he isn't travelling. Could see Texas Jack placing here, think there might be a little more to come from him.
Report norn iron December 28, 2014 9:43 AM GMT
JEEZ NEILLD BOTH HAVE WON MILLION£   YOUR HARD MAN TO PLEASE Wink

THINK AS KEEN LEADER STATES SURELY THIS IS AS GOOD AS CHELT GOLD CUP ONLY SILVO CONTI MISSING = AS GOOD AS WE GOING SEE  EVER ON IRISH SOIL

MY TAKE ON RACE IS FIRST LIEUTENANT IS GOOD EW VALUE AS ALWAYS RUNS WELL AT LEOP AT XMAS

REV4CAST WITH THE rodenty  BOBS WORTH  WHO WILL IF NICKY HAS HIM FULLY FIT WILL BE HARD BEAT
Report SoYouThink December 28, 2014 10:01 AM GMT
Fair enough there's the 2 star attractions in the reigning champ and a former champ but there's so many of these with doubts about them, especially on heavy ground. I can't see why people should look past Bob's Worth. He looks by far the one with the least amount of holes in him and if we could believe Henderson that's he's back to his best, then's he's a great price.

Boston Bob, First Lieutenant, Road to Riches, Lord Windermere. They all are a worry on really heavy ground.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan December 28, 2014 10:48 AM GMT
Up For Review ?
Report callitasucit December 28, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
It might be nearly as good as the Cheltenham GC field will be Norn, but that doesn't automatically make it a good race. Certainly not the best ever on Irish soil!

I backed Bobs Worth and Road to Riches. Easy to make a case for them all nearly, but if BW is at his best, he wins. It only requires forgiving him one below par run in the strangest race I have ever seen at Chelt. And R2R seems to have more scope than most, will have the run of the race, and may improve a few pound going left handed.
Report frank60 December 28, 2014 3:16 PM GMT
K.L  i dont think it ever happened,.. the horse to take out of the race for me is Boston bob .
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods December 28, 2014 3:20 PM GMT
Re: Road to Riches

keen leader    28 Dec 14 00:46 
hold your fire,

at around 3pm tomorrow you can have what you want on this lad at 999/1.  if you are going to throw money away, better doing it on a three digit price than at 13/2.


Laugh Messiah my ar$e. Clueless guesser.
Report callitasucit December 28, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
I would certainly take R2R home ahead of BB. Very admirable sort. May not be quite good enough to win a GC, but then again Lord Windermere won it last year!! Market always seems too ready to forgive BB imo.
Report MayoMan December 28, 2014 4:18 PM GMT
Would be worried about Bobs Worth now - I still don't think Lord W is fully wound up yet - one target for him this year
Boston Bob will improve I think given the way Mullins are running - great to see R to R going away at the end - a positive sign
Report callitasucit December 28, 2014 4:54 PM GMT
Looking at todays, the 4.6 on Silviniaco Conti looks big. GC is going to be utter sh1te. They should enter Faugheen! Nice canter around on Tuesday, then beat this lot by the odd furlong on Friday!!
Report CheltenhamRoar December 28, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
LW was hunted around today never put in the race never any intention of winning it
Report workrider December 28, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
Doubt they just hunted him around in a 90,000 race  Chelt , sure to be a sound reason for that run ...
Report CheltenhamRoar December 28, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
WR they done the exact same last season,Their only interest is the GC in March.
Report workrider December 28, 2014 5:57 PM GMT
Maybe you're right .I backed him in the race last year and dropped him from my Gold Cup portfolio after it ,and was amazed at the turnaround at Cheltenham,,,
Report The Gotchee December 28, 2014 6:14 PM GMT
Can't understand the run  of Bobs Worth, too bad to be true, looks like a horse that is regressing, Henderson has had very few Grade 1 runners this season compared to Nicholls.  Something just not right in his yard.
Report frank60 December 28, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
Nicky is a nice guy ;but even he must be p.ss off the way his horses are running [or not running] i would like to see an interview with him about his yard, if he feel like giving one.
Report norn iron December 28, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
CALLIT  IT WAS THE MOST COMPETITIVE FIELD IVE EVER SEEN  FOR GOLD CUP ON IRISH SOIL IVE BEEN TO FEW   WOULD YOU  RATHER SEE RACE LIKE CARVILLS HILL WINNING IN CANTER ? I ENJOY LOTS IN WITH CHANCE AS OPPOSED TO ODDS ON RACES WITH MOST HAVING NO CHANCE . BUT JUST MY OPINION   

THINK IT WAS STRANGE RACE WITH BOBS WORTH nice school 

LE VENT DANTAN MOST IMPRESSIVE

MONKSLAND /DEDIGOUT BOTH BE WORTH FEW£  WHEN FULLY FIT
Report callitasucit December 28, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
A good race Norn, but I would be looking forward to tomorrows hurdle more. Two true stars, both proper Grade One animals, and both look sure to give very near to their running. For all the competitiveness of todays race, it was far from a vintage renewal as was confirmed by those that filled the placings. Therefore I couldn't have it as anywhere near the best race held here.

I would love for there to be a Carvills Hill around!

Hendo might have ran out of the magic powder! Maybe Fenton was minding his stash too.
Report workrider December 28, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
Laugh
Report DECALEC December 28, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
You would love another carvills hill around callit "what so that bastid sorry fat bastid pitman could come outta retirement and break him again" rant over Angrytime to drink up this bar is closing shortly Cry
Report neill d December 29, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
\the Lexus of 2012 with Sir Des Champs, prime First Lieutenant, Flemenstar and Tidal Bay was at least as good a race, I would say better.
Report callitasucit December 29, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
Agree.
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