Naas Today........

One e/w bet for me today.

Akira 14/1 has been running in G3 events of late and the drop in class on the soft ground should ensure a good run, in what is a below average event for its class.

One bet today, Akito in the Cork Bumper. Stable think he's useful.

The one thing about the gobshee.....he certainly doesn't have any shame.....no matter how many buff horses he puts up....it doesn't seem to bother him....
To think that this man haunted Stamford Bridge off the forum.....

REALLY FANCIED WON DIAMOND EW 445  BUT COULD WELL BE MOVE ON REG JOCKEY  SHANE FOLEY WAS DECLARED FOR RESERVE SEA THE LION


SHEMSALL  COULD WELL BE BIG DANGER AS STILL THINK LOT COME FROM THIS YOKE

great shout pre fat,..ran well..to give the fav a fright..

I suppose I risk being drawn into a lengthy war of words by highlighting a couple of points raised on this thread.
Workrider(if I'm reading it correctly)wants to oppose the expensive 2 year old in the first on the grounds that he doesn't like the sire War Front..fair enough I wouldn't be wild about them myself.He muddies the waters slightly however by tipping a different horse from the same yard who happens to be by...you've guessed it War Front!!
Then you have a tip for a horse each way at 14/1 in a 15 runner listed race.Irrespective of the result backing horses each way in an open 15 runner listed race is so mathematically wrong in % terms that I would say it is impossible to show a profit long term at it.Each way betting with bookmakers on those races should carry a health warning.

Wonky ties himself up in knots every time he types so wouldn't read anything into his posts. Very funny though

You appear to be a % punter Tolmi. I am a form man myself and I back what I perceive to be value. If I see a horse at 14/1 and I evaluate that it should be a 6/1 shot and it is capable of winning I will use my judgement and back it accordingly, whether it is a handicap or a level weights race. The listed race today was a pure sh1t listed race which was contested in the main by handicappers. The winner was a genuine listed class horse but the 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th placed horses are handicappers rated 92,84,88 and 76 respectively. The horse I selected Akira (OR 101) had previously contested three listed events and on each occasion finished in the frame. Her last two starts were in G3 company where she finished a close 4th and 5th respectively. It was a drop in class and in my view had strong claims to be at least placed. As things panned out she ran very poorly but I have no complaints.

Slickster , just pm me , he had a 20/1 winner at Naas , and five winners at Cork .All hail the great one ...This guy knows his stuff

There is no way on this earth i would be "pming" you wonks...... Not in a million years ya buffoon

I have no issue with the selection or how it ran.I am merely pointing out how difficult it is to achieve "value" in the place part of your selection.While backing at 1/5 the odds in non handicaps with 8 runners and a couple of no hopers will virtually always provide the punter with an edge backing each way in a race such as today's will provide the bookmaker with an edge.What was the betfair win/place so of your selection?

He was only 4.69 to place(which surprised me a bt). So the 7-2 was much of a muchness after commission.

Not 7/2...14/5

I may be wrong, but I would be pretty sure most, or the majority anyway, of firms were paying 1/4 on that race?

I agree with what you're saying thought Tolmi. Its very rare to find any e.w value in a 15 runner event. Place odds on BF would usually be vastly superior. I would rather have slightly more on the win bet.

Firms pay a fifth of the odds and the gobshee wouldn't know the difference anyway.......

I would doubt that any firm was paying 1/4 unless in a shop forced into a price war because of competition...and that is far rarer nowadays than 10 years ago.

You're right about those War Fronts but still a classic old wonkatonk

Pity you forgot about your !/10 shot that got beat away with an army of other odds on shots , Thick will not be pleased with ya ,any word on RUBY , eh DJ...

how did i miss this , stupid gobshiite

Your head is melted WR.

I feel sorry for you,what was the name of the 1/10 shot please?

You're very fortunate you haven't a pot to p1ss in,all I will say is that comments made can be used in conjunction with other contributions as evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt.That thread that was removed the other day was dangerous and left little to the imagination

Expand on your take on Ruby why don't you ..Remind us what it was you accused him of ...I'm sure you'll be happy to tell us ...I just might remember myself before the week is out ..I have full faith that you'll come clean though and the'll be no need for me to ...

DJ don't let me down theres a good lad...

That's what I mean about old wonks.....hes a great character all the same....you never know whats around the corner with him....im sitting at home with tears running down my face reading this thread.....
In fairness that kind of entertainment is priceless.....and when he's on one of those enforced sabbaticals....we all miss him....and you can put Wildman in that boat too.....
May they both be regulars for many many years.....

Still waiting DJ ,don't keep us in suspence theirs a good lad...

No education. Childish juvenile behaviour. Saddo.

Point proven.

Have a read Irish guy