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By:
tony57
When: 13 Sep 14 18:22
lost a packet on welds..have to be honest disappointed he could go by that Johnson thing...but pocket talking...thank god listowel tomorrow..
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Sep 14 18:23
I was sure he'd get up,Johnston's horse found a little bit at the death,very far back but thought he lost it coming round the bend,very wide.
By:
kingrat
When: 13 Sep 14 18:25
another 1 for the books!Shocked
By:
punchestown
When: 13 Sep 14 18:35
Smullen rode it like he thought he could pick them up whenever he pleased but the winner got a dream run throughout the race and it wasn't helped by Smullen taking a pull shortly after leaving the stalls and ended up 3rd last turning in and about 5 wide,he had to expend some energy to get to a challenging position and flattened out in the final 50 yds.Thought he was over confident but that's racing.
By:
kavvie
When: 13 Sep 14 18:47
breeders cup beckons
By:
CaptainMack
When: 13 Sep 14 18:47
Could not have said any better than Punchestown did.
By:
norn iron
When: 13 Sep 14 18:55
TAKE A BOW RYAN MOOORE  BEST RIDE FOR LONG TIME
By:
MayoMan
When: 13 Sep 14 18:55
There is no other way to say this - Joseph you Plonker !
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Sep 14 18:55
Smullen was wide but that was chronic from Joe.
By:
kingrat
When: 13 Sep 14 18:57
oh be the hokey!Shockedthe books have got it all.
By:
CaptainMack
When: 13 Sep 14 18:58
Jesus!!! some shock! fair play to ryan but joeseph took him round 1m 4f!!! thought he was pegasus
By:
kavvie
When: 13 Sep 14 18:59
surely they will have to look at him after that.the air of invincibility is gone.and tens of millions from a stud point of view
By:
norn iron
When: 13 Sep 14 18:59
EVERYONE WILL BLAME JOC BUT CREDIT IS DUE WINNER WON ON MERIT AS ONLY 2 LENGTHS MAKE UP FROM YORK . A
ND I DIDNT BET IT 

GOOD SEE KEVIN RYAN GET ANOTHER BIG WINNER


RYAN MOORE IS BEST SINCE LESTER
By:
Kingdom Of Naples
When: 13 Sep 14 19:02
0r 127 pmsl
By:
CaptainMack
When: 13 Sep 14 19:02
Credit the winner, can't take anything away from him. But switch the jockeys and Austrailia wins 10 out of 10, don't think anyone would argue with that
By:
CaptainMack
When: 13 Sep 14 19:03
Had no bet by the way
By:
norn iron
When: 13 Sep 14 19:09
TONY ILL TEXT YOU WINNER @CURRAGH WhoopsAND ILL RING WORKRIDER IN MORN
By:
punchestown
When: 13 Sep 14 19:11
Young Joseph gave a very similar ride to the Smullen one earlier,you can't treat these Group races with contempt and expect to get walkovers,no need to go that wide other than trying to show off.
By:
Distant View
When: 13 Sep 14 19:15
1lb overweight too.

Great performance by the winner.
By:
3winnersandasecond
When: 13 Sep 14 19:33
There was always going to be a day when the difficulty of making 9st would make a difference. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned already.
By:
Kelly
When: 13 Sep 14 20:24
No idea why Joseph rode so wide and hard around the bend .  Surely when you are on ( allegedly) the best horse by far in the race , you can pick your position and pounce when it suits you .

Ryan Moore the best around these isles at present , guess that why he is riding for Coolmore betimes .
By:
dj876
When: 13 Sep 14 21:15
WD Pa,nice priced winner in the last with Mr.Ellison,the wheels are firmly back on the wagon for you.

The lack of pictures cost me a few pound with the mare as had some bigger prices up as well knowing waiting tactics would be applied but the betting activity was non existent but can't complain about the day.

The Grey Gatsby probably still isn't getting the credit he deserves(despite acknowledging variance in the standard of the respective rides),Ted Walsh gave a brain dead interview with Ryan Moore asking him did you think they went too quick,if it was Emma Spencer he would have snarled back Nah I held way off it with him for the crack.

I don't normally bet ante-post but the 4/1 on Free Eagle for the English champion looks fair value if you could trust the cautious DK Weld,BF sportsbook went 4/1 Free Eagle and 8/1 the grey gatsby (9/4 dutched) up until a couple of hours ago but couldn't avail unfortunately.
By:
The Gotchee
When: 13 Sep 14 22:13
Some people got carried away and  were suggesting that Australia after his win in the Juddmonte at York and I quote " if he improves from that he certainly can rate 133 and above." The love affair continued with this beaut "In the end he has been driven out to beat the 119 rated The Grey Gatsby by 2 lengths, but we know he is some way superior to that".
Another well known idiot then came out with this heap of manure, "....."hes a 100/1 on in the irish champion stakes"...
As I said before and I will say it again, imho he is a 124 rated animal and he is a 1m 4f + horse who should have run in the English St.Leger today.
However, I still think he is above average and to fulfill his potential they must run him in the Arc. This is his best chance of redeeming his reputation.
John F Kennedy has a similar profile to Australia but there is more speed in the family, he could be the real deal.
By:
The Gotchee
When: 13 Sep 14 22:17
Furthermore, Colm O'Donoghue is the best jockey in Ballydoyle. I can't understand why he hasn't been snapped up by some of the big yards. His ride on Baraweez was out of the top drawer.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Sep 14 22:28
Thanks Dj,whether coincidental or not the head is a better place from changing tack.
Not documented on post race reports in the media by Mr Weld as far as i can see(logical race is the English Champion is the quote)his interview on tv suggested he wasn't dismissing the Arc at all,know he would have to be supplemented and at the time i thought what an audacious plan,maybe it isn't though,Treve and Tagrooda are beatable. Could be well off the mark there but think he said it for a reason.
With Agnes Stewart,Brian Ellison, Sue Harty,M.Johnston cross channel raiders are doing well on both sides lately,will the trend continue tomorrow with Discussiontofollow????
His run at the Curragh two runs ago is well worth a look,you won't see many travelling better,9lb higher, still would think he would have to be thereabouts at an ew price?
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 13 Sep 14 22:56
Snapped up by what big yard gobshee?

Pretty sure he's in a fairly big one at present
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Sep 14 23:02
Him and Shamie are role playing though Snap,have their niche,get their breaks within occasionally but the handcuffs are on to an extent otherwise.
By:
somemuppet
When: 13 Sep 14 23:21
I have been at the champion stakes since 1992 and I have to say Moores ride today was fantastic.. a joy to watch. Delighted to see him get a group 1 for Kevin Ryan against the coolmore brigade.

Fantastic crowd there today , really enjoyed it. NearlY missed the first though thanks to collison on M50.
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 13 Sep 14 23:27
Pa, he said he "can't understand why he hasn't been snapped up by one of the big yards"

Firstly, he is already in a big yard.

Secondly, not aware of any vacancies at any other big yards.

Plenty would love to be in the position both Colm and Seamie are in.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 13 Sep 14 23:41
Plenty would indeed,still the argument is their career stifled to an extent? Agree with The Gotchee in that,fair enough the opportunity may not be there due to the strength of jockeys in Ireland as a whole,still your comment ridiculing his statement is wrong,Colm is a fine rider,Shamie i look at differently, anyway whether you wanted to just have a dig at the Gotchee is your business,tis a pity you can't keep it to the many points of racing today.
By:
The Gotchee
When: 13 Sep 14 23:49
snot crackheat and pot, I don't know what type of hallucinogenics you are on these days but the guy deserves a better role than he has a Ballydoyle. He is better than  a lot who have comfortable retainers in big yards both here and in the UK. If you can't see that you should give up the game. As a matter of interest, has your "bet of the month" finished yet? Go to bed ya clown, you are a laughing stock around here with your silly posts.
By:
dj876
When: 14 Sep 14 00:38
That DK interview must have been with ATR PA?Both trainer and jockey intimated that the English champion was by far the most likely option on RTE.I would be very surprised if he had his first run over 12F in this year's ARC after returning from injury.Best of luck in the first tomorrow,I thought O'Meara's unexposed challenger in first time cheekpieces was interesting.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 14 Sep 14 00:52
It was with atr,he said it off the cuff,not entered and needs to be supplemented and my first reaction was wtf,not the dopiest decision though to me and was in reply to your ante post bet,not 100% and maybe worth sharpnel at 40+ saver on the arc.
Fair point with Watchable,not sure are the home side that strong bar a few.
By:
ovalu
When: 14 Sep 14 00:54
Was in Lptown today, couldn't believe how skinny JOB is, didn't like the look of it at all, really think all involved should move on from this project, let JOB be a nh jockey if he wants and coolmore use a proper flat jock
By:
slickster
When: 14 Sep 14 00:58
Was caught out today big style. Too wide, kicked 200 yards too soon, and was picked off by the best.
By:
STELLAR MANIPULATOR
When: 14 Sep 14 01:35
Didnt see DKW interview but he evidently forgot he entered Free Eagle in the Arc last May ! That said , he only arrived back in training from Moyglare in late July so maybe they made the entry themselves and omitted to tell Dermot
By:
mitch leary
When: 14 Sep 14 13:48
the pressure for the o briens must be almost unbearable. aidan ran out of parade ring when australia was beaten. he was white in the face and joseph was close to tears on the walk in before the parade ring.
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