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wildmanfromborneo
20 Jun 14 12:00
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Times change,people change.

Certain views are not allowed.

Any mention of Israel not followed by spitting is not allowed and removed.

Any post saying anything in defence of the nuns doesn't last long either.

In some way you could call it pay back time but this new enlightened censorship ( in their eyes ) is deeply ironic and a sign of things to come.
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Report Vubiant June 20, 2014 12:26 PM BST
There was a revealing incident on the Marian Finucane show a few Saturdays  ago.
She was chatting away amicably to a young man about his various interests. Then he mentioned that he had often visited Israel and actually liked Israelis and enjoyed his sojourns.
Ms. Finucane immediately morphed into an apoplectic harridan and started verbally battering the guest like a Hamas commander -her voice rising in shrieking decibels of disbelief that anyone found Israelis less than the devil incarnate.
It would be a brilliant excerpt to play for a media studies class to show how on a rare occasion a built-in bias in a broadcasting organisation can become as clear as the light of day.
It was a sad episode that was almost funny in its weird clarity.
Report RoyalAcademy June 20, 2014 12:30 PM BST
Can't disagree with a word of your analysis vubes but some balance please: you omitted to tell us the "young man" was a disciple of Brendan O'Carroll
Report wildmanfromborneo June 20, 2014 12:32 PM BST
I am worse in that I actually support Israel in its efforts at staying alive.
Report Ozymandius June 20, 2014 6:17 PM BST
Not like you to be siding against dem der A-Rabs, Borneo.
Report ColdTurkey June 20, 2014 6:40 PM BST
to be fair to Marian, i think she's been there herself more than once and is probably basing her opinion on fact and not sky news type hysteria. don't think most palestinians argue with the existence of Israel.
Report Ozymandius June 20, 2014 9:30 PM BST
Mmmmm...they were probably operating under the misunderstanding that Palestine was some sort of Mecca for Gays.  Cape Town, Sydney, Rio, Birr outskirts and Palestine.
Report Ozymandius June 20, 2014 9:46 PM BST
Knock yourself out, Borneo;

http://www.swing4ireland.com/offaly-dogging-locations.html
Report wildmanfromborneo June 20, 2014 9:59 PM BST
Do they allow tractors ?
Report Ozymandius June 20, 2014 10:03 PM BST
Don't turn up in anything less than a John Deere.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 20, 2014 10:30 PM BST
The Nuffield for me that's my Oxford connection.
Report frank60 June 20, 2014 11:34 PM BST
Idont know if ozy and wildman like each other..but if they join forces theres a best seller between them, p.s they might even make Booker Prize Shortlist,Laugh
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2014 9:48 AM BST
Mine wouldn't be published.

Most of my posts here have been deleted.
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 9:58 AM BST
Ridiculous that your 'Gays for Palestine' post was deleted.

It's very hard to believe that anyone here would bother reporting that!  You are clearly a watched man.
Report frank60 June 21, 2014 12:55 PM BST
Wildman the irish have come a long way where Censorship is Concerned, one of the best examples of this is the R.t.e programme the Savage eye .i recon betfair forum have to be careful about the written word but i do enjoy the posts of your good self and ozy Grin p.s. i dont also agree with them but the forum would,nt be the same without both of your imput.
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 1:58 PM BST
disgraceful that wildmans posts are deleted..it happens regularly now..and I for one one has sent a message to betfair to ask why?..is free speech not allowed on the net?
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 2:07 PM BST
If it is free speech you are after...set up your own blog or website.

Clearly Betfair cannot allow certain views to reflect negatively upon them.
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 3:13 PM BST
what views have reflected negative on them?
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 3:16 PM BST
Take your pick.   Homophobic, xenophobic, racist...need I go on?

It is there perrogative what they choose to censor.  If you don't wish to be censored simply use your own platform.
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 3:32 PM BST
do you care to post one of the three/..the man is not racist, homophobic,xenophobic?..you may disagree with what he says..but surely you defend his right to say it?..but what I have seen he is not any of the three?..so for me its silly to delete posts that are not blatantly as you suggest?
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 3:42 PM BST
Obviously his view are deemed to be offensive or inappropriate or they wouldn't delete them.  That is Betfair's perrogoative.

I defend his right to say whatever he wants on his own platform.

You do understand, that this platform is regulated by Betfair and its contents can be seen to reflect upon them?  We are not free to say whatever we like on their platform.
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 4:07 PM BST
I understand completely..but my point is I believe its well over the top for what they(betfair)or mods..(on behalf )think his comments will offend or upset..its his point that its precisely why the country is the way it is because you cannot defend your beliefs or tell the truth..i.e. muslims..cos everybody is scared to be accused of racism?....to say Wildman is upsetting people with his views is not true..so therefore why delite
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 4:14 PM BST
They are clearly upsetting Betfair otherwise they wouldn't be deleted.

C'mon Tony, this ain't complicated.
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 4:18 PM BST
Pen them a note.  Tell them you want them to turn this place into Poet's Corner.  No holds barred.
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 4:19 PM BST
And they clearly don't think he is THAT bad, or they would have thrown him out years ago.  Lenient if anything imo.
Report pa lapsy June 21, 2014 4:26 PM BST
Whatever his views they are better than the wholesale lies and welching by other forumites.
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 4:30 PM BST
Not sure that's comparing apples with apples, Pa.
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 4:30 PM BST
wellsaid pa..the Shiite they allow others to say without deleting is beyond belief...
Report Ozymandius June 21, 2014 4:31 PM BST
Betfair is the ref, we all play by the same rules.
Report frank60 June 21, 2014 4:37 PM BST
I think think the expression is be near the knuckle, only wildman knows what he wrote, but the bits they allowed were hilarious.
Report frank60 June 21, 2014 4:37 PM BST
I think think the expression is be near the knuckle, only wildman knows what he wrote, but the bits they allowed were hilarious.
Report ColdTurkey June 21, 2014 4:41 PM BST
can't believe that either. may the mod is a shirt lifter..oh f_k why did i say that. that's my tourettes coming out. oh fk fk.  I may have been someone from the ifa or macra getting pissed off that you're suggesting farmers are dogging in Biffo land...the thoughts of that...Brian Cowen sitting in his merc ogling over a pair shagging on the back of a muck spreader...now i'll be banned for that! comes the argies (excluding las malvinas)
Report ColdTurkey June 21, 2014 4:48 PM BST
come on the argies i meantExcited
Report tony57 June 21, 2014 4:49 PM BST
Laugh
Report frank60 June 21, 2014 4:50 PM BST
Laugh biffo land
Report frank60 June 21, 2014 5:02 PM BST
IM sure cold turkey Mr C would prefare to refer to it as the enchanted walk
Report ColdTurkey June 21, 2014 5:11 PM BST
exactly my thoughts. Mr C. as mr C..t.   fill in the blanks....
Report wildmanfromborneo June 23, 2014 2:47 PM BST
The " Gays For Palestine " poster seen on the anti Israel march was hardly homophobic.

I highlighted it for the irony,here was a group of Gays on a political march supporting Palestine not realising that if they were living in Palestinian controlled areas they would be persecuted and would end up vaulting the security barrier to get into Israel where they wouldn't be persecuted.

Ozymandius point about it being their website is valid and one I acknowledge.

I think I will have to create my own blog.
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 4:46 PM BST
^ oh dear...I imagine it was deleted (rightly or wrongly) not because it was deemed homophobic but rather because of the views expressed on Palestine justice and society.

Let us know the blog address...(I see you as an Irish Howard Stern shock-jock minus the smut).
Report ColdTurkey June 23, 2014 4:53 PM BST
an Irish Michael Graham....he'll be on the right hook before the year is out
Report tony57 June 23, 2014 4:56 PM BST
Laughwildan makes a valid point..gays for palestine..yet if they come out there they would get there heads, and jihads, off!!lol..im no lover of israel's policy towards the arabs..but the irony of that march ..makes me laugh..well done Wildman...
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 5:05 PM BST
Martin Luther was a proud American Patriot....did that make u laugh too?
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 5:05 PM BST
* King
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 5:06 PM BST
* King
Report tony57 June 23, 2014 5:15 PM BST
no? silly comparison?
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 5:26 PM BST
a rather apt analogy, I thought.

It is possible to love and support your homeland even if you are subject to persecution there.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 23, 2014 5:41 PM BST
The Gays in this instance were British nothing to do with Palestine just trendy left wingers,not an apt analogy at all.
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 5:56 PM BST
'British'? How could you tell?
Report wildmanfromborneo June 23, 2014 6:15 PM BST
The fact that they were marching in England was a clue but accept that country has been somewhat overrun.
Report workrider June 23, 2014 6:17 PM BST
Their read WE KNOW OZY....Laugh
Report workrider June 23, 2014 6:17 PM BST
BANNER ...
Report Ozymandius June 23, 2014 6:25 PM BST
Significant Gay Palestinian community in London, Borneo.

One of the most accomplished man-ho's on the scene is Palestinian in fact.  Stage name 'Yasser the Brasser'. He has a stunning collection of PLO scarves.
Report tony57 June 23, 2014 6:36 PM BST
Laugh
Report frank60 June 23, 2014 9:40 PM BST
Grin
Report frank60 June 23, 2014 9:40 PM BST
Grin
Report ColdTurkey June 23, 2014 9:49 PM BST
bigger pasestinian gay community in Offaly from what i saw last weekend. shocking scenes in Edenderry's gay pride last weekend.
Report ColdTurkey June 23, 2014 9:49 PM BST
palestianian**
Report pa lapsy June 23, 2014 9:54 PM BST
Harbinger wasn,t there by any chance CT?
Report frank60 June 23, 2014 11:15 PM BST
They should be out in force in the citys of Brazil tonight, not a good time for your shoelaces to come undone.
Report tony57 June 24, 2014 9:39 AM BST
Laugh..very  good frank...
Report workrider June 24, 2014 2:49 PM BST
Laugh
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