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Padlock,
I didn't see any post by you on the thread "European Elections" or was it the name Adams annoyed you, dick. |
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The spread on the number of labour seats in the next general election with Paddy Power is a fantastic bet but a long wait and also problems with it being a thin market.
Under 15.5 @ 5/6 -Rabitte,Quinn,Howlin,Gilmore etc are not guaranteed to contend. They will be fortunate to have 6% of the vote and will be surprised if they make it into double figures. |
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no wan sun expect the usuals to be a little bit touchy over the next few days.........as you said what a line by GA......
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Buffett's net worth would not balance their fiscal policy though. It will be interesting to see how it develops now that more attention should be focused on their policies. Are they not implementing austere measures in the North Richters while simultaneously disputing every stealth tax or service cut here (without any mention of the country's continued requirement to borrow one billion per month to function)?
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the country is in some state when we are voting gunmen and women in......people with no acumen whatsoever.....still they don't call us thick paddies for nothing......
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you gotta love paulie..doesent care.. |
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paulie - Is that not what most governments in the World are? Blair took his mob into Iraq looking for WOMD which never existed.
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paulie whats new about gunmen/women and indeed gun runners being voted into councils and governments in ireland,has it never happened before?im baffled how one would find this strange......
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he never said it was strange.............
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......people with no acumen whatsoever.....
no we should stick to people that know what they are doing like the Healy-Reas or Mattie McGrath or Ollie Wilkinson or even Eamon O Cuiv......to name but a few. As for gunmen you sound like a man/woman who'd be in the Dev camp. |
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the only thing Gerry ever successfully put down was his gun.
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sure he wasnt even in the ira
![]() ![]() ![]() agree with paulie,says alot for the voting public when murdering scumbags get elected. |
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So let's just play along then just out of normal curiosity.
Has anyone ever asked Mt. Adams something like the following ? About 40 odd years ago in W Belfast young men were joining an organisation called the IRA in large numbers for what they thought were valid and compelling reasons. Given the nature of life in that area at the time , the charged atmosphere , if nothing else -the obvious peer pressure that would have existed... why did you not join the IRA -especially in view of the constant support for their methods and objectives which you expressed for many decades ? Or maybe I've missed it and the question has already been put . Does anyone know ? |
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the country is in some state when we are voting gunmen and women in.....
LOL... i must say i really think this has to go down as the best post ive ever read on the irish forum,either paulie is a bit slow on the uptake on irish history or his blinded hatred of sinn fein has clouded his judgement on this subject..... |
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vub 2 questions?
1.Was former government minister pat rabbitte a member of the official IRA (the stickies ) 2.Was tainaiste eamon gilmore a member of the official IRA your answer most likely will be i dont know or neither do i care...... The point being it is relevant know and over the last 5 years to ask such questions to stem the 32 county growth of sinn fein and the republican movement, another question Why werent these questions asked of adams in the 80s? Answer:Because sinn fein werent a threat politically either in the 6 counties or in the west brit state.... |
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6 counties, 26 counties, 32 counties.
That's Sinn Féin talk. |
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regardless of the talk could some of the more intelligent or cambridge read forumites answer my question to vub above,perhaps the d`ozy fella or indeed dj could shed some light on it....
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The reason Adams cannot admit to being n the IRA was shown by his political arrest last month.
Nelson Mandela was lauded here by some sycophantic liberals,he wasn't a gunman he was a bomber. Nearly every member of the first Dail was a gunman. If you want peace in the North you must accept that the past is just that the past. Dredging up forty year old crimes be it the work of IRA men or British soldiers is stupid as well as being unfair. Paulie Wallnuts consistently calls us thick Paddies,complains about the politicians we vote in yet he himself doesn't vote. |
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I couldn't be bothered voting dan.....look at the yokes we as a nation elect......the shinners......ming.....Wallace....lowry....healy rae.....and there are countless others.....
How can you take your right to vote seriously when so many others obviously aren't....... At least by abstaining I can say I didn't contribute to the election of these morons we elect..... I see the people of Kerry gave one of them healy raes enough votes for 3 quotas.....the same guy was giving the thumbs up to drink driving...... so we have ming for smoking pot.....healy rae for drink driving......Wallace for knocking all round him......and lowry for doing what lowry does best......we are a proud nation....we have so much to be proud about.... |
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wildman maybe you could confirm this,your fellow county man,the railwayman from the galtee mountains.it was water pistols and smoke bombs they used then wasnt it........it couldnt of been real guns and bombs,and noone was murdered and all that.....right.....
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Sinn Fein's greatest weakness is not their evasiveness surrounding historical events but their evasiveness and inability to construct a coherent economic policy that has a semblance of realism or sustainability. Unfortunately our leaders are either incapable of interpreting this or are too consumed participating in Punch and Judy politics.
They're the ultimate party of opposition,are they not implementing austere measures in the North Richters while simultaneously disputing every stealth tax or service cut here without any mention of the country's continued requirement to borrow one billion per month to function?(as stated above). A glance at Sinn Fein's proposed policies Property Tax abolished Universal social charge extirpated A cut in health in expenditure of €205.9 million (very precise but plucked out of the sky and completely unattainable) How will this be financed? An increase in corporation tax which will result in mass capital emigration and a destruction of FDI in Ireland. They propose a personal tax rate of 48%. This part is laughable now apart from opposing every stealth tax,their estimates for tax revenue incorporate the future proceeds from these taxes. The sooner the conversation moves to a pragmatic debate on realistic policies and away from the troubles the better.However the naivety of the Irish electorate seems to be boundless. |
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dj how many of the blueshirt/sticky coalitions policies from the last general election have been implemented,just as a matter of interest....as you have rightly said before,these policies are not worth the paper they are printed on,it is the policies that the civil servants devise that are fronted and used by serving governments.....
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Dan Breen was an elected TD,he would be described by the precious ones as a gunman.
He was a gunman and a ruthless one at that,he was fighting a war. There was no one trying to charge him in the 1960s for something he did in Soloheadbeg. Sinn Fein as their name suggests should be anti the EU but I think they are going native. I personally would never vote Sinn Fein but I accept it was easier for me living in Tipperary than it was the people who bore the brunt of the excesses of the Northern Statelet. I always had a simplistic view on the North where the Unionists are a minority posturing as a majority,give them Glasgow. |
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wmfb the lovely lady in the times hotel tipp town took me to dan breens home house....the ignorant on here wont see the comparisons you or i are making on this thread....
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I'm not here concerned with comparisons or historical 'what abouts?'.
Leaving all ideologies and agendas aside I'm simply inquiring if anybody has asked the President of SF why he was never a member of the Provisional IRA or if that question has been asked what the reply was. If Adams was a member of the PIRA why would he not acknowledge that fact as so many others have done -seeing as the Irish people seem quite content to accept former dealers in violence into the political mainstream. He would be following in a long established tradition. If,on the other hand,he was not a member of the PIRA he should frankly and openly tell us why not since it would have been a clear cut and obvious course for him to have taken in the environment he grew up in. One might even say that it would actually diminish Adams' record and reputation in the eyes of many that he never slaughtered for the sacred cause when all around him were doing so with his approval. |
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vub just for the record book could you please answer the following:
just at your leisure.... no panic,,,, 1.a former minsister of finance.....what was his role in the dublin castle (murders) 2.what role had he to play in the assasination of another self appointed field marshall 3.how much money did willie o dea make by being minister of defence and his contracts? 4.how many republican candidates were returned in the treaty county this weekend..... 5.and just while your at it.....please try to broaden your horizons rather than taken the old parochial hear say sayings...please vub....because you have a lot to offer this forum,your bigotry im afraid lets you down by the bagful...... 6.should we classify neil blanyey/CH gun runners/legends/former ministers or terrorists 7.how much is former career bigot and reformed barrister and former minister actually makin outa this country.....(despite inda arse pockets promises) i could go on... but im afraid unless you address the above you as a proud free stater have no grounds to throw stones at anyone.....i suggest you examine your own ethics first..... |
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rite lets put his argument to sleep once and for all.....the new breed of irish republicanism has risen from colleges all over the island.most with no affiliation to militant republicanism but yet still loyal to it....this new breed of youth wont go with the stereotypical genepool of their wannabe republican predessors of ff/fg....but most importantly they are not bigots and can see a role for every class in society regardless.....thats the difference...they dont see it as a career......or a DYNASTY as tryin rubridy quite recently said.....sums it all up to me to be quite honest....
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I always had a simplistic view on the North where the Unionists are a minority posturing as a majority,give them Glasgow
I have always had a simplistic view on the North where the Republicans are a minority posturing as a majority, give them Tipperary. |
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again the d`ozy one displays his indepth knowledge of all things irish.....#BLUFFer
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Count your lucky stars that your benevolent Sovereign, Lizzie Windsor, permits you to carry one of our passports.
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d`ozy you had ample oppurtunity to reply to any of my posts over the last 72 hours,again you refrained simply because you havent a clue what we are talkin about.....apart fromy your usual volleys of abuse directed to the republican movement,which i highly suspect you copy of ian o dohertys twitter feed....am i right karl?
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Sorry dickie, I tend to avoid getting down in the weeds with you on substantive issues.
It would be the equivalent of discussing Dostoevsky with my Daschund. |
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ohh dear.....keyboard warrior uses a wilkipedia reference shocker........
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the republican movement is worthy of any abuse directed at it dicky....murderers and bombers masquerading as peacemakers and statesmen.
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says the man who voted billy hutchinson??????
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and where did you glean this information from dicky????
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The thing I cant figure is why does Martin McGuinness freely admit his activity and yet Gerry Adams does not .
Given the nature of Irish politics does Martin not have more brownie points with supporters than Gerry ? |