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lol

I wonder do any posters have any comments on the price prior to the race today?

It was disgusting to see posts 5 minutes yesterday after the race informing us what a terrible price Stand Guard was and a lack of respect for the time and effort Snap took to make a valid contribution.

to short at 5/2

If Venezia wins the 5.10 will have been a profitable day alright pa.

is this a double max play snap ?

No its not a max play gnu, but have a tidy few quid ew on it @ 7s so will make the day a profitable one if it wins.

Exactly, dj, it was a perfectly legitimate question to ask imo, it was not a sniping post as you put it lapsy.

plenty of 10/1 available earlier snap

dj,
  pa makes a fair point..snap left himself open for that..when saying what he did..its after the race yet he just criticized what he did himself?..ive never passed comment on his punting..hes very good at what he does..as for passing comment on a unraced bumper runner..i have put a few fto winners on here..snap has put up fto maiden runners..?just cos how someone bets is not for you..gives you no right to say that's its all wrong?

Tony,

You seem to struggle with the concept of something being profitable over an extended sample size. If you put up ten 2/1 first time out bumper horses and six win this does not vindicate your flawed process.

The variable you are most dependent on is luck because your selection process lacks even a degree of logic. The variables that exclusively persuade you to have a bet such as trainer comments, course strike rate and a breeding knowledge that does not extend beyond acknowledging the sire would not be sufficient for most punters to give it a second thought let alone a bet.

The example of Pa lambasting a selection after the race should not be dependent on a previous poster's actions. It is illogical thinking and information cascades like this that are the ruination of valid information as it ensourages herding behaviour.

dj,
   your thought process is flawed,?why is it that you cannot have a 10/1 winner ..or a 20/1 winner why,..5 2/1 winners..?..the fact is the same..snap came on after the race..(not before)and made his point..yet just contradicted that by saying what he did?..dj, please don't try to turn it into something its not..it hypocritical..and you know it..don't take the piss...

Pa,
These patronising tones are beneath you but hardly surprising, I had to laugh at your post this morning when you said you were restraining from tribal warfare but in the same sentence stuttered but I concur with Borneo on this. The one eyed Pa is the most appropriate description I have seen on here.

If you want to contrast language here is your aftertiming blast (three minutes after the race just to stick the knife in) without any reasoning applied.

"Stand Guard won't get proceedings off to the best of starts and 10/11 was one lousy price".

In contrast to Snap justifiably enquiring how is it possible to make an accurate assessment on the price of a first time bumper horse without access to information.

Snap reasonably enquiring in contrast to PA's dismissive and arrogant aftertime!

As I said the ruination of valid information does not apply on here (but your behaviour is an example of it) but that seems to have went over your head, it applies to what develops from information cascades and sentiment dominating fundamentals.

As JMK said "an investor that is motivated by fundamental valuation runs greater risks than he who tries to guess better than the crowd how the crowd will behave”.

To get the thread back on track......Have had a decent e/w bet on MASTER THE WORLD.....gl

snap,i have no problem with your question..but it was after the race?..you made the point that people have a go after the race?..ive said I HAVE NEVER had a go at you..and I would not..but you cannot get away from what is looking at you snap..it is hypocritical..ive seen you put up horses that have been making there debut?..(a question dj also did not answer)i'm not carrying on as were going in circles..theres no bad feeling snap..but I think its fair what im saying..of course its only my opinion..and we are all entitled to that without falling out.

I very rarely, if ever back a horse first time out tony, just find there is too many variables. And there are enough variables as it is without punting a horse you've never seen run before.

I also wasn't referring to you as the one having a pop tony.

My question would have still been as relevant pre race, so just as it was posted post race makes no difference to my mind.

As usual , DJ , just fades away with a whimper when asked to answer ...Maybe hes gone off to ask the vicar if he finds his sons homosexual behavior disturbing..

You would do well to find another example on my part Dj, funnily enough never a mention of the serial aftertimers Kingrat and Ozymandius,why not? they do it all the time.

No worries tony. No offence taken.

Workrider,

I thought the aftertime on the Curragh thread was out of order as well when your three shorties all finished unplaced.

I just hope this unprovoked attack from a senior forum member will not deter Snap from continuing with his contributions.