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peckerdunne
15 Apr 14 15:44
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This word Michael D chose  Ceililuragh or something.

Can anyone give me a correct spelling and definition. I would be very grateful.
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Report never give up April 15, 2014 3:47 PM BST
https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/ceiliuradh/default.aspx
Report never give up April 15, 2014 3:47 PM BST
http://life.royalalberthall.com/2014/04/11/ceiliuradh-10-april-2014/
Report peckerdunne April 15, 2014 4:09 PM BST
Never give up

I had a look.Thats great thanks.

If anyone has any deeper meaning or tale regards this irish word, or its derivation, for celebration, that might help me further also.
Report Vubiant April 15, 2014 9:38 PM BST
Happy to oblige peckerdunne -stand by for a brief etymological exposition.

Latin had a word 'caelebs' which meant 'bachelor'. Roman bachelors were happy people because they were free from the trammels of marriage to a shrewish woman. They frequently went out partying to toast their good fortune.
This act was expressed by the derived Latin vertb 'celebrare' i.e. to act like a bachelor , to partake in an episode of boisterous,laddish merrymaking ( accompanied by copious libations of intoxicating liquor).

At some point in history a form of this word was borrowed into English as 'celebrate / celebration' and later borrowed by Gaelic in the form 'ceileabhradh'. Note the 'b' was still retained before phonological change got rid of it. When the 'b' was no longer pronounced it was decided to simplify the spelling to 'ceiliúradh'.
Mind you the 'd' at the end isn't pronounced either but survives!

As happens -the basic meaning of the word was expanded so that one did not have to be a happy bachelor to celebrate  -any hen-pecked hubby and (even) women could .

One can spend much time researching  the fascinating world of linguistic and cultural change .
Report Ozymandius April 15, 2014 10:50 PM BST
I love it when Vubs raises the tone!
Report wildmanfromborneo April 16, 2014 9:24 AM BST
The French for bachelor is celibataire,this gives us the commonly misunderstood word celibate.
Celibate means being unmarried it is almost always now used to mean not being sexually active.

Terry Wogan was interviewing some actress on his show,she was claiming to be celibate ( not sexually active ) she asked Terry Wogan had he long periods of celibacy himself,he replied yes about 24 years,she fell about the place laughing saying you were a virgin til you got married,his reply " weren't we all "
Report Kelly April 16, 2014 12:15 PM BST
Those were the days , wildman . Most of us were until marriage .  Sometimes wonder though would we all repeat the exercise .

I was a Pioneer until age 27 , chide my kids with the 4 of them driving me to drink . Not sure I achieved anything by abstinence though , except possibly a fairly healthy liver and a non accessed bank balance for drink . And I had 3 long holidays in Germany before age 27 , and not a drop of alcohol , the locals thought I was bonkers .  On reflection , maybe they had a point !
Report wildmanfromborneo April 16, 2014 12:44 PM BST
I would do it all again and change nothing.

I think we had it easy compared to the present generation,we were always employed,one income was enough for the house.

I watched my daughters struggling with their children running a house and working as well, my wife stopped working the day we got married,before any jump down my throat she was an unbelievably hard worker and kind of ran the show.

As for drinking I never had any money to drink as a young lad and when I started work I wasn't really a drinking man.

Drinking comes with being alone.
Report Kelly April 16, 2014 1:04 PM BST
Think I would tweak a few happenings , workrider , benefit of history etc . My wife did not work ( or need to work ) until all the kids were at grammar school ( our children were close in age , all 4 overlapped in uni as my daughter , the eldest , stared a second degree course in law after her initial degree ) . Thank goodness there were decent grants and allowances in those days , none of your student debt etc .

I could have easily afforded drink when young , partly because I won money regularly playing  cards , and I was an astute punter privy to information occasionally .

Agree though re life generally being less stressful then as now , despite material well being .  We also had simpler and lower expectations , and were happy with less--we had to be . No need then for skiing holidays and 2 other holidays which became the norm a while back --but think that has changed for most .
Report Vubiant April 16, 2014 8:38 PM BST
Hey there -keep workrider outta this !
Report peckerdunne April 17, 2014 6:56 PM BST
Thanks to all.

Vubiant, that was exactly what i was looking for. Excellent stuff thank you.
Report tony57 April 17, 2014 7:05 PM BST
enjoyed that vubiant...ta
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