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silvergreaser
09 Mar 14 18:39
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taken for a fool!.

I had a nice bet on Sammy Black last time, ran as if it was shot, handicapper only drops it a pound should've been dropped 10 pounds for such a stinking display.

But it seems the trainer wasn't too worried about the pound drop horse wins in an almost canter today.

To say I'm sick of this sh!t is an understatement.

Not one person will be asked to answer for its shocking but very intended run last time!.
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Report norn iron March 9, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
SG THEY NOT machinesDevil  GOOD SEE DANNY MULLINS RIDE TWO EXCELLENT WINNERS TODAY

WELL DONE TONY MULLINS Love
Report GANT007 March 9, 2014 5:57 PM GMT
The best horse on the day will win. As NORN states " they are not machines".
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
Machines only when it suits the trainer, it annoys the sh!t out of me.

I knew it was only a matter of time before Sammy suddenly burst back to life, unfortunately I got it badly wrong?
Report GANT007 March 9, 2014 6:18 PM GMT
You seem to let the owners off the hook or does that not suit the agenda.
Report norn iron March 9, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
SG  I HAD 25£ ON BRAVE VIC 2 RUNS AGO 5/2   COMES OUT YESTERDAY WINS BIG HANDICAP 20/1  LET IT RUN W/O  FEW £

STILL CROSS BUT  THEY NOT TRAINED FOR PUNTERS  AS OWNERS PAY VERY BIG BILLS  WE ALL LOSE FAITH BUT COUPLE  RUNS GETS THEM READY Devil
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
I'd love to know what these trainers are giving them, they can go from zero to hero in almost an instant.
Report punchestown March 9, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
And Martello Tower ran today with a cloak of invisibility for the squeaky clean owner.
Report norn iron March 9, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
PUNCH STILL AINTREE/FHOUSE /PSTOWN ID EXPECT MARTELLO PIC UP NICE POT
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
It'll be all ok punchestown as Ruby drapes the tri colour taking the limelight off the real victor the horse.

Seriously has anyone actually realised Willie Mullins and Ruby Walsh would be pretty much nobodies without the ability of the horse.

As such they're fake superstars, because they're totally dependent on a horses ability.
Report dj876 March 9, 2014 6:44 PM GMT
Ah Greaser you came on to vent your anger at feeling cheated and then revert to this because you know with recent events it can't be dismissed but the thread might have more crediblity if your motives weren't stated in the opening post.

I shouldn't be getting involved in this thread because the theme has changed from criticising Tony Mullins to Substance abuse and now back to the normal one.
Report norn iron March 9, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
DISAGREE AS TAKES GOOD TRAINOR & JOCKEY AND OF COURSE THE HORSE = YOU HAVE PERFECT COMBINATION  TO GET JOB DONE
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
No abuse whatsoever dj, just years of not been fooled by fake deitys, where is the abuse??
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 6:50 PM GMT
sorry dj, I miss read your post, but Ill still stand by what I'm saying or trying to say?
Report dj876 March 9, 2014 6:53 PM GMT
silvergreaser • March 9, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
I'd love to know what these trainers are giving them, they can go from zero to hero in almost an instant.

If you think the sport is inherently crooked (and I am not disputing it),why do you still punt on it?

What are you trying to say,first you inferred he wasn't off a yard,then you suggested he was souped up and now it's Ruby and Willie's fault?
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
As I said dj I think Ruby and Willie are fake because if they were not training or riding the best horse they would be nobodies.

Horse racing is defined by the ability of the horse, if the horse is no good, then the trainer and jockey is no good.

How can anyone dispute that fact when it stares you in the face everyday??

Anyway do you think Sammy Black was off a yard?
Report dj876 March 9, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
Anyone that has even the most basic understanding of the sport will know a jockey makes very little difference in an uncompetitive maiden hurdle in the winter but anyone that thinks it doesn't matter on Tuesday in the Supreme or Champion is clueless.

"Horse racing is defined by the ability of the horse, if the horse is no good, then the trainer and jockey is no good".

No one has ever disputed the above statement,you don't half state the obvious sometimes like informing us that Derrick Smyth likes a punt.

To be honest I don't know why I replied it's the same inane discussions constantly on here,plenty of worthy debates to be having this week but yet you on about the same 4 Simplistic topics.Groundhog day!!
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 7:21 PM GMT
Do you think willie and ruby are overrated and only have so much success because they're training and riding horses that are so expensive even flat breeders can't believe the ridiculous money been spent on what are basically eunuchs.

Oh how so many other trainers and jockeys would die for just 20% of what Mullins and Walsh has.

But you know they're the best you know?, yet nobody told the horse that he might just be the best??
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods March 9, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
dj, nail on the head.... Silver is clueless. Best to ignore him. Most do. He'll be even worse after his 11 cans tonight Sad
Report dj876 March 9, 2014 7:25 PM GMT
Where have I mentioned a word about Willie or Ruby??Have a good week.
Report silvergreaser March 9, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
Clueless?

Or just that I don't buy into the so called status quo.

Anyone with at least a couple of brain cells will figure out a trainer and jockey are virtually nobodies without the horses ability.

If the horse has ability then the trainer and jockey are heroes, but if the horse is useless well what can the trainer and jockey do about it?
Report The Gotchee March 9, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
The pre Cheltenham nerves are getting to poor old dj. He has to have a verbal assault on someone before the big festival. Good luck with the odds on shots dj.
Report norn iron March 9, 2014 7:53 PM GMT
SG IM NOT HAVING A DIG BUT IF YOU HAD FOLLOWED SAMMY TODAY THINK YOU WOULD BEEN HAPPY AS LOT BIG PRICES IN RUNNING AS HE ALWAYS OUT THE BACK AND PERFECT THAT RORY OMOORE WENT LIKE MARCH HARE

I THINK IT WAS THE DISSAPOINTMENT THAT YU DIDNT BACK SIMILAR TO MY POOR CALL NOT TO FOLLOW BRAVE VIC Y,DAY YES IT HURTS  BUT EVERY HANDICAP IN RACING WE ALL CAN SPOT SIMILAR schooling AS ALL TRAINORS TRY OUTFOX THE SYSTEM .

WORKRIDER MISSED MY PON CALL TODAYSad AS SAMMY WAS  MY EYECATCHER HENCE I TIPPED IT UP
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