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22 Feb 14
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Improves out of recognition horses yet all he does is work them on the gallops like every other trainer?
So what is the magic potion?, was Mullins on that list?
So what is the magic potion?, was Mullins on that list?
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Considering it was Carlow, maybe close connections I don't know?
Sober up man.
You are worse than a fellow who always ends up pining for a lost love after a few too many drinks. Same sh1t everytime. Over and over again.
Move on.
You are worse than a fellow who always ends up pining for a lost love after a few too many drinks. Same sh1t everytime. Over and over again.
Move on.
Horse has abilty, horse ends up in Wille Mullins stable and seems to have twice as much abilty pretty swiftly?
I really cant get my head around what this guy does that every other trainer doesn't do?
I'm all ears?
I really cant get my head around what this guy does that every other trainer doesn't do?
I'm all ears?
Ozy at least I don't pine for an online fight which seems to make your day, what I say I mean it.
Take my opinions whatever way you want, but what I say I mean every bloody word of what I say, I don't get involved in some petty tiffs that seems to give you some sort of kick.
Take my opinions whatever way you want, but what I say I mean every bloody word of what I say, I don't get involved in some petty tiffs that seems to give you some sort of kick.
Its the repetition that's the problem. You do realise you have started at least a 100+ threads on this subject? Almost always when you are locked. It's as if the previous 99 threads have never happened and have been wiped from your memory.
Good night.
Good night.
Silvergreaser - in all fairness you can't go round making accusations like this on an assumption that his horses improve too much. Isn't that he's employed to do anyway.
Reason for Mullins dominance is he has 3 of the 4 biggest owners in NH racing backing him. Ricci and Wylie and to a lesser extent O'Leary. I think the only other owner who compares is McManus. Generally many of the best horses end up with him.
Reason for Mullins dominance is he has 3 of the 4 biggest owners in NH racing backing him. Ricci and Wylie and to a lesser extent O'Leary. I think the only other owner who compares is McManus. Generally many of the best horses end up with him.
and we are off....there is always one who takes the bait and starts the 'debate'....
No debate here - I think the argument being made is ridiculous to be honest.
SYT I recognise that fact, but questions need to be asked when something is too good to be true it usually is.
Henderson was found out.
Locked Ozy hardly!
Henderson was found out.
Locked Ozy hardly!
Why Ozy do you think Mullins and his pious contaminated feed doesn't deserve an explanation, funny they never found the source of this contaminated feed but Mullins decided the best form of defence was attack,
Ah yeah guys Willie of the saintly Mullins clan would never dare try and get a head start on his peers, say 3 hail mary's and all is forgiven....
its the water in Carlow dont you know, i believe they have the same type of water in nicky hendersons and and paul nicholls yards.
Frank I'm suppose to be under the influence or I cant be anyway sober if I ask a genuine question about the messiah of national hunt racing?.
Its all above board you know, everything he does is squeaky clean...
Considering the recent revelations I think the thread title has more than a modicum of debate in it don't you think??
Its all above board you know, everything he does is squeaky clean...
Considering the recent revelations I think the thread title has more than a modicum of debate in it don't you think??
tell you a story about W P MULLINS, young kid that goes to the bookies in a wheelchair, who was born with the condition, anyways was at
an irish racetrack and some guy gave him a tip for the mullins horses, cut long story short, the horse lost and mullins found the kid
after the race and gave him a roll of notes. sounds like a good man to me and see he only had the 4 winners today.
an irish racetrack and some guy gave him a tip for the mullins horses, cut long story short, the horse lost and mullins found the kid
after the race and gave him a roll of notes. sounds like a good man to me and see he only had the 4 winners today.
Isleofhopendreams need I say more.
He is not on the list.
The list has a common denominator.
He is not on the list.
The list has a common denominator.
Isleofhopesanddreams was trained by Knight a useless trainer who is soft on her horses. It turns up in Mullins stable. Anyone who thinks he would entertain such a horse off 86 running under his name unless it has 2+ stone in hand is a fool. It's easy know who the forum
Mugs are and Silver is top of the list.
Mugs are and Silver is top of the list.
Wildman I was just making a connection with Pat Hughes who is Bagenalstown based no more than a stone throw from Muine Beag where Mullins trains, with such close proximity would suggest that they're very familiar with each other including Pat Hughes brother the ex vet who is at the center of this case, so its not unreasonable to suspect that a Mullins or two or somebody closely connected to them might be on the infamous list?.
Henderson might have some of the biggest owners and some of the best horses but I always had my suspicions about the guy for years, his horses were not just winning they use to win so easily that if you tied an American freight train to their tails they would still win, when the news broke about the Queens horse and Henderson was found out telling a pack of lies I felt partly exonerated.
People on here argued till they were blue in the face to defend Fenton, Dunguib and the use of the potent sheep wormer that has crystal meth like similarities.
I feel no shame about having a little gloat and saying I told you so now that Fenton is finally in the dock but whats galling is it took the Dept of Agriculture to condemn the guy while the Turf Club decided to except his **** and bull story as to how the methamphetamine like substance got into Dunguibs system, I really hope the Turf Club come out of this smelling like the Turd that they are.
I have my suspicions about many other trainers where too good to be true is apt, a certain female trainer in Britain, a Yorkshire based journeyman who suddenly found a holy grail, a son of a former multiple grand national winning trainer who also suddenly found that holy grail, a former Irish based trainer now based in the north of England who seems to have unearthed some sort of rocket fuel such has been the remarkable improvement in his fortunes, not to mention a Northern Irish based trainer who people barely ever heard of but now is training loads of winners both sides of the Irish Sea.
When something is too good to be true it usually is!, but never fear horse trainers the fawning media would never dare question your methods they'll just adorn you with the usual label "genius".
Henderson might have some of the biggest owners and some of the best horses but I always had my suspicions about the guy for years, his horses were not just winning they use to win so easily that if you tied an American freight train to their tails they would still win, when the news broke about the Queens horse and Henderson was found out telling a pack of lies I felt partly exonerated.
People on here argued till they were blue in the face to defend Fenton, Dunguib and the use of the potent sheep wormer that has crystal meth like similarities.
I feel no shame about having a little gloat and saying I told you so now that Fenton is finally in the dock but whats galling is it took the Dept of Agriculture to condemn the guy while the Turf Club decided to except his **** and bull story as to how the methamphetamine like substance got into Dunguibs system, I really hope the Turf Club come out of this smelling like the Turd that they are.
I have my suspicions about many other trainers where too good to be true is apt, a certain female trainer in Britain, a Yorkshire based journeyman who suddenly found a holy grail, a son of a former multiple grand national winning trainer who also suddenly found that holy grail, a former Irish based trainer now based in the north of England who seems to have unearthed some sort of rocket fuel such has been the remarkable improvement in his fortunes, not to mention a Northern Irish based trainer who people barely ever heard of but now is training loads of winners both sides of the Irish Sea.
When something is too good to be true it usually is!, but never fear horse trainers the fawning media would never dare question your methods they'll just adorn you with the usual label "genius".
I better correct myself before some smart ass corrects me, Closutton Muine Bheag which is the Irish for Bagenalstown.
Successful trainers are good at getting rid of the duds. They have no problem filling the boxes again. Then get rid of the new duds. Do this a few times and you have a yard of possibles.
To answer your question Silvergreaser,I don't.
The improvements in these horses he gets from other stables is too stark.
The improvements in these horses he gets from other stables is too stark.
There's a lot of trainers down that neck of the woods on the Carlow/Kilkenny border wildman, you have Tony and Margaret Mullins who train side by side on the Goresbridge side of the border, Pat Fahy is close by, doesn't Tom Foley train down Bagenalstown way too?, even Jim Bolger is close by among others.
Silvergreaser , asks a question , lo and behold , he's an alcoholic .Shame on ye who belittle a man for what is in all fairness a reasonable question .I don't believe Mullins puts anything untoward in his feeds , but i do feel that Silvergreaser has the right to ask the question ..This is after all a forum for debate ....
Tony Mullins trains( if that's what you call it ) in Gowran
Tom Foley trains in Garryhill.
You have left out Carlows most famous two trainers,the two that are up to their neck in this current controversy.
Tom Foley trains in Garryhill.
You have left out Carlows most famous two trainers,the two that are up to their neck in this current controversy.
Maybe its Tom then that trains at Goresbridge?, the only other one I can think of is the Shark who's hardly famous, more infamous if this forum is anything to go by?.
Shame on you Wonks, for suggesting that I suggested that Greaser is an alcoholic. I said he had a few scoops on board and I was right! You do understand the difference?
Are you still on the dry?
Are you still on the dry?
Tom trains in Duninga which is the home place.
Infamous is right and can't train a winner now since the local vet got collared.
Infamous is right and can't train a winner now since the local vet got collared.
Foggy your nitpicking is famous at this stage , a stalker of the highest order , always ready with a negative put down of someone , your little reference from last night says more than words from me EXACTLY what you were implying... Ozymandius 22 Feb 14 22:47
Sober up man.
You are worse than a fellow who always ends up pining for a lost love after a few too many drinks. Same sh1t everytime. Over and over again.
Move on.
Sober up man.
You are worse than a fellow who always ends up pining for a lost love after a few too many drinks. Same sh1t everytime. Over and over again.
Move on.
I was certainly not implying that Greaser was an Alcoholic. It is common knowledge on here that he enjoys a few drinks. Nothing more.
More importantly, how is your own sobriety?
More importantly, how is your own sobriety?
Foggy , trying to divert attention again , try and get out more often mate , i'm sure Cleggy or Compo would be willing to give you a push ...If you want I'll even come and bring you to Naas ...I'll take the strain , its all in a good cause ...I always try and help those who cant help themselves , so feel free to call on my help anytime....
Out of curiosity wildman who is the other one I left out?.
ok, look Wonks, I can tell you don't want to talk about it, fair enough. But you did bring up the subject after all.
Foggy , stick to your Shirley Temple Bars and you should be alright , that's about your strength , coming on here accusing people of having problems , when in effect all they asked was a very engaging question ..Silvergreaser has never hid the fact he likes a drink , so for the likes of You telling him to sober up is laughable ...Taking the moral high ground is unworthy of you ..Have a look at your own morals , ( I PAY FOR MY WOMEN ) trouble is you never told us your WOMEN were of the SHIRLEY TEMPLE BAR VERITY TILL YOU CAME OUT RECENTLY ....So be careful the next time you feel the need to moralize ....After all is said and done you wouldn't make a great teacher of morals now would you ..Good Day..
^ epic seethe 
What might actually be helpful if you came out ad talked openly about your problems. Perhaps you could help others on here?
What might actually be helpful if you came out ad talked openly about your problems. Perhaps you could help others on here?
silver,
I think your way off on this one..the man just has the best owners the best jockeys..and is the best trainer atm..simple..he has far too much to lose..fenton has a yard for 80 that has only 20..you do the maths...
I think your way off on this one..the man just has the best owners the best jockeys..and is the best trainer atm..simple..he has far too much to lose..fenton has a yard for 80 that has only 20..you do the maths...
Why would he risked putting so many jobs at risk?? ALSO what Tony says is correct,,, it might help the forum if we were,nt so judgemental ..let him who is without sin and all that.
TO be fair OZY DR johnson said that amost 250 years ago , i hope we have change a fair bit since then.
How is Silver allowed to still post.
He dreams about the O Brien children and has made some disgusting remarks about Vincent O Brien.
He needs to be on some sort of register. Surprised Betfair forum is allowing a thread that basically slanders Mullins name with no evidence or proof what so ever other than the opinions of a man who ranting are bordering on a fiction novel.
He dreams about the O Brien children and has made some disgusting remarks about Vincent O Brien.
He needs to be on some sort of register. Surprised Betfair forum is allowing a thread that basically slanders Mullins name with no evidence or proof what so ever other than the opinions of a man who ranting are bordering on a fiction novel.
Greaser is perfectly entitled to his opinion on the topic and should feel some what vindicated by recent events.
Would anyone dispute the thread title if he replaced horse racing with Mullins?
It's rife throughout racing and impossible to truly monitor without thorough and unannounced stable testing.If they know what they are doing,they're not going to be caught on race day.
On a slightly different tangent,nice boost to Wicklow Brave's form today from the stable in (with) form.
Amazing there hasn't been much discussion of the previously mentioned common denominator and the most unlikely of Don Corleone's?
Would anyone dispute the thread title if he replaced horse racing with Mullins?
It's rife throughout racing and impossible to truly monitor without thorough and unannounced stable testing.If they know what they are doing,they're not going to be caught on race day.
On a slightly different tangent,nice boost to Wicklow Brave's form today from the stable in (with) form.
Amazing there hasn't been much discussion of the previously mentioned common denominator and the most unlikely of Don Corleone's?
rubyisgodinthesaddle 23 Feb 14 16:24
How is Silver allowed to still post.
He dreams about the O Brien children and has made some disgusting remarks about Vincent O Brien.
He needs to be on some sort of register. Surprised Betfair forum is allowing a thread that basically slanders Mullins name with no evidence or proof what so ever other than the opinions of a man who ranting are bordering on a fiction novel.
Fiction? have you been living in a cave for the last few years ruby?
I asked a simple question do we really believe everything Mullins is doing is all above board?.
No evidence maybe? apart from supposed contaminated feed?, but doesn't stop me from having my doubts as to the legitamacy of something that has for a long time had more than a look of something that is far too good to be true even allowing for some really wealthy patrons.
Do you want me banned ruby because I dare question something you would never ever contemplate because you believe the myth the media buys and sells?.
Head in the sand and then get all pious and look for a poster to be banned because he dared say what he thinks?.
As for my disgusting remarks about Vincent OBrien I'd really love for you to enlighten me on that one?, as for the O'Brien children all I asked was in my own style are they actually allowed to live outside the suffocating clamp of their pious fathers image?
How is Silver allowed to still post.
He dreams about the O Brien children and has made some disgusting remarks about Vincent O Brien.
He needs to be on some sort of register. Surprised Betfair forum is allowing a thread that basically slanders Mullins name with no evidence or proof what so ever other than the opinions of a man who ranting are bordering on a fiction novel.
Fiction? have you been living in a cave for the last few years ruby?
I asked a simple question do we really believe everything Mullins is doing is all above board?.
No evidence maybe? apart from supposed contaminated feed?, but doesn't stop me from having my doubts as to the legitamacy of something that has for a long time had more than a look of something that is far too good to be true even allowing for some really wealthy patrons.
Do you want me banned ruby because I dare question something you would never ever contemplate because you believe the myth the media buys and sells?.
Head in the sand and then get all pious and look for a poster to be banned because he dared say what he thinks?.
As for my disgusting remarks about Vincent OBrien I'd really love for you to enlighten me on that one?, as for the O'Brien children all I asked was in my own style are they actually allowed to live outside the suffocating clamp of their pious fathers image?
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