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09 Feb 14
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I think that's what Barry Connell described him as earlier this year..... Somebody should tell Barry to open his eyes.....because big races aren't easy to win.....and if little Danny wins the champion hurdle... I will eat my toes.... one by one....his effort on the tullow tank today was as inept an effort as one is likely to see in a big race.....
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Out ridden by Ruby no doubt,in leaving a horse with more gears dictate from the front at a crawl but Ruby had plenty up his sleeve.
I am not defending Danny Mullins because I think he is clueless and he didn't give TTT any chance of winning but I don't think he would have beaten the winner whatever way it panned out today. |
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Agree, he was poor again. I wont complain about it from a pocket point of view, as we all know who rides what before a race.
But if Danny wants to go racing to sit and admire Ruby, he be better off paying in like the rest of us, grab a seat in the stands, and not be risking life and limb for the privilege. |
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I think i'm on my own on this issue but I don't think he is half as bad as people make out on her. Today, the horse was never travelling down the back straight and was beaten by what looks a very high class horse. Best horse won imo and no jockey would have mad a difference.
I'm certainly not arguing that he is anywhere near as good as ruby or geraghty but apart from cooper and townend, he is our next best young jockey imo. |
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agree totally.im on our conor big time for ch.im worried..he dont seem to have any positive points sadly.oh for cooper to take the ride..
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New approach ..... There are 20 riders in Ireland better than Danny Mullins ...... but they will never get the chances he has got..... for a horse that has won at the top level ...,. he can't even get it to jump properly ..... too far back .....and totally outridden.....
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Well he mightn't be the best jockey in the world but surely those comments are massive exaggeration. If you can name 20 better jockeys than him, fair play to you.
He was very lucky to get the job for barry connell undoubtedly but he didn't get it for no good reason either. He was a good apprentice on the flat and rode a few good winners for his mother and shark hanlon I think when he went over jumps. I'm not saying he is a brilliant jockey but he can't be as bad as you are making out. |
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Ruby Walsh....Barry geraghty ..... Davy russell .....Brian cooper..... Paul townend..... Paul carberry .....Davy condon.....Robbie McNamara ....Brian O Connell..... Mikey Fogarty....Jane Mangan....Andrew lynch....Andrew McNamara.....Mark Enright.....Rob Jones....Derek O Connor....there's 16 who are all better.....some light years ahead of him.... and I'd have people like David Casey...Robert power... Mark Walsh .....Eddie O connell and Kevin Sexton ahead of him too.....where I would struggle is to find the twenty riders in this country..... that he is better than.....
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With Ger Fox's 7lb claim, I would include him there too. Serious talent
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Have to agree re Danny , hes so poor it hard to believe he has a license ...Barry had better bite the bullet and soon ...Unless that is he wants people to forget how poor a jockey he was himself , and is really putting Danny up to prove the point ...
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If Mullins was allowed claim 7 lb he wouldn't be value for it.....
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Robbie Colgan another....You wouldn't see Rob Jones in many lists Paulie? 8 winners from last 200 odd rides.
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Good jockey dj....doesn't get the recognition he deserves....
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Plenty of preparatory work but more recognised jockeys currently get the winning opportunities perhaps.
On a different tangent what will Brian Cooper be riding in the champion hurdle? |
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Tidal Bay today what sort of ride was that?, the jockey didn't have a clue what he was trying to do, out the back up the front out the back, and then the horse decided as is Tidal Bays way I'll do it my way, put Darryl Jacob back on the horse.
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stick your eyes up to air all you want dj but if that was some other jockey he would be Spanish Inquisitioned on here.
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I have to say I thought danny mullins rode the wrong race, I don't understand why they let ruby didctate ? if ttt was mine I,d make the running with him and say come catch me.
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Lads, I wouldn't be Danny's biggest fan but The Tullow Tank has to be ridden a certain way, like most horses. When he saw that Ruby was going to make the pace on Vautour, what did yous expect Danny to do?? Go and make the pace with him??? The Tullow Tank had every chance today and never made any ground on Vautour from the last hurdle. A great exhibition from Ruby but Danny did little wrong in defeat! Better horse won, end of story!
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44 runs,take a look but that is honestly the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen on this forum.
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what are you getting at dj?, why would Walsh all of a sudden rush a horse who needs to be kidded along up towards the front of affairs, and then settle back again?
It was a stupid ride on a horse that needs coaxing. |
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From what I saw today, I didn't see what Danny Mullins did wrong in the race. I must be missing something that dj and paulie have seen. He was ridden the same way when winning the Paddy Power future Champions Novice Hurdle (Grade 1) when there 8 lengths back to King of the Picts in second. Today, he finished second with King of the Picts 12 lengths back in third. An argument can be made that he improved from his last run and was beaten by a better horse today. Anyway, it doesn't surprise me with the likes of dj and paulie who wouldn't know their ar$e from their elbow. They can't see beyond odds on shots.
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Gotchee Mullins did zilch wrong horse got outpaced by a superior animal, stayed on again but always been held by the comfortable winner.
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dj876 • February 9, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
Out ridden by Ruby no doubt,in leaving a horse with more gears dictate from the front at a crawl but Ruby had plenty up his sleeve. I am not defending Danny Mullins because I think he is clueless and he didn't give TTT any chance of winning but I don't think he would have beaten the winner whatever way it panned out today. |
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I have to disagree lads . A poor ride even allowing for the larger beating of KOTP ...Danny went to sleep off what appeared a slow pace , surely he should have attacked before two out , not just after the turning in , knowing your horse will stay the trip why would you keep it so far back ...Not for a sprint finish is TTT noted , more of a grinder imo...
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Mullins went to post on an even money fav. I didn't watch the betting in running, but I would hazard a guess that Vautour was fav before they reached the second. Mullins compromised his chances immediately by allowing Ruby an easy lead. You could say, 'well if Mullins though Ruby was going to lead, why would he take him on, he thought he would go quicker'.
Boll*x. Why would Ruby go quicker? He had been gifted a soft lead, and could set the fractions that best suited his horse. He has no peer in the pace setting department. Frankie on the flat would be similarly brilliant. Mullins, or his defenders, cannot simply say, oh well I put him where I did the last day but he just wasn't good enough. Its a different race, it was a different pace. From straight after flagfall, he was chasing his tail, and that is down to Mullins decision making. Its a huge part of raceriding, its what he is paid top dollar for, and he gets it wrong more often than not. From there, I don't think TTT helped him one bit, patently trying to lug out to his right, and suggesting connections fears before his win at Christmas may have been well founded. But I don't think he would have won regardless of that, the race was lost by then, but may have if Mullins was wiser to Ruby from an earlier stage. A top jockey will make mistakes, but he will learn from them, and rarely repeat them. Mullins repeats them, again and again. |
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The horse ran a corker today..... Nobody is disputing that.... he is essentially a strong stayer who was ridden for a non existent turn of foot.....by a jockey who has less brain power than his partner....the horse is a grinder who's going to be best served in a protracted battle..... It's just a shame he was too far out of his ground to get into one ......he got a bad ride at Xmas too by the way..,..and got one of the worst rides of the season in Naas....but each time the horse got the jockey out of trouble....everybody knew he was a grinder.... so why hang on to the horse for a turn of foot ......the fact that he is now being aimed at the Neptune just shows how pathetic little Danny's tactics were ....
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Being saying for ages it,s almost if Ruby has a divine right to lead if he wants,tend to think also the riding instructions for the Tullow Tank could be wrong,why not leave him go off in front and wind it up?Horse has stayer written all over him and finds,so agree what you are saying above.
Today not sure if TTT would have won anyway,maybe underestimated Vautour a bit and looks a right serious horse. While was sweet on Wicklow Brave for the Supreme that performance dampened that somewhat. |
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Winner did look good, really attacked his hurdles. It may turn out to be a poor year for the Supreme, but I still wouldn't be in a rush to back him. Better ground, and no such kindness from opposing jockeys(there was more than Mullins that was Ruby gazing today) will be a whole different to todays circumstances.
What I most annoyed about is that TTT now seems likely to go for Neptune. Have backed him for Supreme, and Faugheen for Neptune. Him winning the Neptune would be tough. |
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The thing is .....he is going for the Neptune more than likely on the advice of the litle man aboard..... and I'd say Danny wouldn't know the difference between Frankel and Joncol if he was riding them......Connell doesn't deserve any better....saw him on the telly today in the parade ring with the man who suggested buying mossey joe.. Old kilcash and luska lad.... Three years down the line and he's still standing for him .....loyalty is one thing.... Downright stupidity is another....
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He,d have a better chance going for the Supreme imo even though he stays so well and will have the likely good going,won,t beat Faugheen in a fit Callit,tactics were certainly wrong today,needs to race more up with the pace.
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He doesn't come across as the sharpest in his interviews to be fair,but has made plenty from initially NCB and has since led numerous investment funds including Rockview Merrion. I am sure there are plenty taking him for a ride while he is pursuing his hobby though.
The Neptune definitely takes less race riding than a Supreme,11-14's look generous odds to me. The English novice hurdlers look below average and of the top 10 quoted,I'd say 3/4 of them will line up. |
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Horses don't jump for Danny Mullins.
A lot of the criticism here is harsh though,it was a supreme ride by Ruby Walsh as good as you will see,waiting in front not easy to do although Brian OConnell did it to a lesser extent on Last Instalment later. I was fairly sure Quickpick Vic would make it,pretty sure Danny Mullins instructions were based on that premise. I backed Vautour and was more confident after they jumped two as everything was going his way,doubt if he will win at Cheltenham though. Silvergreaser constantly says its horses that win races but In Vautour and Tammys Hill cases it was the jockey that did the winning. |
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New Approach........ have a look at his ride 3 out on Katies Benefit when second to Dresstothenines, I`m sure you will have a different opinion.
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Before today, Mullins was adamant that he was Supreme bound, and certainly shouldn't go for Neptune. He is blaming the horse for his errors, and potentially costing him a much better chance of victory. I agree he would be better served by the likelihood of fast run two mile Supreme. And there certainly doesn't look to be a potential superstar in it.
If you **** up, stand up, say it, and move on. |
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He is a stayer and a poor enough jumper,little chance over two miles they will jump far too fast for him.
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Yeah I'd agree with that,I don't think TTT has the speed to win a supreme regardless of the pace they go,even though al Ferof and Champagne Fever have won it in recent years they both got peaches.
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Still all the same has the Royal Bond and that G1 at Leopardstown over Christmas both over fairly decent ground and 2m, though the ones behind have done little for the form since. Original thought of the Supreme was to duck Faugheen i,d say,very possible could be looking to duck Vauntour now. Slipped up by not given him an entry in the 3m.
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TTT has won two Novice Grade 1 hurdles yet not one winner has come out of either of them races. TTT is over rated and has no chance of being placed in any of his Cheltenham engagements. He was beaten by a better horse today, it's as simple as that.
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The last time I heard the Gotchee so certain about something was "a 2 runner maiden at Dundalk"
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