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tony57
10 Jan 14 16:05
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anyone got any strong view on this race?..im liking CARRIED ?..wont decide till later ..that's why im interested in others who have more knowledge of this track than myself..
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Report neill d January 10, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
Noah Webster for me in the last as well, will have plenty of time to get going around here so I'm hoping the jock won't be too much of an issue. In light of his recent hurdling exploits I'm finding him too hard to resist at a course he has run well at before. Given where she works, hopefully the jock is getting better too, like her mount.... she is bred to be!!
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
lay the 1st 2 in the betting,u will get 50% of the book(even money).thats how the pros play.any other play is for mugs!any of the 9 can win this imo.cheers and gl.
Report workrider January 10, 2014 8:59 PM GMT
Says the guy who bets 20/1 shots in his quest for a grand...Yeah real pro  punter , i doubt...Laugh
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 9:04 PM GMT
what wrong with u wr?yre gone very sour (yet again)since paulie destroyed u.!LaughLaugh
Report slickster January 10, 2014 9:07 PM GMT
Why would any decent punter have ANY opinion on all this garbage at Dundalk? Defies belief.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:19 PM GMT
50K my ar$e!

well played The Rat Wink
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
holyfield 11/4 to go tonight cbb.

value shot, likely bottom 2 vs Liz Jones, may get chosen to go despite not polling bottom.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
That was fast,hovering over the computer worrying about this race all night without having a bet but sweating profusely.

Ozymandius you are Night Train To Munich material.
Report roadrunner46 January 10, 2014 9:24 PM GMT
unexposed type won the race, as for having all the angles covered WMFB, its called reading the form, OP asked for poeples views on
the race, and gave my view of exactly how the form looked to me. 2/3 in the place money.Wink the winner was already rated
better than the fav.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
cheers ozy.a very well done to rr who knew the prices were wrong.u were saying wr?(a chump of an old fart that will never learn) and oh yeah   BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM1WinkWinkLaughLaugh
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
have you thought about setting up a justgiving.ie webpage to get to this 50K target? 

with an accompanying appeal from the heart...you never know.  No chance on here, Borneo
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:32 PM GMT
Laugh seething!
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 9:35 PM GMT
Most punting in Dundalk tonight won as I did.

Even if I didnt I don't really mind losing as I am kind of used to it.
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
He is right though,you hopped on the thread the second the race was over, very unhealthy imo, and  thevitriol to stick the knife in after,sums you up Ozy,you really shouldn,t be near the thread and better off watching your cbb.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:40 PM GMT
Most punting in Dundalk tonight won as I did.

everyone is a winner on betfair Grin
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
Your not and you didn't win in Dundalk tonight.

Do you even look at the races or do you sit in Madame Defarge fashion knitting away hoping for others to lose.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
Evander 5/1 now to go now PP, Liz 1/10.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 9:55 PM GMT
tbf wildman,i dont think u could afford rockwell,roscrea is yre best bet or maybe even thurles cbs.in fairness u cant beat a good alma mater,it gives u a good start in life and friends for life.
Report neill d January 10, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
No complaints, he was never in it. Probably needs stronger handling but it could be that hurdling suits him better anyway, he should make a better turf horse though with a bit of cut.....couldn't go the pace tonight.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
Is there a bit of your penchant for nictitating in that last post or have you being doing what you accuse Silvergreaser of doing all the time.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 10:01 PM GMT
That's to kingrock.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 10:09 PM GMT
BOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evander goesCool

WINNER 11/4 & 5/1 advised
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
give me that 5K Borneo and  will get those poor kids to Eton  (my terms 2% and 20%)
Report workrider January 10, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
I think you sit down when having a hit and miss. I think Wildmanfromborneo is spot on about OZY.....Laugh
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
one more BOOOOMMMMM...especially for poor Old Pa Lapsy
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
nice 1 ozy! SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!Laugh
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
Don,t be worrying about me Ozy, i,m grand, i,m not sitting down watching cbb.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
There is a logic in sticking to your field of expertise and Ozymandius does seem to know his stuff on these obscure markets.
Report workrider January 10, 2014 10:17 PM GMT
Hey Del , i'd say your , good as you mates voted him out , they take no ****....Laugh
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
oh be the hokey,the old farts are seething!WinkWinkLaughLaugh
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 10:24 PM GMT
I actually hope ye both won plenty.

Did you follow the advice Kingrat ?
Report workrider January 10, 2014 10:28 PM GMT
Hey ratty , your bosom friend  Del is more than an old fart , in fact he's so old MOC forgot to mention him recently ..That hurt Del bigtime , sure you must be as old as himself ...
Report workrider January 10, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
...I MENT  MOL...SORRY DEL...
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
calm down wr,STEADY BOY! STEADY BOY!Laughyeah wildman,i had an interest.cbb is not my bag but the ozy has put up 1 of these before and got it right so i thought i would take a piece of that action.
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 10:54 PM GMT
The markets were suspended on betfair at the time of ozy,s initial post,i,m not sure would a book take a bet at that particular time as unfamiliar with them markets and books relying on bf,s markets, who did you get on with rat?
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
Oh dear looks like Ozymandius was at it again and to think that I believed him.
Report workrider January 10, 2014 10:58 PM GMT
Looks as if he's been caught with his pants down AGAIN....
Report workrider January 10, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
Can  Ratty get him out of this hole , no pun intended Ratty...
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:05 PM GMT
jesus christ!ye are absolutely seething aint ye!LaughLaughLaughdo ye want to bet on that.Love
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:10 PM GMT
Looks like Pa Lapsy has caught the two of them lying again.

Rocketfingers put up the winner of a sprint four minutes after the off on the horse racing forum,was laughed off that forum never returned.

they probably are all the one.
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
Who did you get on with after 21.21 pm Rat?
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:13 PM GMT
ok old pa this is the 3rd i am calling u out,will u face me down this time?
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:14 PM GMT
a ton?
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
Bit vague there,what price did you get?
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
What are you calling me out for? bringing up your best bet thread?
What book did you get on with after 21.21pm?
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
what a muppet Lapsy is.

1. Betfair never even had a market on the 1st Eviction.  So no market to suspend.

2. Lapsy phone Paddy Power, check the times their market was open in the above market. 1000 euro donation from me to the injured jockey fund from me if they tell you their market was suspended as you suggest above.

3.  Apologise.

Simples
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:18 PM GMT
ah jesus ozy,i had him.Laugh
Report workrider January 10, 2014 11:21 PM GMT
Ratty gets out of the trap ...Its no wonder you lick up to the aul lad ratty ....He got you out of jail again...Laugh...Stay on his good side Ratty , he has over 50yrs of experience behind him...
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:21 PM GMT
Betfair suspended every other market before that, i,m aware pp and lads had prices on oddschecker whether they were available or not i made that clear above,the fact rat couldn,t name the book is the point.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
yre getting very bitter wr imo.not good.old pa thought he had the goods on me....the chump!LaughLaughLaugh
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
Again I ask Kingrat what price he got,the bluffer cant answer.

its embarrassing that these two feel the need to back pretend winners in joke markets,Rocketfingers will be on saying he got a hundred grand on in Asia.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
do u want take the bet wildman,a ton?
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
You said you followed Ozymandius in,how much did you have on and at what price.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
Have you phoned yet, Lapsy?  A simple phone call to get a 1000 euro donation.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
otherwise kindly apologise.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
You can beg you can plead you can argue with your logic.

Oh Magoo you have done it again.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:34 PM GMT
a ton will help with yre grand children tuition,not much i know but its a start wildman.do u want to face me down?
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:34 PM GMT
This is the third time Ozymandius has been caught like this,he is the cyber version of the pencilman.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:36 PM GMT
Kingrat you have run away from bet after bet here,can you tell us the amount and the price.
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:36 PM GMT
Nothing to apologise for,read my 22.54 post slowly,bf suspended every market they had at before 21.21pm,fact, odds available from two books at that time whether available or not as said don,t know,fact is rat couldn,t name i of the 2 books and make what you want of that.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
Pa Lapsy is too much of a gentleman to go for the kill,the fact is he caught the two fantasists.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:39 PM GMT
Stop stirring Borneo, you know well I backed him!

That grand is available if anyone wants to call PP and ask them what time they suspended the market.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
, odds available from two books at that time whether available or not as said don,t know,

Just phone PP and ask them.  Simple.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:43 PM GMT
You don't bet,there is no grand and the collateral damage is pleasing.

Poor Kingrat tells yet another lie but gets caught because Ozymandius was inventing again.

We are still waiting for the hapless Kingrat to tells us his bet.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:44 PM GMT
collateral damage ?

You do your dough on a 2/1 hoss, I stick up a winner at 11/4 and 5/1.

That's the bottom lineWink
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
No point in ringing them to ask did kingrat have a bet,they won,t answer you but you would be giving me a grand ozy.
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
Goodnight gents.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:48 PM GMT
The difference is I backed the horse,you didnt back the 5/1 winner because you don't bet plus the result was already in.

Kingrat gone very silent maybe he has forgotten the question.
How much did you have on and at what price.
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:48 PM GMT
absolutely hilarious,these old farts have lost it!LaughLaughLaugh
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:49 PM GMT
I am not referring to Kingers bet pa and you know it.  The fact is the market was open , you tried to claim that it was impossible for me to have paced the advised bets.  You are wrong, why not simply apologise?

You can read the Specials forum if u want further independent  confirmation that PP kept their market open late tonight.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
Same question for Ozymandius.
How much did you have on and at what price?
Report kingrat January 10, 2014 11:51 PM GMT
relax wildman.dont take it personal.WinkLaughLaughLaugh
Report pa lapsy January 10, 2014 11:54 PM GMT
Never said it ozy and conceded two books were on oddschecker after,whether odds were available or not check my initial 22.54 post again, rat hadn,t a clue what was happening and got so embarressingly found out.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 10, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
This is like Olivia OLeary asking the corpulent Mark Killalea the same question over and over again and getting no answer.
Like Paxman asking Howard the same question over and over again and getting no answer.

For one last time and its directed at Ozymandius and Kingrat.

What bet did ye have and at what price?
Report Ozymandius January 10, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
So Pa, the accusation was in no way directed at me, is that what you are saying?
Report freddiek January 11, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
ozy is the master at evading questions.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 11, 2014 12:02 AM GMT
I will make it easy for you.
I am saying you had no bet and neither had Kingrat.
Ye are floundering,ye are well able to question others on here but when asked the only relevant question you engage in this filibustering.

What started as a good night for ye has turned into a humiliation.
Report pa lapsy January 11, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
You very possibly did back him ozy,kingrat didn,t as he couldn,t name one of the two books and the boooms were in aid of heaven knows what but very probably small willy syndrome.
Report freddiek January 11, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
he just clocked what the boys in the know were saying on the CBB thread and stuck it on here to make himself look clued in.

not the first time hes done it.
Report freddiek January 11, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
post yer bet Ozy. yer man peter from the man utd thread does it all the time.

don't see why u cannot. maybe yer embarassed u only had a fiver on or something
Report Ozymandius January 11, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
11/4 and 5/1 Borneo, as advised here.  PP actually went to 7/1  at the death apparently.  it was an unusual eviction mechanism and I guess the casual punter didn't fully understand the twist and got burnt, hence the weight of money for the more obvious favourite.
Report kingrat January 11, 2014 12:06 AM GMT
look wildman!u did yre bollix,got it wrong yet again.the shrewdies on here marked yre card,but u just dont listen.yre a stubborn geezer that has never learnt.and u will do it again.lashing out at the formites on here is not going to do yre pocket any good.take a good look at yre self and be honest.believe me,it will save u money and you might even be able to send money to yre grand children to send them to a good school.do something about yre own faults instead of ranting and raving at the big bad world that u have no control off.jesus christ i should be a counsiler and charge for that type of adviceLaugh.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 11, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
There were no bets.
The relevant questions will not be answered.
They are both admirers of Rocketfingers another one allergic to betting.
Roadrunners only friend here is Kingrat.

Tonight has just been confirmation of what I knew about these lads for ages.

I lost on Carried but won on the night in Dundalk and did it with real bets.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 12:25 AM GMT
why would you bet CARRIED (FR69) when it has taken the horse 11 races to get a rating of 74, papas way(FR73) has only had 4 races and been rated 73. thats 4lbs better than the fav was officially rated by the handicapper on first ratings. evidence was all there in the formbook, that papas way was more than likely a better horse, and unexposed. my FIRST RATING THEORY, can be useful in separating two closely matched horses in a race.
Report pa lapsy January 11, 2014 12:30 AM GMT
Shure RR you probably had half the country on him after your bold statement on the first page that he had a favourites chance.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 12:34 AM GMT
doesnt know how to read form, just helping out with a few pointersLaugh find it very helpful not to watch the races tooLaugh
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 1:05 AM GMT
january 28th 2012

1st forceful appeal 15/8 first rating 84 / OR 79 on day

2nd titan triumph 11/4 first rating 70 / OR 78 on day

forceful appeal was backed all morning form 11/2 into 15/8 fav.

thats when discovered the FIRST RATING THEORY, can be useful sometimes. only reason mentioned the fav tonight in that race
was because usually the form comparisons will revolve around the fav, work the form in relation to the fav, not all the time tho
Report callitasucit January 11, 2014 1:13 AM GMT
roadrunner46  • January 10, 2014 6:40 PM GMT 


CARRIED looks to have a favs chance tonight


roadrunner46  • January 11, 2014 12:25 AM GMT 


why would you bet CARRIED (FR69) when it has taken the horse 11 races to get a rating of 74


CrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy

I have no problem with lads changing their minds......but changing it after the race is quite the novelty.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 1:52 AM GMT
he needed bit of confidence to lose his money on the favWink you thought was recommending the favLaugh
Report callitasucit January 11, 2014 1:59 AM GMT
RR, I can fuc*in guarantee if the fav won, you would have been on here boooooming. I will always respect someone who can form an objective opinion, back it, and stand by it. If you think you are right, back yourself. If it transpires that you were wrong, so be it, you had the belief in your reasoning and had a go. If you are getting it wrong more often than right, maybe then give it up. I have no problem with any of that. But you, you have never put up a pre race, pre any event opinion or bet, but consistently pipe up in the aftermath to proclaim yourself as the second coming.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 2:10 AM GMT
shawkantango ran a blinder the other day, 7th course win at southwell, thankfully had put that on all my different multiplesLaugh there was need to put that tip on here because ive told everyone one on this forum what a great track that is for betting specialist's
been laughed at all the time.Laugh ran in 57.84 fast 0.16 been told by time expert the track has been riding fast, dont doubt for
a second that person is wrong.
Report thegiggilo January 11, 2014 2:18 AM GMT
Tracks getting quicker by the meeting at swell,so I'd only use times from the last two meetings and keep track of coming meetings,i don't know what sort of weather the tracks been getting but presume its been taking a lot of rain.What you will probably see now is the better class races horses rated 80+ going under 1m40.0 in the mile races and maybe even the far rail not as much as a disadvantage as it usually looks.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 2:35 AM GMT
peters friend wins where both faster than tattings wins at southwell, ran 1/2 second faster than his last win and probably needed
that first run after a break. cant rely on the times, not that knowledgeable in that area of expertise, trying to learn and understand
course standard times bit more. hillybilly boy had beaten maputo OR 113 in the past. gl
Report thegiggilo January 11, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
You can't compare times of the last meeting to previous runs as the track is so much quicker,look at maakirs win there and look at iots previous 2 runs over 6fs that'll show you how much quicvker the surface is plus it was carrying welterweight 9-8 winning in that time.When it clocked 1m16.01 that was a real good time if you look at the times of the handicaps around the last 2 months,it showed he had improved for drop to 6fs and was a sprinter..
Report richters January 11, 2014 4:06 AM GMT
GOOD GRIEF.....ALL IM SAYIN IS ITS A GOOD JOB THAT THEIR IS A ceasefire,,,,,,,,There really should be a cull on here,,,,,,
Report CheltenhamRoar January 11, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
Classic roadrunner Laugh
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
FIRST RATING THEORY worked well today in the 2.05 EXAMINER FR78 / JALINGO FR72 after MJ won the first two races on the card,
had no worries, had already napped EXAMINER on the tipping websiteLaugh

winners selected at lingfield

outbacker (loved the trip)Laugh 1st

lost by neck wealease bwian 2nd

lucky win on swivelLaugh 1st

examiner NAP 1st

grey mirage (cover bets) landed on that 1st

swing alone ( had 1-2-3 in that race) didnt back it 1st

no bet in the last race, only the 5 winners at the track, two multiples on football / one with swing alone in it.
Report roadrunner46 January 11, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
then theirs the notebooks have put up on this forum over last few months on various threads, that ran today, going to have
to put more effort into writing out more bets in the future

GOODWOOD MIRAGE 6/4 1st

DEPUTY DAN 5/2 1st

SWING ALONE 5/2 1st

CHOOKIE ROYAL 12/1 2nd

APACHE GLORY 25/1 2nd
Report CheltenhamRoar January 12, 2014 1:50 AM GMT
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Report roadrunner46 January 12, 2014 4:05 PM GMT
who would of thought FORCEFUL APPEAAL would win todayCool only mentioned it on here yesterday, should of done the forecast
backed 1st and 2ndLaugh pukka horse over 7f
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