Thurles Monday

Cloudy Rock is a steering job

I never usually back on a Monday as a rule as its usually just bookie cannon fodder muck racing from England so makes a change to have an Irish meeting on a monday to give it much needed life.

Byrnes in the first should benefit from the drop in trip but surely if The Pounds produces his narrow bumper 2nd at this track to Band of Blood on his first run over hurdles he looks the proverbial ew bet to nothing if the tissue is to be believed?, best form on offer, Deise Dasher looks a potential fly in the ointment for Winters.

I was quiet impressed with Make a Track last time and they're turning him out quickly might just take a chance on him to beat the other two. Though I see they have been nimbling away at Rupert.

I presume there will still be many willing to take on Urano again? but I think this trip will be the making of him and he was still bang there last time before been squeezed out, hard to find anything worthwhile to take him on with, could represent great value after the race?.

Sterling Stuff looks the obvious one but I'm willing to take him on with Pint of Porter who if he reproduces his Navan run would make him a live ew alternative.

The 3.15 looks wide open but I'm going to take a chance with 2 ew's against the field in the shape of Provincial Pride and Kick Start.

Good Luck.

i am more than a little surprised about the expression of confidence about the mare cloudy rock, especially by 2 forum members who I would bet did not see her close up in action on her only appearance to date. she did win by a wide margin, back in November, I thought she was hard fit that day in kinsale and did not in my view offer much in terms of scope for the future. I would took the view it was going to take some time for her to recover from the exertions. the second has since won a point, but would be a 10/1 shot in my book to win any bumper.

cloudy rock is a home bred, her dam was also handled by the same connections and she too won first time out, and thereafter in her track career, never came close to bothering the judge. it could be a family trait, that the female side as best served first time up. she was a late non runner at limerick, where I think she might have struggled to win. at odds today less than 2/1, she can win on her own steam.

I will be fishing for fancy chances prices on countessa margerita, a good honest and reliable sort, who ran to her ability when 3rd in that limerick bumper, a repeat will see her bang in the picture again. she is ridden by a more than capable lady rider, Sheila ahern.

Sorry The  Gotchee , for only getting back to you now , went to bed just after posting that last night , Toner seems to be taking his races well , so not too worried on that score ..He has been running against better opposition than Rubert into the bargain , Rubert is full of potential but I'll be siding  with Toner today , he goes on the ground , whereas Rubert has to prove he handles it ...If its a fast run race all the better imo .....Urano owes me big time after clipping heels lto , ( was coming to win his race and had just gone by the winner )  so if Toner is beaten Urano will be the one that hopefully salvages something for me ...Weather is shocking up here , will the meeting go ahead ?...

ive followed kl..in,  the bumper got 8/1.. the rest of the card is poor..my only other bet is tyners..STERLING STUFF...won over fences lto ..but got hammered by the handicapper, for that so back over hurdles..not much of a price..but its a poor race..and i think he must be thereabouts..

OOPS ONLY SEEN   THREAD

KERRIEONVIC  LOVE SEE DAVY WIN AS THINK HE GOT BAD PRESS FOR A CHAMPION JOCKEY AND HOPE HE GETS TOP STABLE SOMEWER ,


STONEY EW

COUNTESS MARGERITA EW BACKED HER BOTH RUNS  AND LIKE EVEN MORE AFTER READING KEEN LEADERS EXCELLENT NOTES

LETTER OF CREDIT SHOULD BE OUTCLASSED BUT ANOTHER MINE I ALWAYS BAC .SMALL FIELD WILL TRAVEL WEEL SHOULD GET BIG  IR OUT THE BACK SO MIGHT JUST HAVE SQUEAK IN WHAT WILL BE TACTICAL AFFAIR


SAVING FOR BETFAIR DAY AT NEWBURY  FLIGHT/AND DIGS BOOKED  NEWWBURY AS GREAT TRACK AN VERY LITTLE EXCUSES FOR HORSE OR JOCKEY

That HOLY WATER has fecked up your spelling .....

WILD DAY HERE NO LIGHT IN BEDROOM AND COMPUTER PLAYING UP = IM DYSLEXIC BUT carnt spell itt.

Absolutely hissing it down here , was thinking of going to Thurles , but not in that ..horrible day....

HAVE SAY SOME SUPERB TIPPING AND VIEWS SINCE XMAS ON IRISH FORUM SO LONG MAY IT LAST            WHEN YOU NEXT GOING ENG RACING?

Was speaking to a buddy of mine who saw her win her point and would know the time of day, and he told it was a steering job today, so that will do for me anyway. Already lots of money for it I see...

Heading to Thurles ..will ring you tonight NORN ...

Interesting card as ever at Thurles....only one bet for me today........Sizing Coal....GL

drive on locky was tipped up here one day and after seemingly been a non jigger in his previous  runs at thurles and gowran,money came for it lto at cork,will certainly be interesting if getting a run today....

desertmore storm is my nap for today. His bumper run at cork has worked out pretty well and 9 days is a quik turnaround for the byrnes horse after running on very soft Limerick ground.
Good luck with all your bets.

Very impressed also with Sterling Silvers last run and is my bet today, you were right Dingle in regards taking a price last night,hope he does the other half of the business now,gl all.

cooper could be hurt there..?

I turned around , to bad ..Impressive winner there...

COOPER VERY LUCKY THERE

Well done Silvergreaser...

Nice to see Roger getting a winner ,Cooper tried to get up too quick and almost paid the price.

I see Toner's been taking a walk in the market...

the anorak wishes to point out that the Cloudy Rocks p2p rating is the joint highest rating for a winning maiden 4yo mare since Baby Shine beat the geldings in Kilsheelan three years ago. Richard Pugh and keen leader with strongly divergent views.....

Getting back to the bumper, I think the value E/W without the fav  has to be Cordelia Belle 11/2. She arguably has the best bumper form on show. She ran in a maiden hurdle LTO, her first run for De Bromhead. Back to a bumper today she has a lot in her favour.

a little each way on  monty blue in the 1.40 could turn little Christmas into a memorable day.

Nice call Silver.

Job done off to lunch...

nice call silver..juicy sp for  you.

Well Done Silver with The Pounds lovely price .......... Keen Leader when i said Cloudy Rocks Point form reads well i meant the snippet from the race "made all and jw, 3l advantage before 4out, easily went clear after 3out, stayed on well, v impressive" .

Hence i was interested in what verse point to point men like yourself thought . Based on your views he can win away at 11/10 .

Although the way the first two races have gone for me ( backed kerrieonvic and Rupert Lamb ) that might change

well done workrider with Toner ...Poxy xxxx ..... They are there to be jumped can t complain had my slice of luck on saturday

that drift on touner was strange...........he has improved massively, running in top class races........cooper didnt mess around there.........he took the initiative

somehing rng here kl?30 on here 12 on course..

Had to laugh at Kevin o'ryans' claim that toner is "tough as old boots"

Although,to be fair he's not as much a pig as he used to be (toner,not kevin)

Urano looks a cracking bet at evens here. Gun to head, I be with him all day against this lot. This tight track might keep his mind on the job that bit better too, be very surprised if they get close to him.

Started at a fair old clip here for 2m 6f on **** ground.

Well done Silver, nice price

regarding the bumper, trainer of Contessa is 0/22 last five years in bumpers, he does not seem to target them.

I think Beluckyagain is the likely winner with Blazing West a likely outsider with good bumper breeding

Faller at the last, money back.  Thanks Paddy

PT Enright would want a word with himself after that ride

Should have won handy,got shuffled back before turning in,by far the best horse in the race.

Had a good cut on him at 11-4 myself. To be fair to Enright, he saved every yard, until a sticky jump two cost him ground and track position. Very unlucky to come down, the jump he threw would have sealed it had he landed running. Instead of rolling!! Oz, the missus wants to know what you want?!!

only messing, callit.

She says she hopes you don't have anything untoward on your mind

callit i have spleit backed since yesterday..ay 9s on here for small money.was thinking of going in again at 7/2?thoughts?

I've gone in again anyway Kav. He will probably need to putt better tonight to win, but he knows that himself, so hopefully he has ironed it out in practise. Just seemed to be pulling a few. Dusty is far from solid under pressure, Webb likewise, and Zach has never performed well here apart from 1st two days this week. But he holed everything for 36 holes, so that will always put a gloss on a round or two. It cant continue, and didn't yesterday. The -11s and -10s aren't out of it, though will need help.

Do you have Ernst backed to finish last Kav? Home and hosed there. How the **** he won an event I will never know.

I have an ante post bet I am going to do. Just trying to sort out enough accounts, so can get what I want on. Personally think it a great bet. If you want in, send me a PM, I hope to get it on tomorrow, will message you before I strike my bet. I assume price will go quick.

Oz or Pa might be interested either. It a golf bet.

Yes please Callit,i,d have a little go off that.
WD silver and WR with your winners.

yeah, let me now what it is, thanks, callit.

Am a fan of Spieth.

yea ive yer man backed to finish last at 7/1..some price lookng at the quality of field.i went in there and bkd spleit  at 4.9...ive a tasty bet if it comes off.i also bkd english at 22/1 ew.doubt any hope there.id be v intrested in your ap bet..thanks.will it be tomor you will pm?..i dont on here all the time..thanks

If Enright sat down tonight and watched Townends ride on Rothwells horse he would learn something.

well done calli with urano and good luck tonight yourself and the rest of ye with the Golf tonight , didn t play in it ..

Caught between a rock and a hard place with this bumper horse don t know whether to go in or not ... Decided i m going to leave it ....
Have had 3  bets today   Kerrieonvic, Rupert Lamb and Sterling Silver .... one of those days

There is always another day in this game .... Good luck all who back cloudy rocks

Backed Mullins in the bumper myself. Not a fan of Paddy Mullins, not even an average amateur, but I get the feeling if we had never seen Golantilla, then we wouldn't be seeing such a short price on Cloudy. And there is no reason for that link.

Kav, if you want to send me on you mobile number in a PM, I will text you.

good idea..thanks

Hard luck today Dinglemick , we all have those days ..Never mind there's always tomorrow...

Studying this week's events at the moment after taking this tournament off.

I agree Spieth looks the most likely winner despite his inexperience. He has nerves of steel and his ranking of 4th in Final Round Scoring Average last year says plenty about him.

Had a small nibble at Gary Woodland at 40/1 each way. A quick start and he could be right among the leaders and he can really attack the closing holes if he is in contention.

Good luck to all who are involved.

Win or Lose no beating around the bush with trainer of bumper fav..

CORDELLIA BELLE EW

miss s ahern doesnt seem to have much idea about ground conditions sadly

Crazy pace the fav went,well done layers.

about the only right thing i did today stayed out of the bumper ..... Thanks Keen Leader

JEEZ KEEN LEADER WAS RIGHT ABOUT FAV  DEFINITLY THINK CORDELIA BELLE WIN BUMPER VERY SOON ON BETTER GROUND 

WELL DONE WINNERS TODAY GOOD THREAD

WD KL,If your opinion of the Fav in the bumper wasn't enough to put anyone off,i don't  know what would.

bet was laying fav...not backing anything.sadly for me i had a bet..fav was a great lay at the off at around 4/5..

wasnt as obv before the race.


wd winners.

Keen Leader knew

In Urano's maiden hurdle there was a few quid around for the Fogarty Portrait Gallery horse Samanntom. As someone said earlier the early pace that Mikey Fogarty set was fairly suicidal so the horse died three from home.

From an exchange market that offered big prices I noticed a layer offer €150 at 50's not far from the off. This amount stood out as being significant at the time.

Hard to know what to make of it?

Paulie , the greatest aftertimer in racing , for one so knowledgeable after the event , where everyone one is a complete fool in your eyes , i.e. Pugh , O'Brien , Ahern , etc  ..King of the after timers  put up your own selections Before the race and let us see how CLEVER you are , or else stfu....

What did O Brien say in his interview paulie? I missed it

You know on Mondays the greaser never refused a drink, nice profit today.

o brien just said he thought a lot of her and thought she would win..she couldnt win with the pace they set in that ground.p mullins knew and laid back.great ride from him really.there will be a good session in ferbane tonight!!

Thanks kavvie. Why was Paulie's post taken down I wonder?

Well done Silver,Great stuff,and a great sp to boot!

ARRRGGGHHH! Hate when they remove posts on here,impossible to follow thread when they take certain posts down

Snap crackle......with the air of confidence.....you'd swear it was Aidan and not Sean......for a fella that trains 2 winners a year.....it was staggeringly positive.......callitascuit is correct.....if they didn't hav golantilla then theres no way it would be as short......I neither laid nor bet it so its not pocket talk.......

Cheers roar, 1/1 money Urano the horse shoud've been something like 2/9 in hindsight I know, but I did say he could be a great price after the race did I not?. I backed it up with a few quid, lost a few quid later nothing to get too upset over.

What ever happened to that Cloudy thing?, I hate bumpers and to be honest I couldn't be bothered backing in them, give me a handicap hurdle or maiden hurdle anyday.

wonky......I hope you are not talking to me because if ya are then ya are wasting yer time......I have had enough of yer nonsense for one lifetime......so god bless to ya......

Just flew through the highlights there and anyone on Sterling Stuff was very unlucky. I'd say the same for Rupert Lambe backers as judging how near the 125 rated second got to Toner, I'd have really fancied Rupert to deliver had he stood up. Urano looked a reformed character there with being held up really seeming to suit him, I'd say he can take his winners of one next.

Probably a horrible thing to say, but you really have to watch these small point trainers trying to make a name for themselves and their horses. Sometimes having had a pretty good one can make them get a little above their station. They rode the thing like it was Denman so at least O'Brien was genuine as the market also suggested. If Willie sees that interview tonight I'd say he'll have a little chuckle to himself. The way he discussed the Sir Des Champs interview was top-class and he is a brilliant interview for everything except future plans for his best horses.

Is this meeting always on a Monday?, seems a strange spot for a fixture to me?

Paulie Peanuts and small nuts?, what is wrong with you?, pretend you have me blocked.

Is your intellect really that good?

You wont fight me because you know a good enemy when you see one (me), coward!!

Sounds like he was getting ahead of himself a bit so paulie, as you say he hardly does train 2 winners a year, you would wonder what he has to work it with at home that was giving him such confidence

The guy talks a good game and you'd need that. You'd guess he was going by eye and what he had seen with Golantilla. Brave man, you wouldn't want to be wrong like that on TV too many more times or you'll get a Clive Brittain like rep which no small trainer can afford to carry.

good old corky hardly covered himself in glory either.......there can be little doubt it was ridden too aggressively.....most amateur riders don't have a lot between the ears.....but one of the exceptions is Patrick Mullins....he may not be the most stylish.....but he is largely effective......and rarely rides a bad race.....
another jockey who performed poorly was Enright......that horse in the handicap hurdle should have won.....and shouldn't have been depending on a good jump at the last either....

very easily to be effective when 99 times out of 100 your on the best horse anyway

Neill D......bertie ahern will be Taoiseach again....before the next time Sean O Brien has an odds on chance in a bumper......

Yeah, you're right there Paulie. I saw Oliver Brady do similar during the summer in a 12f Roscommon maiden, but his yoke won!!

Its a right balls really as they didn't learn anything either with the way they rode  the horse( a mixture of brain-dead and arrogant)......thinking on it, if it was that nice a horse and it really wanted good ground, it wouldn't have been there today.

It may be true that some people know of Sean OBrien only because of Golantilla but he did have him and whats more he landed a very nice touch and sold him for a fortune. He has had about 20 winners under rules to date so I would expect we will see more of him.

WD Silver I see you had a couple of good winners today especially the first one and I notice you even backed one of Willies.

Paulie Wallnuts a Corkman who hates Corkmen.

What do ye expect Sean OBrien to say apart from the fact she is for sale but if he was negative and she won ye would scream the place down.its fair to say he fancied it.

The man told the truth and its still wrong for some.

Yeah, the lads are knocking them in at a fair rate. Martin is fairly raving about Golantilla in print but they are leaving it very late now to start over flights.

I don't know Wildman, if I'm at his level and someone like Willie Mullins has a runner in a bumper against me, I'd say no more than that she is a nice mare and she should go well. Today smacked a little of a fella who had a big pay day and thought he had everything figured.

Hubris is a b astard with horses, and he wasn't saying those things for the benefit of the punter, the price was gone, small bit conceited.

off out for a small bit.

arkle I couldn't care who trains them, be it Aidan or Willie if I thought it had a chance..

Paulie , you are correct , i'm talking to you , all you do is bleat , time after time , nothing positive to say , though when your breadwinner makes a balls of it , its all quiet on the western front ...So much for a balanced view...Everyones wrong bar you , as far as I can see...

workrider best ignore him considering he blocks people thinking somehow he has a superior intellect?

ignore him.

He drives me nuts with his , i know everything attitude , in all his years on here he has yet to put up a tip or fancy of his own , yet any time a jockey or trainer makes a slip up , hes on , telling them what they should have done , hes a first class lunatic imo ...Yet his breadwinner has been riding like a 7lb claimer these past few months , yet not a whisper from his brown nose friend...sickening...

if I'm at his level and someone like Willie Mullins has a runner in a bumper against me, I'd say no more than that she is a nice mare and she should go well. Today smacked a little of a fella who had a big pay day and thought he had everything figured.

Hubris is a b astard with horses, and he wasn't saying those things for the benefit of the punter, the price was gone, small bit conceited.

Agreed.

workrider I couldnt agree more, I'm not arrogant enough to block anyone I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have two options, answer or ignore, simple as.

Neil the meeting on every 6th of Janurary,its on for little xmas,well done lads with the winners again today,

Thanks, Huddys, I was wondering what the story was there.

Slivergreaser , think I'll let him blow his top and ignore him in future , I'm worse giving my senses to such a disturbed lad....

Think paulie is a very knowledgeable poster. Doesn't get the credit he deserves. Quite funny too. What more do ya want?

Good old Thickster , got it wrong again the other day me oul china , stick to tipping 1/10 shots on the football mate....

Ohhh was that the 50-50 race and you managed to "guess" the right one??? Ohhh well done wonks. Don't think we'll crack open the Dom just yet...

But you told everyone i was wrong , again ...