..........WAAHEB.................

Silvergreaser , I think 2/1 is a massive price ..Unless of course they Know something...

ud be lucky to get a score on at 2s with that crowd wr..then he would be evs

I like the look of boondooma 1.35..won a bumper last week won well will love this ground only worry is it may be too quick?

Be a bog in Mallow tomorrow,know Waaheb has soft form,not sure he,,ll handle heavy that well,some class bits of form all the same gl.

Thats the drawback PA , Turban's done it on heavy ....

Is that the one where he beat Fulton Tony, unless Fulton is any kind of a horse that looked a woeful bumper. I don't like Limerick form carrying forward anyway but if you knew Fulton was a fair horse than that is a different matter.

Anyone think Waaheb is the perfect horse to train for a Galway Hurdle, Weld would love nothing more I'd say and that 2/1 might be too good to be true. Not the horse I thought he'd be from his Bumper days. He's too soft to be a grade 1 horse, but he strikes me as one who would enjoy carrying a low weight and beating up on inferiors in a big field on nice ground.

Wonks firing another arrow at the dartboard i see. Another "no score" i fear

Thickster , your last piece of race predicting left you scurrying from the forum for a good while....

they have smashed the mullins horse wr..?neill, yes that's the one..i agree it was a weak race..but it did it well..and loved the ground?

neill
   its been well backed this morning..i got 9/4..13/8 now

Going to be a quiet day today

the 3rd fav is nr hence the shortening?

Yeah tony looks as if the money is down , still you never know in horse racing ...Think i'll spend the rest of the day walking in the country , Naas card tomorrow is a shocker , even though Briar hill is running , very poor fare ...

good call wr. well done.

Good shot at that dartboard WR, a bullseye.

LOL EVERTIME I LET YOUR TIPS RUN THEY WIN WELL DONE

Thanks lads , time for that walk in the country , for mature reflection ..

well done wr..im in same group as you norn!!

welldone wr..you show up the doubters again!

WD what grade of race did waaheb win today, compared to the two 2nds in grade 1 races?

Boondooma was 3s with Boyles last night. It was put up by KL last year I seem to recall

Well done workrider, didn't see the race as just in now. You've called the market right whatever happens Tony!!

Backed Defining Year e.w at 6s against you Tony. Bit disappointing last week, and 8 days not really enough time to derive huge benefit from the run, but DK must be happy with him. Slight drawback I suppose is he went very cheaply for a yoke rated 105, but this looks very poor apart from the fav, who although fully entitled to be fav is no world beater himself. Certainly  a much lower class contest than what he contested at Leop.

imo..davy gave that too much to do..(im proberly speaking threw my pocket)..buthe left it far too late..

Shocker by Davy there,nice position before turning in, and lost it,gave him too much to do.

Unlucky Tony, was just about to post similar. Keep backing 3/1 shots that go off at 6/5 and you'll be fine.

I'd say a maiden hurdle at Cork isn't foremost in Davy's mind at the minute. He could be thinking of the bills!!

glad someone else thinks the same....decent bet gone down threw poor ride?..thats racing..move on..

Wasn't really watching, but did he not just get outpaced? Probably would have been better off making it alright, but looks slow. Terrible race. Defining Year has obviously lost a lot of his ability.

All you can do is wipe your nose. There are pros and cons to the English and Irish riding styles Call.

yer neill but I backed it thinking the kid was on board taking the 7lb off that won last week.?

Haven't seen a paper Tony but i'd say Davy will be like a Piranha, he's a stright-forward type that you wouldn't have minded seeing the 7lb taken off of on that ground. Davy possibly over-complicated things. Isn't Cork a bit of a front-runners track as well?

That might be a fair point Callit,he certainly seemed in a good position jumping the last down the back,picture went off him and he was way behind.
Tony can,t believe you never looked at the jockey,that,s sloppy.

ahh well neill..lets see how the rest of the day go,s

pa I backed it early ..tbh im not sure they had announced the jockey change..but I never till just before the off

Avondhu Lady looks  a steering job. I would make it 8-13, rather than 2.48 it is now. In some situations, these chasers coming back to hurdles and looking 'thrown in', are simply better chasers, and hence are not as well handicapped over hurdles as their mark suggests. In this instance, it looks like the mare has just simply improved, the discipline not being the catalyst for that.
It took her til her 7th run over fences to open her account, and that at 20-1, so she hadn't suddenly improved for the switch to fences. She looks to have just slowly found her way. I would be surprised if she cant reach very similar heights over hurdles, hence should really be winning today.

Good case made, going to follow you in Call.

ive had one more bet..VICANGELONME in the bumper..ptp run looks ok..but poor bumper run fto..but its a well bred sort..i gota bit of 6/1..i did think it would be bigger..but its a good sign its shorter..

Girl in Blue ew for me.

I am against you lads on avondhu, not getting carried away with her handicap rating over hurdles as compared to fences...I think she has been refusing to win, plenty of others with chances including sherika, happy to lay at 5/4, these mares handicaps have a life of their own.

and for the record vicangelonme has never before run in bumper tony.....I think it is head and shoulders above these as long as the handbrake is released. been told hogans worked well recently, he is a hawk wing with a low strike rate jockey, rather chance tyners...his point form is miles better than mangans mare.

Drifted out to 2.7,.....topped up.

Great call

Very good Callit.

ANOTHER GREAT RACING THREAD WITH LOTS OPINIONS  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LADS

HAPPY PUNTING 2014

Girl in Blue runs inexplicaple stinker, Castlerock rose who I backed at Limerick over xmas at a big price in a poor race was suddenly much more prominent today to be just run out of a place, you just couldn't be up to them.

Well don call, did anyone see the jockey Dixon(7) riding for his mother in the last race at Newcastle, jesus, he must be as bad as there is around.

Silver,the brother knows Dan Rohan in Midleton and he phoned me and said he thought the horse would run well(phoned me a couple of times before as well with her) honestly thought she had little chance as she is very moderate and didn,t go near her, at one stage thought she was going to win but not for the first time finished poorly.

Wd workrider,I thought Waaheb looked beat just before turning in but it jumped the last 3 flights much better than the Mullins horse.

That maybe so pa but it has some decent enough form in the book notably a defeat of Kashline at Limerick, I thought it was well worth a stab ew in that race at Limerick but out the back from the start and pulled up, big step up just a few days later.

Be fair that Limerick run was her first since May, doubt very much he is doing anything untoward,sure the fella has just the one win under rules and it would be no harm for him to have another few.

Wonder why Ruby didn't switch to Cork?

Was wondering that myself punch

sorry keen leader..your right I misread its lto run as a bumper but it was a maiden hurdle..

WD Dingle, they'd want to get schooling down in Willies!!

Pa, Castlerock also had a couple of good place runs at Limerick, I wouldnt use first run since May as an excuse especially when it can run pretty close to its best form just a few days later, funny how it was shot straight up towards the head of affairs today?.

just a little warning for anyone backing the nicholls horses over the next month..he has given then there flu jabs..ive found(to my cost) that they run below expectations for a week or two..after there jabs..other yards im not sure.

HANS CRESENT EW 320 MUST HAVE DECENT CHANCE COURSE WINNER TRAINOR BACK TO HIS BEST AFTER POSSIBLE VIRUS TROUBLE LAST YEAR

Neil maybe the owners of Andiamos and Connaught Manor realise by now that the worlds greatest trainer really can't turn water to wine?.

the money coming on tyners in the bumper kl?..3/1 now..

Had a few quid on Playing in this. Fancy he be a bit shorter if trained by someone more fashionable. Very progressive over the larger obstacles.

You'd be right Silver, he certainly can't. I'm a big believer in the raw material as well, but there are plenty that ruin it, Mullins isn't one of those.

This is as bad a mid winter as I can remember from him in a few years in terms of Flagship horses getting beaten and/or injured.

WELL DUN CALLIT

Also well done here to The Gotchee talked up this fellow well after Limerick win.

Well done lads , a proper Racing thread...

You,re flying Callit fair play,a good racing thread.

He did, for the reference of roadrunner, that is what most would consider to be putting a horse forward as one that should be backed in future. No one can make anything of an exhaustive list with no criteria as to when and when not to step in.

The Gotchee called Playing to the inch.

To be fair,......Roadrunners notebook has probably had every winner, every forecast, and 6 out of 7 tricasts at Lingfield! I just hope he backed them.

Took a chance on Indian Jack in the 3.45. Would be prepared to forgive his last run, when backing up very quickly. Take that out, and he be about the 11-4 mark today. 7s looked worth the risk.

welldone callit..gotchee

Yeah nice one callit, Fa Cup bet my only hope left.

Any thoughts on the Arsenal match Silver?
Tyners very well backed now for the bumper.

vicangelome is still attracting doe?..for a horse I expected to get double figures for..6/1 looks good now..but still has to do it..

Careful you dont destroy yourself..

Haha Callit,i,m running out of superlatives,you are leaving roadrunner in the shade today.

wow you ARE FIRE callit..great stuff mate..

yes purpose..as kl said the handbrake has to be let off?

Pa, what sort of team will whinger put out?, he's notorious for resting his poor overworked under paid players, but been a north London derby the fans won't forgive him if he plays a weakened team against their arch enemies.

Spurs have been playing much better since the AVB sacking, though when Utd got the quick goal back against them they seemed to panic and were very lucky to come out with the 3 points.

I don't think I'll play should be a very entertaining game all the same.

My FA treb was going ok, Southampton 2-0, Brighton 1-0 but Grimsby went one up on Huddersfield, looked at match stats at HT, Grimsby 4 attempts one on target (goal) Huddersfield 18 attempts 6 on target 67% of the possession.

great stuff Calit, superb tipping.

Well done tony great stuff...

cracking proper racing thread, even Tony got one up, wd all

Well KL handbrake released,bobs down and Tyner collects,nothing new there,well done.

welldone kl..you knew it was miles ahead..

Good to get over the Christmas bloodbath.

Thanks Silver,you are probably right,ought to be a good game all the same as you say.

IM ON THAT BAD RUN I GOING GET HOLY WATER BLESSING  2MORO AT MY FIRST GRANDCHILDS CHRISTENING MIGHT HAVE  TOO HAND MY D U P VOTING CARD BACK


A SUPERB THREAD WELL DUN ALL INVOLVED SO WORKRIDER GET NAAS UP EARLY  AS YOU NO I NEED ALL HELP I CAN GET  BACK IN A TIC 230 WORTH LOOK IMO

WELL DONE ALL WINNERS

AR$ENAL  V SPURS BOTH LOSE HALF TIME WIN FULL TIME SHOULD BE GOOD OLD FA CUP DERBY GAME

all the best for tomorrow norn..call you in midweek..

I never back footy..but I think evens for arsenal @home is fair..so had a go

silvergreaser
04 Jan 14 15:55
My FA treb was going ok, Southampton 2-0, Brighton 1-0 but Grimsby went one up on Huddersfield, looked at match stats at HT, Grimsby 4 attempts one on target (goal) Huddersfield 18 attempts 6 on target 67% of the possession. I'VE GOT MIDDLESBRO GG+ CAN YE CRY THAT OUT FOR ME

Wanted to be with Arsenal as well Tony but Spurs have just one change since the Man U game,so a strong team,so leaving it.
Apologies for going a bit off topic as its a quite brilliant racing thread.

Decalec the FA Cup is not what it used to be when the competition actually meant something to the top teams, I remember the pubs back in the 80's (the days before Sky) been packed to the rafters even if you didn't support the teams involved.

You have to thread very carefully betting in it these days, having said that Boro looked like they were improving.

agreed pa...the reason it was a good thread is that it was racing people posting..no more no less..

SILVER I GOT A FEW £TODAY SO HOPING UR'S CLICKS AS MINE IS BEYOND HOPE

meade runs a half sister to harchibald tomorrow out of a bumper winner..mate of mine who is into his breeding thinks its a nice pedigree CHAMPOLEON

KISS OF DEATH

IM A FECKING BLINK

I'll collect a few quid if Huddersfield hold on, I've got many a kick in the proverbials with late late goals.

Cork a front running track ?
I never took Cork to be in that category. Is it not a flat,galloping track with sweeping bends and a long run-in ?
The classic front running track is surely Fakenham -a tight oval with sharpish bends and a short run-in.

I just seem to notice horses taking it up there plenty early and holding on Vubiant. Maybe its surface is tough to make up ground on, I could be wrong.

Was out yesterday just reading the thread now,well done lads with all the selections,just shows what the irish forum can be,

huddys,it's enough to make a dog bite it's own ar$e....