Best Handicapped horse on the all weather 9.20 dundalk !!!!

true lapsy , surely with 11 runners fran will be able to find some gap ( hope i don t regret that sentence )
How the hell did he drop him another 3 lbs .... i really think he has a stone in hand aswell

just seen that BJG ta , he was in a hack canter the whole way up the straight the last night and his previous couple of runs over hurdles showed he ll go through with it  now , hard to believe he was an 18 run maiden i think before his win in Cork ... Maybe they have done something with him ....What price do ye think he might be lads ?

He was 12/1 on the prices this morning on Irishracing.coms tissue,thought that would be little out haha, think the world and his wife notebooked him after last time,still has a bit of opposition and his running style you couldn,t take too short, plump for around the 2/1 mark Dingle.

good hopefully that might be reflected in his price then purpose ... shur thats what racing about and your spot more often than not when they are wrong in the handicap they usually get beat but its just i think this fella has a serious amount in hand ....

You,re probably right G Hall in regards 2/1,a bot is quite prepared to lay him at all rates from 2.5-2.62 for £1.99 at the moment here,always comes to a price though when you aren,t prepared to back him even if you think he,ll win.
No prices yet from the books and even though a handicap probably be the morning.

Irrespective of the result tomorrow night any handicapper who saw fit to drop the horse 3 lbs after his last run should lose his job as he is not fit to do it.

It beggars belief what he saw and what the rest of us saw.

PA
Those prices are just my opinion after having a good look at the race.Eleven runners as opposed to 13 the last day plus the extra 2 furlongs will be a help but i agree its one of the few tracks that the best horse does not a;ways win.

Beat me to it on the other thread Pa, nice win there with United, only caught the second half but they seemed to handle them easily enough. 11/10 at home against a team who maybe lacked the hard runners and guile to expose United's deficiencies was a good spot.

Will have a luck at that race Pa, (the horse has seemed a solid enough character over fences in recent times which is where I last saw him). I got too trigger happy for a while and I'm sticking exclusively to the Irish and the Saturday UK stuff plus a bit of soccer/GAA/ and the very odd Rugby bet these last 6 odd weeks. Gone way more selective altogether.

I've watched a nice few of those Dundalk meets and while there are a lot of (0-65's), I'd be hoping there is going to be a small enough pool of horses again and I'll be able to get on top of it that way.

I've knocked the UK stuff on the head but I was gutted to see Hamoody (who I've followed for years since his days as a promising 2yo with Peter Chappell-Hyam) of Dandy Nicholls hose up in a claimer last Friday at Linfield in a small field, on a sound surface against opposition he could pick up and carry on raw ability. 

Worse still later that evening, an ex Stoute horse (by Street Cry fto on AW)  won off a near basement mark for Jane Chappell-Hyam at Wolverhampton having been well backed.

I know well I'd ave given it all back though as if I kept playing in those races I'd invariably be betting against opposition horses I didn't know enough about. Just found I've been leaving too much to chance and was making oo many assumptions when getting involved in that kind of fare.

just seen this now..i had a good few quid on him last time.had good word.i assumed the way he ran he was not wanted..im astounded the handicapper dropped him 3lbs.does he think he cant win off the mark he ran ion that nite?his pulse rate hardly moved id say!!

just watched it there, he had loads left for sure and you could see he looked well capable off that mark even without taking into account his NH ability.

It brings home again how tight the jocks all ride at dundalk and at all Irish racecourses I guess. There is no quarter giuven and you can see why plenty of our flat lads do really well when they go ton England.

Agree with all of that Pa, the way I was playing had become unsustainable, i used to always put time aside in the afternoons but can't do that now so things had to change. really looking forward to the Summer now and the evening Irish Flat meetings. always loved Leopardstown of a Thursday evening.

Horse wasn't wanted last time.  Drifted to 6+ on here.  No chances will be taken tonight.  Will come down the outside.  This 3 pound drop is rubbish.  It seems to me every horse on 47 is shown on attheraces site as being dropped a further 3 in future.  Will get a 10 Pound + rise after tonight.

Opened at a best priced 7/4,seems to be money for Echua which given his trainer is notable, also can be argued he is also not badly handicapped.

Took the 7-4 myself Pa. Fran Berry could find trouble in a nuns knickers, but I reckon I could get this one home tonight!!

3 s was wishful thinking out of me lapsy .... 7/4 powers that will do , all duck or no dinner this christmas ....... I see ladbrokes are at it again only 11/10 .....
I think the general opinion on the thread is it should win  and if the only thing holding you back is worried about getting a run in an 11 runner race  , well then 7/4 is a very backable price in my opinion and if you are off the opinion that he has at least a stone in hand the 3 or 5lb " wrong " shouldn t matter especially in this lowly grade ....

Remember Inis Meain rated 44 running off 47 in Killarney during the summer of last year

Good luck

As if Millar Beach wasn't short enough at 6/4 they even trimmed it a little bit more to 11/8.

* 19 times on the flat (turf) plus 5 times on the all-weather without winning.

^ haha A very welcome development.