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silvergreaser
16 Oct 13 18:04
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Under 25 and you have to live on €100 a week, one good night out and you're broke, god help you if you smoke.

Job seekers allowance????, the biggest misnomer of all time, there isn't a job out there and if there is well get in line, there might be two thousand ahead of you, as the politician slumps into his cozy brown chair as the wife prepares his slippers.

These guys really are a million miles from reality, job seekers allowance my proverbial backside.
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Report richters October 16, 2013 6:11 PM BST
rocky is lucky he is 36.......this cudve spelt the end of him
Report silvergreaser October 16, 2013 6:21 PM BST
that link didn't work CR, but I get the drift.

Anyone on welfare is screwing the system, I seen guys today get a taxi to sign on, guys that worked all their bloody lives but are now helpless.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y October 16, 2013 6:25 PM BST
Burton was on ireland am this morning, she really ain't in touch with reality at all Plain
Report CheltenhamRoar October 16, 2013 6:29 PM BST
None of them are,So long are their not affected financially they couldn't give two hoots.
May as well just hand these under 25s their passport for emigration
Report silvergreaser October 16, 2013 6:30 PM BST
Premier they wouldn't have a godamn clue what Peter to pay Paul means,
Report Ozymandius October 16, 2013 6:37 PM BST
greaser,

out of interest, how many 'good' nights out per week should an u21 expect to be able to enjoy per week on the taxpayers tab, in your opinion, if one is wholly inadequate? 

And how would your fund this increased state expenditure?
Report Ozymandius October 16, 2013 6:39 PM BST
sorry u25....
Report silvergreaser October 16, 2013 6:54 PM BST
Ozy I'm not a financial expert but I do know if you give people less then they spend less, give them more and they spend more?.Do you think all the under 25's are spongers most of them are crying out for a job.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y October 16, 2013 7:00 PM BST
She was waffling on about them possibly getting a job in a supermarket [as she did for her first job she said] and it would help thembecome independent. She does not seem to realise these supermarkets will now only offer 20 hour contracts spread over 5 days [my mate is a manager with Tesco and uncle with M&S] so how you can become independent off that getting a tenner max an hour?? Confused Showed that she turned up on the tv without doing any homework at all and just trying to blag her way through it.
Also i cannot believe the percentage of people she said have got full time jobs from taking these interships they're now offering to those on the dole, her figures sounded pie in the sky to me.
Report Ozymandius October 16, 2013 7:46 PM BST
Greaser,

Welfare is intended to serve as a temporary safety net for those who face economic hardship, not as an economic stimulus.

Also if you raise taxes to pay for increased welfare, then there are less tax dollars in circulation, thus offsetting the benefit of more welfare dollars in circulation.  That leaves increased borrowing to fund any increases.  Excessive debt acts as a brake on an economy.

Welfare spending itself can impose substantial non-economic costs: discouraging work, rewarding government dependence, and eroding personal dignity

Economic growth is the only way out of the morass, and, granted, austerity does not seem like the best way to achieve this. However, alternatives such as inflation, stimulus (technological and infrastructure rather than welfare), leaving the Eurozone..all provide their own pitfalls and could be even more painful.  There are no easy answers.
Report timberman October 16, 2013 9:29 PM BST
Why give travellers with 8 or 9 children 50 or 60,000 in benefits every year on top of a free house...not to mention all the robbing the whole family also do.. whilst forcing honest young people with an education to emigrate??...social welfare should be capped at 40,000 for starters ....
Report silvergreaser October 16, 2013 10:02 PM BST
How much does it cost the state to pay for the huge increase in crime particularly robberies?, take their dole away and you create a whole new generation of thieves which is usually an inheritance.
Report wildmanfromborneo October 17, 2013 12:13 AM BST
Doesn't stop them packing out Neesons every night.
Report silvergreaser October 17, 2013 8:52 AM BST
Well there was an excuse wildman for Neesons/McDonells to be packed out this week as Moorefield beat their town rivals in the county final.
Report peckerdunne October 17, 2013 9:02 AM BST
Raise taxes to pay for welfare equals less money in circulation........

You will have to rethink that scenario my friend as it does'nt hold up.
Report wildmanfromborneo October 17, 2013 9:34 AM BST
Silver I knew it was the Moorefields pub so only skitting.
Great pub best in Newbridge in my day hope its still doing well.
Report silvergreaser October 17, 2013 9:43 AM BST
They done it up after pub spy gave it a going over its barely recognisable now, probably the best smoking area in Newbridge, actually since they done it up its attracted a whole new clientele along with the usual racing regulars.
Report Rocketfingers October 17, 2013 10:04 AM BST
Wildman is ok, he came from a rich farming background and mummy and daddy set him up in life by leaving him land which sold during the boom years after his building firms fell by the wayside he is making a living now renting farm machinery out at extortionist prices to his neighbours, but he is ok and mummy and daddy left him plenty of lolly.
Report wildmanfromborneo October 17, 2013 10:13 AM BST
Nothing wrong with farmers.

You and your colleague Ozymandius have cross examined me betimes but you have once again forgotten what I said that old short attention span doing for you again.
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