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paulie wallnuts
14 Oct 13 18:41
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firstly missed a solo in Tipperary........then missed the curragh yesterday........not that it has an absolute earthly in the champion hurdle anyway.......it cannot possibly win that........but is it going to turn up anywhere........

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By:
richters
When: 14 Oct 13 18:42
barry connell donating all our connors prizemoney this year to the injured jockeys fund
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 13 18:46
Not ready for Tipperary and didn't want to race him on good ground in the Cesarewitch?
He has never ran on anywhere near decent good ground(all nearly soft or worse) over hurdles and his only run on the flat on good ground was his debut where he finished midfield in a flat maiden
By:
pa lapsy
When: 14 Oct 13 18:47
Was due to run in the Cesarewitch but said they were waiting for another staying one(might have been November Handicap)?Is he out of that now?
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 14 Oct 13 18:48
ive a feeling our conor's prizemoney wont be much.......
By:
mushroom23
When: 14 Oct 13 18:51
Great gesture none the less
By:
Arklearkle
When: 14 Oct 13 19:34
A great gesture I agree. We all know how bad a record the triumph hurdle winners have in the champion hurdle but their overall record afterwards is pretty pathetic. If I owned next years champion hurdler I would not be running him in flat races at this time of year.
By:
mushroom23
When: 14 Oct 13 19:35
Champion Hurdle winner runs at Kempton this sunday Cool
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 13 19:37
The new one??Not so sure about the Sun Alliance hurdle form(or whatever it's called these days),I think the supreme was a stronger race
By:
newapproach
When: 14 Oct 13 19:43
What a class act barry connell is for donating our conor's prize money for the year.I hope he enjoys great success throughout the year, he deserves it after such a generous act of kindness like that.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 14 Oct 13 19:46
Is that the horse that just beat Thousand Stars at Aintree.
By:
callitasucit
When: 14 Oct 13 19:51
I would usually have been loathe to be backing a triumph hurdle winner for the Champion, but it is a better race now since the inception of the Fred Winter, and winners have been of a higher class than in the past. Katchit may have won the worst Champion in memory, but he still won it. Zarkander belongs in the top class, if not quite the prize pupil. A similarly tough type to Katchit, in Countrywide Flame didn't have a bad season last yr. Our Conor looks a better class of animal to any of these. His hurdling at Cheltenham was simply electric. Granted he will need the ground to be on the soft side, but they don't allow it to be any quicker than good-soft on the opening day, so it is of no real concern for his principal target. O Connell has a shocking record with his big money buys, but that has no bearing on Our Conors future. I would prefer if they stuck with last seasons pilot. Nothing wrong with Danny Mullins, but if it aint broke.......
All in all, granted his well being, he surely has a great chance of being Champion Hurdler, and it is indeed a superb gesture from O Connell, signifying all that is good about the winter game and those involved, who loves his racing, and ploughs plenty into it.
By:
kavvie
When: 14 Oct 13 20:01
paulie your some tool.our conor is absolute class.he spreadeagled any thing he ran into last year and is right up there with the best hurdlers.you say he hasnt an earthly in the champion hurdle (joint fav).. what will beat him?.maybe your just put up bullsh1t looking for a reaction.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 14 Oct 13 20:12
kavvie......its you who are the complete tool........im not looking for any reaction at all......think that anybody that knows anything about racing will agree with me......and I know I am right when you are in disagreement.......all im short is your buddy wonky to join your camp......then its absolutely certain.......
By:
mushroom23
When: 14 Oct 13 21:41
Yes The New One dj876, think he was over the top at Aintree and still ran really well. I'm a massive fan I think he has it all
By:
neill d
When: 15 Oct 13 19:42
My Tent or Yours for me, last year's supreme will shape jump racing for the next couple of years possibly. I think Ruby rode a blinder on the winner and it was possibly the best piece of pace judgment I've seen at Cheltenham. The tint when on to hammer Forgotten Voice at Aintree who subsequently showed himself to be better than ever on the flat last summer.

Danny Mullins is a massive drawback as top 2 mile hurdle races can be extremely tactical. The improvement Geraghty brought out in Jezki just brings it all home. In fact improvement is the wrong word, it is more allowing a horse to show his best.
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 15 Oct 13 19:50
Danny Mullins looks like he will fall at every hurdle/fence.  He looks so un balanced and untidy.  Horses dont seem to jump for him either.  The association with Connell will end in tears.
By:
BJG
When: 15 Oct 13 19:57
Think myself that the Supreme and Neptune were both much better races last season and there was plenty of cut in the ground by race time on friday too in the triumph to suit OC and hinder plenty others which i av no doubt exaggerated the winning distance. No doubting how impressive he was of course but cannot have him as CH fav at all. May develop into a worthy contender throughout this season but 9/2 now is much much too short, id have him in 4th in the betting as things stand. Has to prove he can do it outside of Juvenile company (pretty poor juvenile company at that imo), has to prove he doesnt need it soft and has the added negative of the 2 stone penalty that is Danny Mullins on his back this season!

I see we are likely to see Rock on Ruby and The New One clash this weekend which should give a line to the novice form from last year.
By:
neill d
When: 15 Oct 13 20:10
The one thing I'd have thought Our Conor would do was jump which is why I didn't mention it, but if he is as bad as you say BWS then that is another drawback of course. People might think he has arrived after that ride on mount Benbulban and his lack of ability isn't being factored into his price at the minute.

I'm not a great judge of these things but noticed the difference Geraghty has made to Cailin Annamh and Jezki clearly in terms of their fluency at obstacles. Playtime Ben who you rightly referenced earlier (I backed him 3 times myself during the summer) is another who has had some right pearlers given to him of late. That horse has a big big engine for a summer horse, he routed them in a beginners eventually and some of the ground he made up after some pretty brutal mistakes in his races before that tells me he is a fair bit better than his mark if he puts it all together and gets his ground.
By:
BJG
When: 15 Oct 13 20:12
The only horse u need to watch to see Danny Mullins' skill at presenting one at a hurdle is Anonis - was a horse i was following closely and he destroyed that horses confidence
By:
easygold
When: 15 Oct 13 22:15
Surprised not to hear the Novice I can`t wait to see again and 25/1 for the Champion UN DE SCEAUX  reminds me of Make A Stand. Very quick speed figures at Punchestown twice.
By:
kavvie
When: 15 Oct 13 22:34
while danny mullins isnt the best rider id put on our conors back i think the horse is so easy a traveller and good jumper i wont make a lot of difference.although id rather bg pc or rw on board..
By:
mushroom23
When: 15 Oct 13 23:06
He wont be such a good jumper when Danny is finished with him
By:
kavvie
When: 15 Oct 13 23:10
lets hope your wrong.
By:
mushroom23
When: 15 Oct 13 23:11
He could be jocked off by March anyway
By:
kavvie
When: 15 Oct 13 23:19
a not unpleasant thought mushroom,though i doubt barry connell would do it.i remember tony getting jocked off for jonjo off dawn run.mrs hill was no barry connell!!.big furore at the time but the proof of the pudding was a ch hurdle and gold cup.
By:
neill d
When: 16 Oct 13 00:02
That'd be the hope Kavvie (re jumping, travelling), Connell made a blunder both ways, jocking off Cooper......and then retaining Mullins (who retains a jock that isn't in huge demand, I know he won the Topaz mile for him as a kid but still)

I'll have a look at that horse BJG.

I don't know a whole pile about Un des Sceaux but I saw Kevin Blake give him a good mention as a horse to follow on ATR. He is Gigginstown, but would I be right in saying he is more of a hurdler? he must be if he is like Make A Stand. Too many graded races for novices at Punchestown for me and it tends to pass me by on that score. A right useless one of Willie Mullins won a Grade one in a bog 2 years ago, Marsonnien I think.....one of the worst Grade 1s I've seen and nearly definitely the worst winner. We've 2 many novice graded races and too many before Cheltenham especially.
By:
by purpose
When: 16 Oct 13 12:06
Un de Sceaux is owned by a man called Edward O,Connell.
By:
neill d
When: 17 Oct 13 00:59
Got that wrong, think the silks are similar... caught me out.
By:
by purpose
When: 17 Oct 13 11:50
Just remembered that Walsh rode in its races,wssnt trying to be clever i can assure you.
By:
richters
When: 17 Oct 13 16:04
martin harley to ride at naas on sunday
By:
neill d
When: 17 Oct 13 23:56
Ah no I get that BP, although Gigginstown seem to be looking more at Champion Hurdle horses than they were. A lot quicker turnover in that pursuit, almost as much prestige(just as much in my book), cheaper.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 18 Oct 13 10:22
Well I for one am itching to see Our Conor on a racetrack again, I havent been impressed with a hurdling performance at the Cheltenham festival since Istabraq was in his prime.

Hurricane Fly good horse that he is but he has hardly been beating vintage hurdle fields, how many more times does he want to beat his stablemate Thousand Stars?.

Unfortunately Darlan was killed but with the likes of Our Conor among others coming through the ranks we might have a much more competitive hurdling division this season?.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 18 Oct 13 10:55
just say the race was on tomorrow......ruby on hurricane......McCoy on my tent......geraghty maybe on jezki......and inside in the middle of them little danny on our conor.......now please.......bar it has a stone or maybe even more in hand......it cannot possibly win.......and people say its a good jumper......which it is......but ya will see a different technique now.......
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 18 Oct 13 11:00
Laugh
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 18 Oct 13 11:01
Different technique alright its called guessing.  Will all end in tears.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 18 Oct 13 11:14
Barry Cash won on Brave Inca beat War Of Attrition.

Our Connors main problem is he is ground dependant.
By:
workrider
When: 18 Oct 13 11:22
What was the point of taking Cooper off him , no need, let Danny ride the rest and let Cooper keep the ride ...Barry is good for racing , I would hate to see this go against him....
By:
silvergreaser
When: 18 Oct 13 11:24
Paulie really has it in for Danny, it remains to be seen.

Wildman how do we know hes totally ground dependent?, the best ground he ran on was at Cheltenham which was by far his most impressive performance. Most of the winters month the ground will usually be soft or heavy anyway.

When Hurricane met genuine good ground at Cheltenham a few year back he couldn't keep up, in fact he was off the bridle this year although there was more give than good, he eventually wore down the leaders who probably went off too fast?.

The softer the ground the better for the Fly.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 18 Oct 13 12:20
our conors main problem is not the ground......that's a load of codswallop......and what has barry cash got to do with anything.......what about all the middling jocks that lost big races......do ya not remember those......
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