Germany v Ireland

i see germany -2 6/5...surely if they are up for it thats a good bet?

Maybe , just maybe , the lads might defend better than last time Kincsem , not sure who King will play in midfield , but surely it can only be better that than Green  etc ..I'm hoping King tells them go out and have a go ..We just might be about to see a dramatic change in how we approach games from now on ....

lets hope so wr...trap was a stomach turner

GERMANY might play a few 2nd choice players so a 2/1 win might be a fair bet around 12/1 here,  ireland have nothing to lose so they might give it a good go.

The tickets for the Kazakhstan seem to be the same price as the Sweden game.  Good luck to the FAI.

I am afraid we might try and "express ourselves" against the Germans.  The 20/1 win odds say we are not Brazil.

The fact that we might even try and express is enough for me to be getting on with Kincsem ..If we get done trying i'll have no problem with that ..Whats got on my nerves over the years was Traps don't lose a any cost , sure we might get well stuffed , but that's not going to change anything , including our world ranking  .Lets see how King gets his players to play for him , a little belief cold go a long way to rebuilding the players self confidence , and God knows we could do with that...As we set out on a new journey , lets wish the captain of the ship ,  NEW IRELAND , all the best....

o.k lads germany 2 ireland 1 is 12/1 here,   3-2 for germany is 40/1...the gerries have  a number of injury players out also you would expect ireland to give the game a good lash so the above odds are fair value for a score each.

as a wise man once said you can never write off the germans

Hope we get Gibson and McCarthy in the same team. Stephen Ireland has looked sharp at Stoke this year and will be a good addition when he eventually comes back, hopefully a bit more humble. Throw in Wes Houlihan and we should at least have some chance of retaining the ball.

                            Gibson McCarthy
           
                Houlihan       Ireland     Brady/McGeady

                                 Long

I've a feeling if Houlihan is ever going to establish himself, it is going to have to be cutting in from a wide position like David Silva. It could work on right but there is no chance wide left as he doesn't want to be going down the line with his lack of gears.

Stephen Ireland; Andy Reid; Wes Hoolihan; Aidan McGeady; Darren Gibson

Any more flair players?

Stephen Ireland should never play for the country again

Stephen Ireland should never play for the country again

Really difficult to see anything other than Ireland get hammered here.

Totally agree with you rockfinger on this.

Rocket
It sounds like you want to hammer (Stephen) Ireland.

We'll be beaten alright,But we wont be disgraced like the Aviva debacle.

Clark and Delaney at centre backs probably they play for probably the sides with the 2 worst defenses in the prem, long night huddys.

One of those though isn't it, he shouldn't but he will because hir career profile could do with the boost of international football so he can get his last big move.

At least he has international level ability, I'd rather see Ireland tog out again than Andy Keogh, put it that way. Incidentally, the 'loyal' Keogh sneakily threw his toys out of the pram when he knew Trap was going. And Trap the man that probably got him his club contract by talking him up and giving him international exposure.

Pro sport lads, they're all out for themselves....and rightly so, plenty of lads put in just as much effort and are left with nothing.

Would like to see Clark and Wilson with an eye to the future even though Wilson is probably our best option at full. Hopefully Greg Cunningham can get himself right and maybe nail down the left-back slot in the next few years. Robbie Brady might do a job there too, he can play and sure wasn't Kilbane there long enough.

5-0 imo

Liked the fact Herr Loew seems to be a bit of a Gaelic Football fan.
Glass half empty for me also ,do well to keep it to 2 or 3.

I think the score will be "any unquoted" and I doubt Ireland will score.
But if we stuff the Germans 4-0 and then hammer Kazakhstan, and Sweden lose twice, we're there.

^^^

I think Germany will win easily but wouldn't be surprised if Ireland snook a goal from a set piece, Germany did let in 4 against Sweden and Sweden are no great shakes, I know the Germans were 4-0 up and almost certainly got complacent, Austria also had a few decent opportunities to score in Germany before succumbing 3-0.

Took on chance on both teams to score 5/4 with Spoils just to keep me interested in the game.

€5 at 1000 correct score 0-3

glen whelan - right wing
Kevin Doyle - left win

He should have picked Mcgeady and Pilkington, in those positions.

At 6,s on here thought the unquoted for the first half only correct score wasn,t too bad(basically means either team has to score 3 in the 1st 45mins) a small interest bet on that for me, possible Ireland will try and park the bus but an early goal might throw them out of shape also. gl with your bets.

AGREE VINNIE STRANGE CHOICES.

Truly awful looking irish lineup,,in for another hiding I fear 6to8 nil maybe

does anyone have an RTE stream I can watch from outside Ireland ? Id love to see Dunphys face when that team comes out.

Just for the record
1-0

We have them worried.

2-0

Ireland getting torn a new one from a Germany team, who in the past 9 months have been well below par imho.

Half the German public want Low out.

I dont really care anymore anyway. I can never support this team again with that disgrace (Gibson) recalled and the way the media & fans hounded Trap out and trampled and tried to tarnish his legacy.

3-0
I backed Any Other Score which was 4 goals.

The moron Giles ranting about "Jackie Codd, Arthur Cummins...."


Go and have a f**king lie down John you cretin

Noel King: "The 3rd goal was a killer eh"



in the 90th f**king minute


WHO appointed this clown

an absolute clown he hasn't a clue,didn't even make a substitution,would have had an orgasm if it ended 2-0 idiot

John Deleaney has to go after this farce of an effort.

was there a big drift on germany 20 mins before game time on here? due to way germans lined up !!

thanks was away did not see odds leading up to game

I can't answer on here, but the -2.25 with the Asian books went from 1.84 out to 1.93 from what i can see, so i'm sure this was in some way reflected in the match odds on here but big drift i would say no, few cents at most.

ok tks rocket was told germany went out in betting

Whether we are "expressing ourselves", "shutting up shop", or using "the high ball game" no difference.
Swatted like flies.  At least our goalkeeper kept warm.

Some classic king quotes after the game last night,Apparently if we'd have scored from the corner the Germans broke from to make it 3-0 we'd have all been delighted to be beaten 2-1

Yep played with damage limitation written all over it, yet Ireland had at least 4 great opportunities to score to get my bet up, both teams to score, but Stokes messed most of them up.

Stokes was awful last night silver,Now we can see why trap never fancied him.

awful is an understatement CR, but we're not exactly flushed with decent strikers actually we're not exactly flushed all over the field, hard graft often disguises our sheer inadequacies.

I haven't got the stats on hand but at a guess I'd say nearly half of Irelands goals under Trap came from some sort of set piece or a big long punt down the middle from our keeper?.

Did Stokes not make himself available to Trappatoni for personal reasons.

I see Uruguay are 50/1 (e.w. 1/2 1.2) with Sky to win W.C.. They will, almost certainly, have to play Jordan in a play-off to decide which team qualifies for finals. Assuming qualification, they are currently likely to be one of the top 8 seeds meaning they can avoid Brazil,Ger,Arg and Sp at the group stage of the finals. Worth an e.w. bet at those odds - I wouldn't be surprised to see them reach the semi-final next year.

interesting post Reb, Uraguary also have a border with brazil so they should have good crowd of Supporters if they make the finals,  its also interesting to note that Uruguary won the World cup when it was last held in brazil, [ can lighting strike twice]

That's right about the support, Frank. Country only has a population of about 3 mil but they have a fantastic football tradition. They are current South American champions and reached semi-final of last W.C.. Wish I could get some of that 50ew.

I couldn't get over how bad Stokes was technically for a product of the Arsenal academy. That said, he got himself in the right place often enough so has good instincts. He also has decent pace and there is less between him and Shane Long than I thought.