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oufies pal
06 Oct 13 10:54
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Interesting article there, not much good at cut/paste myself , maybe someone else can do the honours. Shocking stuff to say the least.
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Report silvergreaser October 6, 2013 11:12 AM BST
who wrote the article oufies?, might help me to track it down on the net to copy and paste
Report silvergreaser October 6, 2013 2:14 PM BST
Today at a sitting of Carlow District Court, John Hughes, a retired vet, from Orchard, Leighlinbridge, Co Carlow pleaded guilty to four counts of possession on 2 February 2012 of unauthorised animal remedies namely Detomovet, Thiazine, Omoguard Paste and Pentosan Gold and Halo.

The vet also pleaded guilty to one count of possession on the same date of an animal remedy consisting of or containing a substance having an androgenic action, namely Nitrotain Oral Paste.

Judge O’Brien ordered that the State’s legal costs in the amount of €3,000 to be paid by Hughes, witness expenses in the sum of €100 to be paid and a donation of €10,000 to be paid to the Kilkenny Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (KSPCA) .

A Forfeiture Order in respect of the products seized was granted. The matter was adjourned to 5 December for mention only. On that occasion, on proof of payment of the €10,000 donation to the KSPCA, the Court indicated that it might be disposed to applying the Probation Act.

The retired vet who does not own any horses himself, is believed to have sold and distributed through an underground network of horse trainers and dealers.

The case is the most serious doping scandal to emerge in the Irish bloodstock industry in recent years.

Nitrotrain is known to give horses a muscle strength well beyond their natural capacity. The drug cannot be detected two days after it has been administered because by then it will have left the horses system by natural means.

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I can just picture the Turf Club getting a huge task force together to get to the bottom of this, and racing journalists knocking each other over in a desperate attempt to get the big scoop?, NOT!!!.

I wonder is there any significance that the vet hails from Co.Carlow?,
Report richters October 6, 2013 2:46 PM BST
brother of pat.....
Report oufies pal October 6, 2013 2:48 PM BST
Sorry for not replying Silver just in from a match.Vet John Hughes is a  brother of Pat Hughes racehorse trainer as far as I know and himself a well known figure in betting ring at Irish racecourses.
Report silvergreaser October 6, 2013 2:57 PM BST
Pat Hughes brother?, now that's interesting!.
Report oufies pal October 6, 2013 3:10 PM BST
Hard to believe this has not caused a bigger stir.Anyone get Irish Field yesterday, was it mentioned and if it wasnt you would have to wonder why not. Or would you!
Report Kelly October 6, 2013 3:25 PM BST
Manufactured in OZ .  Whats new ?  Started it back here in sixties .

That the substance concerned is undetectable 2 days after administration is particularly worrysome .  How can any administrative body control that testing wise ?
Report wildmanfromborneo October 6, 2013 3:27 PM BST
Its on page 3 of The Irish Field with a picture of the two brothers.

A huge irony as these same two brothers sued the Irish Field some years back over a horse called Lanturn and received substantial damages.

There are charges pending Pat Hughes with the Turf Club and another Carlow trainer widely ridiculed here is also worried.
Report oufies pal October 6, 2013 3:28 PM BST
A ginger fella wildman?
Report wildmanfromborneo October 6, 2013 3:32 PM BST
Be careful.
I wrote about this extensively in the past and a drop in form of a certain stable coincided with a raid and a dearth of some containers.
Report oufies pal October 6, 2013 3:35 PM BST
Whoops
Report silvergreaser October 6, 2013 3:37 PM BST
Potential can of worms to be opened it seems, or will we have the usual cover up and deathly silence from the Racing Media?
Report Arklearkle October 6, 2013 6:57 PM BST
I imagine we will get the big silence
Report CheltenhamRoar October 6, 2013 9:14 PM BST
Shocked
Report punchestown October 7, 2013 4:37 PM BST
Elvis has a brother who couldn't sing........
Report wildmanfromborneo October 7, 2013 4:59 PM BST
In this case the brother got nabbed as well.
Report The Gotchee October 7, 2013 5:22 PM BST
Who took the prosecution and how was he rumbled?
More importantly what trainers did he supply these drugs to?
Can he be compelled to name these trainers?
What is the Turf Club doing about it?

This case has serious implications for the integrity of Horse Racing, yet it appears the powers that be are sweeping it  under the carpet.
Report wildmanfromborneo October 7, 2013 5:26 PM BST
Department Of Agriculture prosecuted ironically as he worked for them for years and would have a substantial pension from them.
Report The Gotchee October 7, 2013 9:16 PM BST
RICHARD FORRISTAL – 07 OCTOBER 2013

AT Carlow District Court last Thursday, John Hughes, a retired Department of Agriculture veterinary inspector, pleaded guilty to five counts of possessing banned animal substances, including the anabolic steroid Nitrotain.


The case has been put back until December 5 after the Leighlinbridge man offered to pay €10,000 to the Kilkenny Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals plus €3,000 in costs.

A Department of Agriculture official described the find as "sinister", and this is certainly a can of worms that has the potential to do real harm to Irish racing's squeaky-clean image in terms of policing prohibitive substances – a subject which was thrust into the sport's headlines earlier this year.

Illicit steroid use has become a consistent thorn in the side of British racing's regulators, with the Mahmood Al Zarooni scandal spearheading a raft of doping-related issues that hang over Sheikh Mohammed's thoroughbred empire.

At Dublin airport back in February 2012, Customs' officials intercepted two parcels bound for John Hughes from Australia.

After identifying an assortment of illegal animal drugs, the delivery then went ahead under surveillance, and Hughes' home was raided a few hours later by the Department's special investigations unit, Customs and Gardai.

He attempted to hide documents that showed the shipment was one of many, and refused to name those he supplied with the substances.

It was also reported that documents were seized during the search that listed the names and contact details of horse trainers in the midlands.

Nitrotain, which is designed to improve horses' muscle mass, strength and stamina, was one of the substances at the centre of the Al Zarooni find. Hughes' haul consisted of a quantity sufficient to administer up to 1,500 doses.

The response to the discovery by the Turf Club's chief executive Denis Egan was curious.

"There is no evidence whatsoever that anabolic steroids are in use in Irish racing," Egan is reported to have said, adding that the regulator "found nothing" in over 3,000 tests last year.


Yet, in the wake of the much-publicised Al Zarooni controversy six months ago, Egan had conceded that a 23pc cut in the Turf Club's integrity budget to €5.9m since 2008 – despite a 2pc increase in fixtures – left him "worried" about their ability to keep pace with illicit doping practices.

"In drug testing, the people using the prohibited substances always try to be one step ahead of the testers," he explained. "There is certain development work we would like to be able to do that we haven't been able to do. We have a budget and have to work within that budget."
Report The Gotchee October 7, 2013 9:20 PM BST
and there's more............................

It's hard to reconcile Egan's latest determination that Irish racing doesn't have a furtive issue with steroid use in light of Thursday's findings, and it would be interesting to know if the Turf Club was aware of the Hughes probe.

More to the point, if there is a list of trainers in evidence that Hughes is alleged to have supplied, will it be made available to the Turf Club? After all, he was hardly supplying the Pony Club with performance-enhancing substances.

Egan maintains that no horse has tested positive for steroid use either at the racecourse or on random stable inspections. However, Nitrotain has an unusually short withdrawal period of just two days, meaning that a horse will test negative for it 48 hours after administration.

That must be an issue of serious concern, and it renders Egan's assertion that there is no "evidence" of any illegal steroid use a trifle odd and naive.

In recent months, the Turf Club has been taking a very heavy-handed approach to small trainers' technical rule breaches and house-keeping irregularities.

The spectre of undetected steroid use is of far greater consequence to Irish racing's reputation. It's time the Turf Club's diminished resources were redirected to acknowledge as much.
Report silvergreaser October 7, 2013 9:26 PM BST
Egan is a disgrace and you know something he knows he is.
Report silvergreaser October 7, 2013 9:37 PM BST
Joseph got a weight rise, or sorry the whole of Irish racing got a weight rise because Egan is a pawn.

John Egan is corrupt and that is an understatement.
Report kavvie October 7, 2013 10:20 PM BST
john egan and denis egan arnt connected.?..you believe elvis is still alive silver?jacko maybe!@?
Report silvergreaser October 8, 2013 2:07 AM BST
Both are corrupt maybe the fugitive from justice in Hong Kong is stuck in my mind?
Report kavvie October 8, 2013 10:11 AM BST
you could us a lot of terms to describe denis egan.i know him since he was in short trousers.corrupt isnt one of them.believe me.
Report silvergreaser October 8, 2013 10:18 AM BST
We'll how about easily influenced then Kavvie, I know the guy too often see him in a bookie shop in Newbridge and is a mild mannered guy, maybe thats his downfall not tough enough to resist the powerful influence of the untouchables.
Report kavvie October 8, 2013 10:20 AM BST
your on the grassy knoll again silver i think!!
Report silvergreaser October 8, 2013 10:38 AM BST
Easy going guys are usually easily corruptible, personally I think Denis Egan is more of a front for more powerful influences.

The raising of the weights and the way it was sneaked in just before the start of the flat season was sinister as it was unexpected, Egan's attempts to justify it was laughable, jockeys can still do 8st4 and 7st11 in Britain but somehow Irish racing thought there was a need to up the weights for condition, group, and maiden races where doing the weight for any flat jockey was a piece of cake, now let me see what trainer and jockey farm these type of races?.

It was corruption in its subtleness form, and Denis Egan should not be proud of himself or the guys who were pulling his strings.
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