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Clare v Cork - Round 2
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Neil, in that Limerick match Kilkenny were all over Limerick only the sending off of Richie Hogan gave you's a semplance of respectability.
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Very young team, and I'd guess Davy had to be very hard on them in the spring to get the newer lads to the required fitness level.
Some of the goals Limerick conceded that day were criminal I thought Sil, KK pulled away in the end but they weren't on a different level to me. I don't think last years form was strong tbh. |
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Might have Munster but for some sloppy hurling in the second half of the Cork game. Probably their worst period in this year's championship. Cork might have won it but for a harsh sending-of in the Final.
It's been a topsy-turvy year, the top 2 teams from Division 2 plus the bottom 2 from Division 1 contested the semi-finals. It was a fiercely competitive Division though, if I remember correct, were there four teams level on 4 points going into the final round of games, 1 had 5 and 1 had 3. |
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Thats a very decent Clare side hence why I backed them to win munster as I thought the likes of Tipp and Cork were so so.
Who knows maybe Kilkenny are gone?, but I doubt it as their backs were as good as ever just that the forwards misfired this year if they fire next year only one winner. |
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Yep whoever beats em next year will win it, but I'm not sure there forward line has functioned in the last 2 years. Sheflin balied em out in 2012.
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Kilkenny will be back of course. On the subject of the backs I think Murphy and Joyce looked very good again this year. JJ is getting turned a lot easier and he's not a pure full-back. Does a job there but he'll be remembered as a 7. Tommy Walsh's wing was targeted a lot more on puck-outs this year and he was found out a few times. Hogan took longer to make his mark on games and even then, he was in and out of them. Jackie Tyrell does as he does best and bullies all round him. So I think Kilkenny will have question marks over their backs next year. They'll need players like Conor Fogarty and Paddy Hogan to step up. John Dalton should never have left the squad either. Their forwards definitely misfired too. Larkin and Power have big disappointments this year. Colin Fennelly had a massive dip in form.
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They'll give anyone a game from memory alone but yeah I'd be disappointed if this Clare side din't have their measure next year. Richie Power for me is the one who has the most ability and could lead that forward line. He needs to make the step from very good to great.
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SYT you really couldn't fault Kilkenny backs this year I thought they were outstanding as always, gave their forwards a multitude of possession which they failed to turn into worthwhile scores, but if those backs do exactly what they nearly always do and dominate their opponent and the forwards click like they use to do nothing in the other counties have that arsenal.
When Tipp beat them in 2010 Kilkenny murdered them the next year even if the final score board didn't do justice to Klkennys total dominance, hell hath no fury like a cat scorned... |
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Can't keep in the tide though Sil.....
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Yes I agree Kilkenny will be raring to go next year. Getting knocked out a bit earlier might also freshen them up. But they're getting older. They won't keep getting by with the same players. Maybe all the year's hurling caught up with them this year. Especially in the forwards. But also the backs. Off the top of my head Tommy Walsh was roasted by the Offaly full-forward and Dotsy O'Callaghan left JJ in the dust several times over the two games. I felt at the time some players hadn't prepared as they normally would have so maybe next year they can get that right again. I would say though Dublin are the team to beat in Leinster.
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neil kilkenny were not too far off this year even with a misfiring forward line, against Cork I personally thought they were rode by the ref, but anti Kilkenny sentiment will say sore loser, but I can understand, not another Kilkenny All IRELAND win, so saddle them up, and only Kilkenny play the rough stuff?.
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I'd still have them ahead of Cork Sil, I don't rate that Cork team.
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I'm off to bed my team Moorefield play Athy in the county senior semi final tomorrow, they beat us well last year and we hammered them a couple of years ago when they were the up and coming team.
Moorefield are much better this year with a new manager, Athy are Athy they're a seriously good outfit, both teams dreaded meeting each other in the draw, may the best teaM win!. Hopefully Moorefield?. Good night and sweet dreams! |
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Night Sil, hope your crowd win tomorrow.
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Could anyone tell me did PP quoted Shane o donnell for MOM? And if they didn't what are the rules regarding man of the match?
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Yes O'Donnell was named MOM and all bookies settle on the Sunday Game choice or in this case Saturday game.
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Yes O'Donnell was named MOM and all bookies settle on the Sunday Game choice or in this case Saturday game.
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Have to agree with the assesment of JBM. What an absolute class act. Plenty of winning managers have moaned about Refs etc in victory this year (Davy Fitz, Jim Gavin...) What a man Murphy is (He always was, no wonder the Rebels love him). No moaning, no excuses, no passing the buck.....
A better loser than many have shown themselves winners this year. |
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tactically,fitz blew jbm away over both games,the little bollix!
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Last May, Clare were a best priced 25/1 to win 2013 All Irel with PP. Now 10/3 with same firm to win 2014 contest. Incredible transformation.
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i know a lad had a grand at 20/1.another grand at 14/1..he owes donovan a pint or two!!
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^^^^translation,some geezer sitting on a bar stool beside the kav,says hes going to have a 5er on for the craic.
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Can't remember who it was but one of the hurling pundits on Matt Cooper's Today FM show tipped up Clare to win the All Irel last April/May time. Perhaps Matt will replay the comments in tomorrow's review.
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Anyone who attended the 4 Senior Championship Quarter Finals today in Kilkenny will realise that Kilkenny won't be winning an All Ireland anytime soon.
Nothing coming through at all. Lean years ahead. |