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By:
RavishingRickRude
When: 30 Sep 13 17:52
Are you one of those who swings the crutches whilst you walk too Tony? Squeezing the English state for every penny?

Im ok for dough, so much so that if i had been walking past my local independent when a horse that was generally 16s was on their mythical board at 33/1 id have been able to put my hands in my pocket and pull out some cash. Excited
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 17:52
I didn't know you liked that show rat?
By:
kingrat
When: 30 Sep 13 17:57
do the decent thing tony and admit u were lying and the forum will forgive u and forget all about it,what do u say eh?Wink
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 17:59
what a childish boy you are..you know nothing of the horses price on the 4th of july?..its only turned 16 on the 23 rd of this month you fool..you haven't a clue what you're talking about yet still chat ****..i don't need to justify how I spend my doe..but I,ll let you into a secret..there are people on here who know my financial status...I,ll give you a clue..i don't get any money from the state....and I have kids ...I go racing 2-3 times a month..oh by the way I just done a review of a jumps book for a friend of mine who is a journalist..his book has just come out..i put it on the site if your interested..?
By:
RavishingRickRude
When: 30 Sep 13 18:01
Follow his daily tips here, this is what happens when he puts them up pre race. He likes to stick to 1st or 2nd favs i think.

http://sbbcolumns.co.uk/matos-quick-picks/
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 18:01
rat thanks for the offer mate..do know what? you do have a hart inside that blackness mateLovebut im sorry to say im just to honest for my own good rat...I haveto go now got a bet in the last..take care ratty..
By:
kingrat
When: 30 Sep 13 18:02
ffsLaughLaughLaughthink of yre city tony,it has enough of a bad rep with out u adding to it.Shocked
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 18:03
boring ken dod..I put that up myself 3-4 months ago..what a knobhead you are..grow up you child..go play with your Tonka toys..
By:
RavishingRickRude
When: 30 Sep 13 18:03
Whats the fact you have written a review (advert/publicity) of a book that sells very few copies compared to its market rivals got to do with you telling constant lies Tony?

Well done with the kids, she must get a few quid for them though? stick it behind the indies counter soft lad Cool
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 18:04
funny rat...I thought you liked lime st?
By:
RavishingRickRude
When: 30 Sep 13 18:04
What you betting Tony?
By:
workrider
When: 30 Sep 13 18:05
Coming from you Ratty thats a classic ....The guy who talks in thousands , yet when it comes to paying up runs like his name from a sinking ship ...Laugh...RRR , i can assure you tony don't wear track suit bottoms ..He freely admits he's not a big punter , so no big deal , ..As a person who had never met me before in his life , he could not have been any kinder when we did meet last april ..In fact i'd say he'd make you proud  hes English...
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 18:15
thanks wr..but ive no problem with them thinking what they want..you and norn know who or what I am..oh by the way ken dodd..it was beat I done henrys girl..you see im honest I don't need to make myself look or be something im not.., it a sad day when you are given a hard time for being honest..and you get a hard time if you put up a loser or 2..yet the so called barrackers never put a tip up...hypocritical..but that's nothing new on here..
By:
kingrat
When: 30 Sep 13 18:15
i am not interested in a character reference from an old fart of a fool.i have got this geezer tony well sussed.hes clueless with his tips,an after timer and now a proven liar.
By:
workrider
When: 30 Sep 13 18:19
Ratty i really think you should have a good look at yourself , maybe it might highlight a reality check....
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 18:19
of course rat...of course...may I apologize to those who came on here wanting to talk about horses..im sorry to say iam to blame for this crap also by answering these 2 fools..but ive said enough...
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 30 Sep 13 18:46
id never thought id say it........but it looks like there is a new pretender to the crown........for being the biggest ape on here......it really is 11/10 yer choice.......and 10/1 the draw.......twould be some battle between the two of them........
By:
kavvie
When: 30 Sep 13 18:52
if workrider says tony is ok that will do me.i was also there last apr and was to meet the both of the,sorry i didnt but from speqaking to wr i know tony is a sound man,workrider forgot more about horses than the rest of ye will ever know..fact
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 30 Sep 13 18:56
he woulnt know mount benbulben.........from mount kilimanjaro........he might know more than u kavvie.......but that's no boast.....
By:
kavvie
When: 30 Sep 13 18:59
pulie your getting too much iranian ...id say ur walking round like john wayne after he doing a job on u..
By:
frankalsoran60
When: 30 Sep 13 19:04
SIMONSIG FORM

E    RACE CONDITIONS    WGT    RACE OUTCOME    JOCKEY    OR    TS    RPR
Video    12Mar13       Chl 16Sft C1ChG1 85K    11-7    1/7 (2¼L Baily Green 11-7) 8/15F    Barry Geraghty    160    *    *
Video    27Dec12       Kem 16Hy C1NvChG2 13K    11-8    1/5 (35L Hinterland 10-11) 1/6F    Barry Geraghty    —    *    *
Video    21Dec12       Asc 19Hy C1NvChG2 19K    11-0    1/5 (49L Sulpius 11-0) 2/9F    Barry Geraghty    —    *    *
Video    14Apr12       Ain 20Gd C1NvHG2 28K    11-4    1/10 (15L Super Duty 11-4) 4/9F    Barry Geraghty    157    *    *
Video    14Mar12       Chl 21Gd C1NvHG1 56K    11-7    1/17 (7L Felix Yonger 11-7) 2/1F    Barry Geraghty    148    *    *
Video    15Feb12       Kel 18GS C2H 9K    11-2    1/6 (2¼L Knockara Beau 11-2) 2/7F    Barry Geraghty    146    *    *
Video    02Dec11       San 20GS C1NvHG2 12K    11-7    2/7 (2¾L Fingal Bay 11-7) 7/2    Barry Geraghty    —    *    *
Video    18Nov11       Asc 20Gd C3NvH 5K    10-12    1/9 (11L Brass Tax 10-12) 1/5F    Barry Geraghty    —    *    *
Video    25Apr11       Fai 18Gd NHF 25K    11-7    1/16 (13L Kandinski 11-7) 11/4F    Mr C Cully    —    *    *
No Video    09Apr11       Lim 24Gd PTP    12-0    1/6 (20L An Fear Aitiuil 12-0) 4/6F    Derek O'Connor    —    *    *
No Video    03Apr11       Csg 24Y/Sft PTP    12-0    F/12 (Wantanamoe Bay 12-0) 2/1F    C Cully    —    *    *
No Video    12Feb11       Krk 24Sft PTP    12-0    1/15 (¾L Ballywatt 12-0) 5/2    C Cully    —    *    *

HIS FORM SHOULD MAKES FOR GOOD READING
By:
workrider
When: 30 Sep 13 19:09
Laugh Kavvie...
By:
richters
When: 30 Sep 13 19:18
pass no remarks on wingnuts he has just spent the day drinking cans of super tenants around the corner from the welcome inn on the gallowgates,he hitched a lift over to the crystal bell in glasgow x and got his lunch on offer at 1.75 and had enough to do a 10p ew lucky 15 in the adjoining hills......just an average day in the life of a wingnut....paulie wingnut to be precise......
By:
dj876
When: 30 Sep 13 19:50
One poster informs us of a list of Simonsig's runs and another informs us of a rumour that Simonsig scoped badly after the Arkle even though it has been on record in every Nicky Henderson interview for the last 6 months.Thank god we have the Irish forum to get the inside line.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 30 Sep 13 19:55
the irish forum fedapes cup top 5 seeds are........
1. wonks.....
2. tony......
3. kavvie.....
4. richters.....
5. huddys.......
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 30 Sep 13 20:05
by the way......noel meade interviewed in Roscommon today.......thinking of aiming curley bill at the champion hurdle......looks like hes going to go there.......without another run.......
By:
richters
When: 30 Sep 13 20:12
will you head to the london road tavern for the game tommorow night wingnuts,i hear there doing 2 cans of super tenants for the price of wan.....
By:
Distant View
When: 30 Sep 13 21:10
Not read the whole thread (at end of page 1)but will do so in a minute.

However if an independent bookmaker was 33/1, would it not have been easier to go to the bank, with draw some money and use that to take the 33/1 rather than accept 5 points lower and have a card marked with 365?

Unless of course the bookmaker is located a long way from a bank machine (distinctly possible given some of the places I went to in Becontree and around Romford a few years ago) or the bookmaker will not accept bets from you?
By:
tony57
When: 30 Sep 13 22:28
distant it was not a case of that it was a automatic reaction from me to go to 365..the independent (dave pluck ltd)would only accept 20e/w anyway..(I did not tell 365 this)as used this to my advantage when asking for a price with 365..in the end I only got 30e/w at that price..as ive said the horse was still 20s up to last week I put my bet on 7 wks ago!it seems 2-3 independents were going 33/1 for small money on request ..
By:
kavvie
When: 30 Sep 13 22:33
dj i dont be eagerly awaiting every nh interview with bated breath.ill be listening from now on as  anything he says is worth listening to.he never ran since the arkle so i didnt pass any remarks.i was merely repeating what i heard at the time.wasnt aware that it was so well known.i bow to your greater knowledge of all things nh!!?
By:
Distant View
When: 30 Sep 13 23:12
Fair enough Tony.

You done yourself out of 100 on the win part through this method but more importantly if I thought I could get a bet on in cash at the same price as with an internet bookmakers, I would always do it as the last thing you want is a paper trail of activity that they can monitor. If I am getting a better price for cash than it is a complete no brainer.

He is a very well regarded horse alright and won very nicely on debut. I seriously doubt that he will be the prices you mentioned after his first couple of runs as you are foretelling a scenario where we are about to witness one of the best novices in the past 25 years if those consecutive price cuts are to be believed. He is surely not as good as Sweet Wake!!!
By:
tony57
When: 01 Oct 13 10:28
fair point distant,.....as you say im foretelling what I believe will happen..but he could flop on debut!..thats racing I just went with what the normal betting will react to a Henderson novice winning on debut and then maybe winning in listed or graded company?..i make no judgement that he is anywhere near sweet wake..!i was just playing out a scenario..that may or may not happen..there are lots of decent looking novices this season..im looking forward to EMPIRICAL, REGAL ENCORE,etc..never mind what mullins has he,ll have a big say now he,s coming over..
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 01 Oct 13 10:37
tony.......leave it out will ya.......sweet wake was a dud.......but obviously ya never heard of him......as for mullins.......he'll hav a big say now hes coming over........whats that supposed to mean.......
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 01 Oct 13 13:12
Benefeciant...
By:
gutfeeling
When: 02 Oct 13 01:12
Think this is what Tony was referring to Paulie,Seems weekend raids could become weekday if he goes for the satellite yard.
Wonder who'd run the day to day stuff for him though and would he be spreading himself a bit thin trying to cover both the UK and Irish stuff.



http://www.cheltenham-festival.co.uk/2013-09-03/willie-mullins-to-launch-regular-raids-on-the-uk-this-season.php
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 02 Oct 13 12:03
gutfeeling........from what I read.........there is no satellite yard........or nor were there ever going to be......mullins will have runners at the big tracks.......that's all.......
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 02 Oct 13 13:12
Back to the topic lads......

Un De Sceaux looks really exciting but it's gonna be tough for him come the second half of the season when he has to run in the Grade 1 & 2's.

Simonsig looks all over the winner of the King George for me, even Sprinter Sacre can't keep up with him on the gallops at Seven Barrows - It takes an incredible horse to win an Arkle when only half right!

Bobs Worth still very much the horse to beat on the Cheltenham Gold Cup front. If he stays sound, he goes unbeaten all season I reckon.

Rebel Fitz already looks a contender for the Arkle, altho he's unlikely to run much once the ground gets winter soft. I think Champagne Fever could be even better over fences but he does have the tendency to throw in a bad run. Theres no way he goes for the RSA.

Agree with post regarding West Wizard, Geraghty was sweet on him last season too.

I think Faugheen could be very exciting on the novice hurdle scene.

And to finish off with the best of them all, Hurricane Fly. Really can't wait for the first head-to-head with Our Conor and really think Hurricane will show why he is the best since Istabraq. How he's not clear favourite in the Champion Hurdle betting after all he has done, I really don't know!

Potentially the best season we've had in a long time!
By:
gutfeeling
When: 02 Oct 13 13:41
Think the topic was horses who will fail to make the big time.
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