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roadrunner46
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pedigree (values)

royal lodge

KINGFISHER 916
ENSURING 915
WASHAAR 894
YUFTEN 892
BUNKER 883
BERKSHIRE 872
FISCAL FOCUS 870
SIR JACK LAYDEN 866
SOMEWHAT 840

cheveley park

JOYEUSE 919
RIZEENA 898
KIYOSHI 892
PRINCESS NOOR 892
ALUTIQ 889
COME TO HEEL 886
LUCKY KRISTALE 872
RED LADY 872
DOROTHY B 869
VORDA 866

sun chariot stakes

SAY 920
BEATRICE AURORO 915
CHIGUN 910
LA COLLINA 909
INTERGRAL 903
JUST THE JUDGE 891
ELUSIVE KATE 890
PURR ALONG 869
SKY LANTERN 868
MAUREEN 862
DUNTLE 854
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Report snap crackle and pop September 26, 2013 11:23 AM BST
What are the numbers representing?
Report roadrunner46 September 26, 2013 12:08 PM BST
numbers represent the pedigree value of the horses = all the sires top rated progeny

example GALILEO 530 = add 3 sires from the dam side = 393 (WONDERFULLY 923)

only 16 top rated pedigree values have won this year form 123 races and 3 lowest rated have won.
sometimes more informative then most of the time.
Report roadrunner46 September 26, 2013 12:19 PM BST
oh so sharp stakes

RADIATOR 906
STEALTH MISSILE 903
MISS FRANCE 897
SUITE 897
LIGHTENING THUNDER 883
SLEEPY SIOUX 879
GOWN 878
MIDNIGHT ANGEL 856
SWEET ACCLAIM 844

joel stakes

GUEST OF HONOUR 899
SOFT FALLING RAIN 898
BOOM AND BUST 896
MONTIRIDGE 885
PENITENT 853
PREMIO LOCO 820
GLORY AWAITS 813

shadwell fillies mile

WONDERFULLY 923
SOUND REFLECTION 906
CHRISELLIAM 900
RIZEENA 898
IHTIMAL 896
AVENUE GABRIAL 890
BALLYBACK QUEEN 886
UCHENNA 862
Report roadrunner46 September 26, 2013 1:52 PM BST
tattersalls stakes today

SILENT BULLET 923
MAWFOOR 902
CABLE BAY 898
GOD WILLING 891
CHAMPIONSHIP 890
BRAZOS 872
NEZAR 866
MIRACLE OF MEDINAH 824
Report pa lapsy September 28, 2013 2:40 PM BST
Impressive win for Vorda in the cheverly, looks a very live guineas contender.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y September 28, 2013 2:42 PM BST
Confused i'm absolutely puzzled here
Report silvergreaser September 28, 2013 2:48 PM BST
I'm not exactly sure whats going on here myself, in the Royal Lodge Kingfisher is by easily the best sire of the 5 runners and finished a well beaten last of 5?.
Report pa lapsy September 28, 2013 2:52 PM BST
Numbers are representing the best pedigrees,maybe a bit too much emphasis on pedigree as form is foremost.Thats just my opinion maybe they are used in conjuction with form figures under a certain ratio.
Least tis a thread with some of the more important cross channel races.
Report neill d September 28, 2013 2:53 PM BST
She's an absolute star i'd say Pa, they actually weren't going quick enough for her early. Surprised to hear they're going to America with her. She might not get a mile then but that isn't to say she won't get it next year. Not what i'd do but maybe the successes of Flotilla and Sky Lantern this year have made it fashionable.

Roadrunner's ratings are reached by adding the sire's OR to the dam's.
Report roadrunner46 September 28, 2013 2:56 PM BST
although vorda had the lowest rating on pedigree values, you could argue had the best form in the book, 2nd to no nay never
was very smart form, that horse is rated the best 2yo this season in racing post 2yo ratings. thought princess noor run well.
thats two lowest rated on pedigree values winning this week, with one last week. total of five for the season from 129 races.
Report neill d September 28, 2013 2:56 PM BST
The pedigree with the highest combined OR might not be the best pedigrees anyway. A mare can be a moderate enough racehorse but a top class producer. the dam of Dawn Approach a prime example. Some of the best middle-distance horses of recent times like workforce and Harbinger were shipped of to japan because they are in no way commercial and their progeny would take too long to come to hand. No one wants a big shell of a 3-y-o that might not come in to his own till 5 and that is if he has any ability at all in the first place.

the next fella to join them will probably be Al Kazeem.
Report roadrunner46 September 28, 2013 3:05 PM BST
just a starting point for the pattern races. next year will highlight certain horses in some races better than other ones.
heres two examples of races this year, where the ratings indicated very strong bets. basically will learn more about the group
horses next season from doing all the races and pedigree values, therefore pick off some winners when they drop in grade as well.

CHESTER VASE

ruler of the world 921
mister impatience 881
havana beat 906
feel like dancing 908

DEE STAKES

magician 904
contributer 897
glacial 876
willie the whipper 868
gabrials kaka 851
Report neill d September 28, 2013 3:07 PM BST
Nothing at all wrong with it as a starting point roadrunner, especially if you believe that horses can pass on things like genuineness and gutsiness as well as all of the physical stuff.
Report pa lapsy September 28, 2013 3:23 PM BST
Sky Lantern is back to her best,bit of a messy race but can,t help but admire her come from behind style. 3 good races from Newmarket today.
Yeah Neill Vorda very good,wasn,t enamoured with her head carriage early but found plenty,didn,t see the post race quotes yet but hope the American route was said on the spur.
Report neill d September 28, 2013 3:30 PM BST
No it seemed pretty considered to me Pa, maybe they think she is just a 2yo. You've gotta love Sky Lantern. She'll be in training again next year and will be a brilliant 10f horse as well. Integral is the one to take out of that race, she should be much better next season. I'd say they still aren't sure how best to ride her.
Report roadrunner46 October 27, 2013 1:30 AM BST
Cool
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