champions league 2013-14

More like 4 individual coins richters.

I will include the great David Moyes to make it this year after being robbed by a bad ref decision and lack of discipline from Fergie on the line.  So Napoli and Juve with a view to trade, and man Utd all the way winner.

I find it much easier to get value in the Eur(h)op(eless)a  League outright market than the Champs League. Much better to look for outsiders there as the favs in that competition tend to be more interested in qualifying domestically for the following season's Champs League.

Juventus will do much better now they have signed 2 quality strikers.

I think the Juve price is decent enough.

They will deffo trade shorter I agree.

This "draw" drives me demented - just pull the teams out FFS and be done with it - no-one gives a flying fcuk what Johann Cryuff or anyone else thinks, we all just want to know what the groups are

Ath Madrid @48 may go a long way this year.  Easy group and are very strong home and away.

FINAL CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GROUPS


Group A Manchester United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Sociedad.

Group B Real Madrid, Juventus, Galatasaray, Copenhagen.

Group C Benfica, PSG, Olympiakos, Anderlecht.

Group D Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow, Manchester City, Viktoria Plzen.

Group E Chelsea, Schalke, Basel, Steaua Bucharest.

Group F Arsenal, Dortmund, Marseille, Napoli.

Group G Porto, Zenit St Petersburg, Atletico Madrid, FC Austria Vienna.

Group H Barcelona, Milan, Ajax, Celtic.

Good draw for Keen Leaders selections.

Group B is straight forward Galatasaray and Copenhagen don't count

Group F not a hard group for Napoli should be good enough to beat Arsenal and Marseeille

dream on if you think napoli will knock arsenal out of the champions league or borussia dortmund, napoli going out first round.

man utd / real sociedad?

real madrid / juventus

psg / benfica

b munich / man city

chelsea / basel?

dortmund / arsenal

porto / a madrid?

barcelona / milan

do the 16 teams then go into another draw?

Yes, seeded, depending on finishing positions in groups. I think, for the next round and only that round, teams from the same country are kept apart though could be mistaken on that.

all that money spurs have spent and they still couldnt beat arsenal, never underestimate arsenal

ozil signed up for arsenal they should have good chance now of winning their group excellent midfielder

tuesday 17 sep results

man utd 4-2 b levekusen
plzen   0-3 man city
b munich 3-0 cska moscow
benfica 2-0 anderlect
copehagen 1-1 juventus
galatasary 1-6 r madrid
olympiakos 1-4 paris sg
real sociedad 0-2 shaktar donetsk

wednesday 18 sep results

ac milan 2-0 celtic
chelsea 1-2 basle
marseille 1-2 arsenal
a madrid 3-1 zenit st psbg
austria vienna 0-1 port0
barcelona 4-0 ajax
napoli 2-1 bor dortmund
shalke 3-0 steau bucht

napoli 2-1 bor dortmund WHO'D I'H TAUT THAT THEN

Not a big football better but an Arsenal/Barcelona double at around 7/4 looks good to me tonight.

Chance a Cska Moscow and Bayer Leverkusen DB tonight at very near 2/1.

Massively against one of those teams Pa actually i like neither.

Tbf wildman i'm saying i don't like either but massively against one of them. I won't name which one i hate showing my hand anymore, don't worry there will be no booms as i won't be putting up my bet.

kingrockrat and ratfingers post within minutes of one another....what a coincidence....

Not a big football better Rocket,Scott Browns sending off last night seems to happen a bit often for me,still like a bit of interest in C L all the same. Both teams seem to be drifting slightly so you might be right. Way i looked at it was both of the opponents got well beat at home last cl game,know Cska and Bayer aren,t great but the other two look worse.
Who do you fancy yourself?

Ah i'm on Plzen quite big mate on the handicaps, CSKA form has been shocking, bet the unders as well smaller. I have no bet on the other one but much close to a bet on the Spanish +1, reckon Bayern Munich are also a bet, backed Olympiakos small as well +0.25 but value gone there.

Fair enough, know what you are saying with cska,don,t think Plzen have much better form though, home advantage i,d be hoping is enough.
City and Bayern game could be a good one. gl

Game is on neutral ground in St Petersburg, i'm on +1 and +0.75.

Didn,t realise that, no one at the game.

cheers rocky keep em coming......wd pa

Wd Pa best team won, delighted to get 3/4 of my money back, felt like a win

MUUUUUUUUG.........

I couldn't get over how bad Napoli were last night. Arsenal have the players to pulverize inferior teams but I'd worry for them when they don't have the ball. They have the best midfielder in England in Wilshire, though.

Sound Rocket,lucky though as didn,t realise they weren,t at home, c,mon Bayer.

Bayer Leverkusen very well bet in the last hour or so

wd pa.......rockys satchel well emptied this last 2 nights......

Thanks Richters bit jammy injury time free kick,but R S got a soft peno.
Wildmans comment he made at around 3.30 must have been reported and taken off.

ahh sure rockys reporting everything mate.......they really must be laughing at him,wouldnt be surprised if they ban him,he is just a nuiscance to everyone including betfair....

Well done pa, 2 decent nights for you. Juve the bookies friend tonight, again

Ya richters broker after laying my bets Olympiakos won and so did Bayern my other bet was 3/4 of a push, richters ouch haha.

WD Pa btw

tuesday 1 oct results

steau bucht 0-4 chelsea
arsenal 2-0 napoli
celtic 0-1 barcelona
basel 0-1 shalke
b dortmund 3-0 marseille
zenit 0-0 austria vienna
porto 1-2 a madrid
ajax 1-1 milan

wednesday 2 oct results

shakhtar 1-1 man utd
man city 1-3 b munich
b levekusen 2-1 r sociedad
juve 2-2 galatasary
r madrid 4-0 copehagen
psg 3-0 benfica
anderlect 0-3 olympiakos
cska moscow 3-2 plzen

32 games played so far and only 5 draws

Pa Lapsy gets another double up,Rocketfingers gets both matches wrong,a normal football night on here.

Actually wrong again as i bet all my stuff on handicaps Real Soc bet would have won as they were +1.25, some days not sure why i come to let myself be attacked by the ignorant few.

Pa Lapsy put up a double you replied " massively against one of those teams,I actually like neither " not unusually Pa Lapsy got his double up and you got your dubious losing double up yet again.

You did the usual try to nominate different bets to make out you have won your fantasy bet when its actually gone down.

I also said i was one team +1 and +0.75, read back, for me no biggie, i lose a lot but i'm lucky i win more than i lose

I did read it Pa Lapsy put up a double on Tuesday that triumphed he followed this up with another double that too triumphed,you said you were against both his teams including massively against one of them.

He was right once again you were wrong as usual.

Ok have it your way

results oct 22/23

milan 1-1 barce
celtic 2-1 ajax
porto 0-1 zenit
austria 0-3 a madrid
marsellie 1-2 napoli
arsenal 1-2 dortmund
steua bucht 1-1 basel
shalke 0-3 chelsea
b munich 5-0 plzen
cska 1-2 man city
anderlect 0-5 psg
benfica 1-1 olympiakos
galatasary 3-1 copenhagen
real madrid 2-1 juventus
man utd 1-0 sociedad
leverkusen 4-0 shaktar

48 games played and only 8 draws (low)

arsenal need there players back from injury, would of beaten dortmund easily, had no firepower on the bench.
good win for celtic, still in with a fighting chance.

TTT

come on arsenaltold u they are better
than b dortmund.0-1 25/1 0-2 40/1 arsenal win (mad prices)

have they not noticed you missing from the nuthouse yet ya aftertiming toby??

you dont think im going to give all my tips way said last time they are better team than b dortmund

results nov 5/6

real sociedad 0-0 man utd
shakhtar 0-0 b levkusen
copenhagan 1-0 galatasary
juve 2-2 real madrid
olympiakos 1-0 benfica
psg 1-1 anderlecht
man city 5-2 cska
plzen 0-1 b munich
basel 1-1 steah buch
chelsea 3-0 shalke
b dortmund 0-1 arsenal
napoli 3-2 marseille
zenit 1-1 porto
a madrid 4-0 austria
ajax 1-0 celtic
barcelona 3-1 milan

great win by the arsenal tonight, would be amazing if they can win the league this year.
napoli winning again tonight

my champions league predictions had 7 winners out of 8 the group winners, and 11 out of 16 qualifying for the next round.
arsenal always make it through to the next round, must be one of the most successful and reliable teams in the champions
league every year.

Aaah, so your expertise and inspired selections now encapsulates champions league football as well as all the fibresand action from Southwell...what a guy!

your always saying i dont put selections up before the results already known

I have yet to see you put a horse up on here as a selection before the race has been ran, yes that is correct

thats the thing about the fibresand, you dont have to be an expert to see and understand those angle, have you got any inside contacts in marco botti's yard

put up numerouse horses that won at 16/1 or higher on there next run, after i put them on the numerous notebook lists.

Buddy of mine has contacts in various diff yards in the uk, why?

marco botti is very good trainer, one to watchout for over the next few months on the all weather, remember who told ya.
getting winners all the time

Good grief, that is by far the best post I have ever read on here! A real beauty!

Botti is a trainer to watch out for on the all weather over the next few months!

Sweet fook, I've heard it all!

wildmanfromborneo 30 Aug 13

Group B is straight forward Galatasaray and Copenhagen don't count

Group F not a hard group for Napoli should be good enough to beat Arsenal and Marseeille


Stick to commentating on social issues Borneo

ozy have you done your t1ts on these kl selecseans or do you only do the winning tips?

I didn't follow him here, I would know enough to make my own selections on prominent soccer markets like this. Or at least to evaluate what he says and then make up my own mind. 

You can't beat him on the hosses and the local GAA where he does be mooching around, seeing things and hearing things

Oh boy looks liek richters has just issued a tipping challenge to Keen Leader on here

richters wudnt be fit to lace KL's boots!

shudnt you be at twaddell avenue inside ye ****......

go on admit it insideout,you wish you were irish dont ye,all the hanging around ye do on here,1 all ireland betfair forum,1 all ireland rugby team,next step 1 island 1 country.....BOOOOOOM......

think man city look a value play at the moment in the champions league at 14/1, to win from being 2-0 down against the reigning
european champions the other night, b munich are only 5/2, would bet man city to beat them again if they meet again this year
look the best of the outsiders at this present time IMO. everyone knows they have got a surplus of talent in the squad, one off
games and cup matchs, on their day, can be a capable team and could go all the way to the final. gl all

the OP was right about napoli they played a great tournament, with 4 wins they proved to be a good team, just the experience of
arsenal and b dortmund just got them over the finishing line.

do ye think will the bookies payout for napoli qualifying RR if ye tell them that sobstory.....

Whats the spread on this imminent United Ireland coming into being, Dickie, perhaps we could have a wee wager?

napoli won 4 times outa 6 and didnt qualify..schalke won 1 out of 6 and did.amazing really

me too ozy,maybe rich the dich cud ask betfair if they will put a market up

" Napoli should be good enough to beat Arsenal and Marseille "

This is the statement of mine that Ozymandius tried to hold up to ridicule.

They did beat Arsenal and they also beat Marseille home and away,they won four games out of six and only a late goal for Borussia Dortmund against a ten man Marseille stopped them qualifying.

Napoli failed to qualify with 12 points yet Zenit St Petersburg qualified with a paltry 6 and Galatasaray with 7.

I did lose my money as I backed Napoli to qualify.

Napoli didnt qualify because they played like chumps at the emirates simple as.

Has a team ever not qualified with 12 points before ?

No,Thats the first time in CL history that a team has failed to qualify with 12 points wildman.

Borneo puts money on a football event? I thought that was against your religion?  I thought only hoss gamblin' was proper gamblin'?

According to the Guardian today, PSG got 12 points in 97/98 and failed to qualify :

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/12/champions-league-10-talking-points-group-games


Re the eventual winner, the best bet at current prices is B. Dortmund at 19.5 - 20. Winning their group last night was critical (and surprising). They will play one of Galatasaray,Olympiakos,Zenit,Milan or Man City in the next round (1st leg away). The only one of those they may fear is Man C..They have had a lot of injury problems this season but should be back near full-strength by late Feb 2014 when the round of 32 takes place. They know they have little chance of winning the Bundesliga now but a top 4 (Champs Lge entry), should be well within their compass and will not overly tax them physically.

However, as with so many bets nowadays, there is little value in it but as an "interest bet" in the C.L. Outright market it's as good as you'll get, in my opinion.

my original 3 choices have made the semi finals, will be hoping real madrid win the cup now. just as a thought barcelona werent going to be good enough this year, man city were unlucky against barca, injurys and some dodgy
decisions cost them.

so ye laid barca

Chelsea could be a lay this weekend at 1.21 to beat sunderland, chelsea may rest several key  midfield players with the Champions league game v al madrid on in midweek, MOURINHO is sure to pack midfield to stop Atletico Madrid comeing forward and get a good result for the stamford bridge return game.  Sunderland will be a bit of a high after the Man city result and have nothing to lose, i may be wrong but its a bet worth taking before the Chelsea team is announced , that or a 2-1 win for Chelsea pays 10/1 on betfair.

booom, not exactly the way i thought, but i will the lay

Well done Frank , CHELSEA only have themselves to blame ...

Very good Frank,good bit of reasoning to boot.

ty lads i also bet sunderland to win 2-1 65/1 and 3-1 240/1 for small money i made just over 360e laying near the end of the game ,Sunderland missed a great chance to made the score 3-1 in the last min.. i would have made 5k if that score come up, but i was a happy man nevertheless. ..it might be worth a small wager on norwich to beat liverpool, i got 80/1 norwich to win 2-0 yesterday , i also backed them to win 2-1 at 25/1 , at this time of the year you can get a lot of surprices. good luck with you bets.

Hoping Liverpool do the business , especially for Gerrard , backed Chelsea to win the title , but after yesterday would be more than happy to see this LOYAL player receive the reward his loyalty deserves...Nice pickings Frank...

1.0 LIVERPOOL ..CRACKER..

2..0

wr is ur fone not working..i rang u

Sorry had it on silent , will ring you now...

HOPE FOR GERRARD THAT POOL DO IT, A GREAT PRO.

ARSNEAL were a good bet today v hull,.. reason if Arsneal get a champions league place[which is very likely] then hull will get an Europa cup place even if hull lose the fa cup final to the gunners, im not suggesting that hull will throw the game but they wont be heartbroken if they lose which is very likely now.

7/8 of the group winners predicted - 3/4 of my selections made it to the semi finals - 1 has made it to the final so far, tough game for chelsea, massive advantage tonight at home. couldnt believe how
toothless the bayern munich attack was. real madrid are looking like the winners now. they have an excellent group of attacking players, the manager is doing a great job.

Well done for picking the favourite in all 8 groups

roadrunner loves to pat himself on the back,that's twice now he's told us he's predicted 3 of the 4 semi finalists

A madrid looks the way to go now ,last nights result will give them all the Incentive they need, but i hope im wrong.

Very tight game as expected so far an early goal would have helped but both sides have set up quite defensive. As the old adage goes this game needs a goal.

END OF THE THREAD

7/8 group winners predicted

3/4 my selections made the semi finals

real madrid my number 1 selection won the final

special mention for NEWMANIX who selected A MADRID
has to the best value bet on this thread by miles, inspired choice that pick.

every year the champions league is a money spinner, must be one of the easiest football tournaments
to predict home wins through the earlier rounds for the big teams. home advantage is massive in this competition.

A MADRID showed what a difficult team they are to beat in the final, the beautiful game won in the end.

just one year too early with these predictions, with napoli still in with a shout for the europa league.