Caroline Simons

Why is she an excuse of a woman?
Disagree with her views if you like but why the hatred?

Kavvie your post kind of answers some of the questions I posed.

she refuses to face the reality.if we hadnt england so handy nearby the 120 women who go there every week would have legislaton enacted to cover abortion etc before now.succesive governments have avoided he issue because its politically a no win for them.which is a shame.enda kenny(who im not a fan of)has got death treats etc.hes only trying to do whats right.

She just has a different point of view that's all,one she debates with civility yet none of her opponents reciprocate that same civility.

so if hitler was good at debating about the eradication of the jews should he be heard?she speaks well  for sure but shes dangerous in her views.remember yer wan in america,sarah palin?same sorta stuff.pleasant to look at while her mouth is shut but dangerous when she speaks.

An unfortunate simile Kavvie as you could argue that the pro abortionists have more in common with Hitlers eradication policies than any pro lifer.

How was Sarah Palin dangerous?

Would you allow any differing views?

sarah palin now theres a good topic to debate.you obviously know little of the fragrant sarah if you question her dangerousness(is that a word?)
look her up on wiki or maybe a few of her speeches are on you tube.im not pro abortion per se but in some circumstances its the right of the woman to chose.end of.caroline is anti that.she wont face the reality

My own take is that while I ma happy to listen to anyone's viewpoint when it comes to the Pro-Life nuts they have no interest in listening to anyone's point only their own misguided ones and have no interest in a democractic process.
Personally I would love another Referendum because it would finish the pro-life lobby off for good as they would get pounded.

Ireland a vastly different Country in 2013 than it was in 2002 and 1992

Lustrumm is correct about Ireland being a different country now.

Are the pro choice advocates any more interested in listening to other views than the pro life ones,seems to me they are far more intolerant of differing views.

There is a fool proof way of getting abortion legalised in this country,just tell the powers that be that Muslims allow it that should do the trick.

Anti-Choice and Anti-Muslim but Pro-John Terry.

Last sentence right on the money Wildman. So busy in this country looking after outsiders and being seen to do the so called correct thing we ride rough shot over our own people and our own values.

We're lucky, we could be living in the UK..

exactly...my heart goes out to the likes of Richters.

I know -from pseudo-republican intimidation to Sharia law in one fell swoop.

only for our escape valve england we would have had to sort this out before now.every time i see caroline simons my stomach gets sick.

Luckily the broad mass of the Irish people resist extremists and nutters from whatever background -whether wearing cassocks or balaclavas.

Islamophobia was recognized as a form of intolerance alongside xenophobia and antisemitism at the "Stockholm International Forum on Combating Intolerance".

A declaration was adopted to combat "genocide, ethnic cleansing, racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia and xenophobia, and to combat all forms of racial discrimination and intolerance related to it."

Some scholars of the social sciences consider it a form of racism.

Is there really any debate that it is a form of racism?

Those Muslims ain't half antisemetic .In fact they are so antisemetic they want to wipe them off the face of the earth but then ordinary norms don't apply to them.

Sounds ominously like Judaeophobia to me!

Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated ― George Bernard Shaw

Borneo, you haven't been the same since that robed Cleric caught your eye on the tube in London.  He put the fear of Allah in you.

The Stockholm International Forum on Combating Intolerance was more than likely populated by intolerant free loaders,human rights advocates looking for ways to get themselves money and Maurice Manning.

As someone with Jewish blood in maybe my opinion is greater than most, bar Ozy as he comes across as very well read person, anyway i find Wildman's views ill informed and dated and straight from the right wing forum he seems to plagiarise everyday. Extreme people are no good to both sides, keep to the baling.

FWIW ( probably nothing) -Borneo about 65% Muslim , 30% Tribal ....

Shalom, Rocket.

Yishar koach.

Shalom and Salaam Ozy

I'm an Islamophope and not one bit ashamed of it.

Its Islam that should be ashamed of itself.

I see they removed Kavvies first post whilst it was hard hitting it didn't deserve to be removed by the thought police.

Rocketfingers latest claims to be Jewish should lead to great tales of his exploits in the Six Day and Yom Kippur wars.

I am surprised to hear that, Greaser.  You are normally known on here for your balanced and enightened views.

Jewish blood i said wildman, don't exaggerate please.

I can see what I think is kavvie's first post, its Boreno's opening post that seems to have been removed..weird.

I wronged Kavvie his post was not removed it just got promoted,my opening post was removed no real surprise there as anything resembling old style views are removed yet the vulgar intolerant ramblings of the intolerant left are left in all their glory.

Snap.

Betfair is a multicultural website Wildman's views are dated to say the least. I for one am not surprised.

all I can think is that when you post, Borneo, a warning lightbulb goes off at Betfair HQ and a progressive, free-thinking, recently graduated work-experience intern in charge of monitoring your every move, springs into action.

Going on previous form 'twas either you or Ozymandius complained.

How is posting something favourable about Caroline Simmons anything to do with the failed experiment of multiculturalism?

Is it free thinking and progressive to suppress a certain point of view

You read the opening post did you think it deserved removal.

If i had an issue with your post i'd say it, the fact is i never read it, but going on previous i'm not surprised. I believe in freedom of speech so it would be contrary to my own beliefs if i asked for it to be removed.

Even if you read it you wouldnt be able to remember its content,time gap too long.

Ozy I wouldnt think Islam would be known for its balanced and enlightened views?

I saw nothing wrong with Borneo's opening post.  I fear his reputation preceeds him at Betfair HQ and they take no chances where his posts are concerned.

Not true Silver depends how you interprete the Quran, i lived with some Islam lads and they were fine, but they did say that if i went near their sister then they'd have the right to kill me in Pakistan.

they wood have no fear of you going near the sister thats one sure thing.........

understandable Rocket given your reputation as a bon viveur, international playboy and breaker of hearts.

i'd say their threat was nothing to do with Islam, just plain common sense.

Ozymandius post of 14.14 has earned him a devoted pal for life,Rocketfingers will love that it is sure to be regurgitated on a regular basis but it is cruel.

Judaism and Islamism. Much the same in my book, both singularly racist in their views and diatribe.

Just that one runs the banks and the other the oil industry...

Right play time is over for me off to pick up some bits and bobs for the holliers then back for a few miles of a run and a cycle before planning how i will beat the bookies tomorrow in the LOI, ha i already know !! Healthy body means healthy mind :)

Ozy go easy on old man Wildclown

I'm off too, Rocket, surfs up.