English Derby (doggy version).

ballymac vic is a machine and well worth a bet

the first round is on freeview 212  sky on both nights

Can't wait for Friday & Saturday on 212.

Bring it on.

ISABELLS BOY HAS DRAWN FAV IN 1ST RND BUT THANKFULLY 4 QUALIFY

farloe calvin at a big price

Paul Hennessy is down one as his Allstar is out injured, pulled a muscle in a gallop. Really unlucky especially with that savage sprint run in KK., the other day.Todays RP is full of bookies prices on the various markets, like top Irish, reach the final etc. Coral go 6/4 an Irish winner, bit short maybe.......

K.King will be best of the Irish.

unreal early paced dog but value is well gone

Value gone since AP McCoy and the boys bought into Kereight King.
It's a very good race. Knockglass Billy might get through a few rounds and @33/1 and 40/1 could be worth a few quid e/w. Money Talks is another nice dog at a price.

King 18/1 with powers now. Still think that is value. Cant see him getting into any trouble until the last 24.  1/4 first 6 will look big then.

Best of luck irish with that, I also like Money Talks as i remember the trainer telling all that the world was his oyster after an impressive win in Curraheen last year. He also has a win over vic so just hoping he might take to the track as the Derby is really so open, all the heats on tv 2night.............

Great competition this,this was always the real Derby and thankfully this looks a very good year again with a stronger than normal Irish challenge.

most doggie men would say the irish derby a truer test?.the bend at wimb is very hard to figure and consequently theres na unreal amount of luck involved..and irish derby is more valuable?

the irish derby is the real derby

Used to follow the dogs years ago,only keep an eye on results these days,havent bet one in years. Since the irish derby went to 550,they are 2 completely different events and the irish version most definitely seems to attract better dogs in the latter years. This year though seems to be somewhat of a fightback for Wimbledon as it looks particularly competitive this year. 30 years ago there was only one derby and it wasn't the Irish one.

watched the heats tonight,wimbledon way too narrow,trap 1 introuble straight away and if all dogs don't keep a straight line,well its pure luck,however as it progresses that will sort itself out as the machines will take over hopefully, overall a lot of luck is needed,you have to say the 550 at shelbourne is a true,er (grammer/splelling?) test of an animal...
anyway I must say ballymac vic was impressive,kept a straight line,ran first bend verywell and kicked on down the back....he keep doing that and it will basically be "catch me if you can!"

agree with that .ballymac will be hard stop with average luck.keright king ran well also..pat curtin over first hurdle!!

very true ,also micko donovans dog,i like mick,hes a good bloke and would like to see him go well in it!

every one wud like to see donovan doing well...he had a lot of hard luck storys..(as well as wins!)

Money Talks is in T1 and I dont like that one trap for our runners, Rngtown walked from T1 last night and also Frazers dog from T1 slow away, so for 2night--- Sky, Rumble, and Loner (suited to red) for the treble, and surely MT (even from T1), will go through for my ante-post.......

First batch of second rounds tonight so no more back door for anyone, first 3 now or your derby journey ends......... every body seems to want to be with South Armagh, tonight but he's into 2.54 now, all the 3's and 2's long gone......he's in T6 and should have a huge chance after a great run last week. Vic is in T5 in his heat and needs to 'ping'.......... Droopys Jet should improve from last weeks run to win his heat. A great night sports and its on Sky tonight. (pity its so dam hot)......... the goodnews man warns that quite a few hot-pots got turned over in the 2nd round of 2012, so beware backers of Vic and co.shorties.............

Jet serious run 28.28!

keright 2nd

Even Pistol Taggart now takes aim not only at putting a proper track in South London but also fancies the 5/4 Ireland to beat England.....too late Tagggy boy we got better, great runs tonight from our team, and lots more to come. South Armagh gone west, too slow away tonight.......... Jet+Vic were awesome and looking forward to tomorrow night heats with Shaneboy Alley, Screen Critic, and Money Talks of interest.......

Semi-Final stage and we have 3 left in, so a decent chance of victory for Ireland. Good racing last night and I thought Droopy's Jet was brilliant, and he is my pick for outright victory. Vic hasn't done a lot wrong, and will have plenty of support.As will the Sugar Ray,(happy days for team Fahy after O'Gorman's win at Windsor Monday night). However with his customary slow start Sugar Ray needs a clear run from the back to hold a chance of Derby success. Amazing to hear Eske being knocked after his win in the qt. final, and good clock too. He's dangerous but also cute Charlie Lister has 2 in the semi's. Lots of early with the re-seeded Brittles, but goes up a further rung of the class ladder here in the semi. Looking forwards to Saturday night, and it is not yet too late to get on Frazier Black's dog at around 11/4, for the outright.

Not a doggy man Jay,so be gentle with me.
Saw the Eske race and while he still may have won thought he was a bit lucky with 4 and 6 hampering each other,take on board the time was good which is fair enough.
Good thread and always try to watch the final. GL with your pick.

anyone see pj fahy interview on atr on monday evening,with matt chapman,comes across as a nice guy,very down to earth.

Watched this on Sky last night & though not a doogy man either thought that the 1 dog, I believe called Droops Jet, was very impressive, will probably throw a few quid on him before saturdays semis, around 7/2 mark I think.

Sometimes it is more prudent to wait, and on mature reflection, I would advise waiting for the final draw, as Frazer's dog needs inside box, and not many wide seeds left.I thought Kate Miller was brilliant last night and gorgeous as always. Even went as far as giving a winner (dog that is) a cool drink on the presentation roster. Should Droopys Jet qualify, along say with Vic+Eske, well it will be open enough betting...........

I see Droopys won again on Saturday Jay, unfortunately didn't back as I said would.

From IGB.ie -

The best prices available yesterday evening were:
13-8 Droopys Jet
7-4 Ballymac Vic
8 Sidaz Jack
10 Screen Critic
12 Bittles Bar
33 Airlie Impact

I watched the final of it Jay, I was shocked, Wimbledon looked in such a state of disrepair. Three girls sang and behind them showed an empty ground for what looked like 4/5's of the stadium. Seemed more of a crowd at Romford on a Saturday night 25 years ago. Accept that historically greyhound racing is on a downward spiral but tonight seemed to really lack the atmosphere i associated it with.

Agree Pa, I always remembered a heaving saturday final night, would have seen more at the brandywell dogs probably on Friday nite, lifford gone the same way, sad. Great final though, droopys draw seemed to beat him from my limited knowledge.

Yes, Wimbledon is in a state of dis-repair. Paschal Taggart is the great white hope for this place, otherwise Greyhound Racing in London is surely history. Fraser Black is quoted as saying that the car park is full of broken glass, so hopefully PT succeeds and builds a new stadium there.
Very, very disappointing for the Irish, with good old Charlie doing the job again out of T1, just like Taylors Sky. Mind you CL had compared Sidaz Jack to Taylors. So Galway track is now the place to buy off, after this dog made its debut there, and was quickly shifted to the great Charlie. Ballymac Vic tried his hardest but just could not get by the leader. Now Droopy's Jet, well for him it seemed to be one race too much. Failed to man-up at the first and it was curtains. He mostly likes to front run in any event. Ballymac Vic came out of this Derby with his reputation enhanced, and will be the one to beat in the Irish Derby.

Jay , I backed ballymac and i was very disappointed with him , he took a little bump at the first and seemed to pack it in imo...Maybe hes one of those dogs that need to lead ...I'd be laying him come derby time...

WR the draw decided the race. If ballymac was inside Sidaz he would have beaten him. But Ballymac carries a middle seed tag so that was never going to happen. Droopy's Jet is a front runner in this top grade. WR., you were unlucky and SP will bring out the best in him............

Needs to lead though and not sure to stay the 55o imo Jay....

Athmosphere was quite good last night at Wimbledon i thought, better athmosphere than the last few years anyway - was a good night

Ballymac Vic has serious form over 550yds at Shel Pk.  He has 29.44, 29.46/47/51/62 done over the trip. No stamina doubts. He's with a good man, and after a nice rest he can come back fresh and be a live contender.

Well done pf with Tominator, happy days.............