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MCKENNA
24 May 13 17:29
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Feel there is one standout handicap bet on offer this weekend that has to be mentioned - Limerick +7 v Cork on Sat evening (7pm throw in).  Still widely available this evening,PP have cut it to +6 today, at 10/11. Was hoping to nick +8 on them but as usual like minds are in evidence amongst those wonderful odds compilers.

Limk drew with Cork in 2010 (lost by 2 pts after e/t), and lost by 1 pt to them in 2009 (gave away 2 goals in the last 5 mins).  They are well up for this one, even though they are missing Ian Ryan, their top scorer & free taker. Cork always find it very hard to beat Limerick in recent yrs, and the fact the game is on in the Gaelic Grounds will stand to Limk. Their league displays this yr were the best in many years, although they are a way better championship team. John Galvin is back and looks in good form in training, Tom Lee will cause big problems for Canty at centre forward (if Canty plays there). Think the Cork team will not line out as selected, doubt if Pearse O'Neill will play midfield, Limk could do well there.

Definitely worth a bet on match betting and a major bet on the +7 cap.
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Report DeargDubh May 24, 2013 9:50 PM BST
Nice write up Mc. I hope it runs for you. Don't have a strong view myself but dislike backing big handicaps against 'weaker' teams. I would be against Donegal this weekend. I think it will be tight, but at the prices Tyrone appeal in what I see as a 50/50 game. Perhaps a lay is safest, as I see the draw as a possibility.
Report kingrat May 24, 2013 10:22 PM BST
yeah,i will be laying donegal with a view to trade if it gets dicey.i just cant see donegal having that savage hunger they had last yr.imo they have only 2 maybe 3 top class players up front.also the league form was very hit and miss which to me hints at the wrong attitude within the team. hart is a shrewd opperator and will have a game plan for the way donegal play and he got the players to implement it and express themselves when in procession.

as regards limerick hcp,not for me.it is a big ask for galvin to bring his a game here but i wish him well because hes a fabulous footballer.tbh i doubt he will finish the game .
Report Rocketfingers May 24, 2013 11:20 PM BST
London+3.5 or 4 points
Report kingrat May 25, 2013 6:03 PM BST
tbh rock,i would not be surprised if london mugged sligo here but i dont see much percentage  in the hcp.i would rather be on the straight win but the odds compiliers are taken no chances here.the problem with london is,they can collapse like a cheap desk chair.i wont be involved here but gl with it any way.
Report Rocketfingers May 25, 2013 6:19 PM BST
I agree i think Sligo could be here for the taking. I know one of the lads on the panel and he said they were "worried" which i thought was odd to come out with. Also Kilgallon a Mayo lad that started to play for them has been excellent this season but never travelled because his Mayo side play tonight. They are flying him over to London after tonight's game they have said he won't be involved so he is a loss.
Report neill d May 25, 2013 6:44 PM BST
Not always a fan of handicaps either lads, particularly backing big teams to wallop smaller ones. I'd want a very very strong idea of how the thing is going to play out before stepping in. I'd consider 7 points a massive lead in Gaelic Football at intercounty level,if a fella was on Cork -7 for example, Cork could ease down in injury time, drop 2 points or a soft goal and still effectively win just as easily as if they had won by eight. I think you'd want to think a team was 10 points better to bet them minus 7 and so on.
Report kavvie May 25, 2013 7:03 PM BST
cork to score first goal massive at 4/5 the only thing that stuck out at me for weekend.agree re handicaps when massive underdogs.clare and cork last yr case in point.cork put game to bed early but only bt handicap by one point despite being totally dominant.cork might win by 4 or 14 v limerick.and equally impressive or unimpressive in each case.id have a feeling sligo will bt handicap but not strongly enough to have a bet.
Report kingrat May 25, 2013 7:10 PM BST
cork have 5 rookies here from u21 and beleive me they will get a lovely welcome to championship footballWink
Report kavvie May 25, 2013 7:17 PM BST
glad i cant read it ratty.hardly anything too intelligent anyway!!
Report kingrat May 25, 2013 7:25 PM BST
dont be like that kavLaugh
Report kavvie May 25, 2013 7:29 PM BST
hope some one followed me in.goal for cork..4/5 about a 1/10 team scoring first goal was juicy.
Report kingrat May 25, 2013 7:35 PM BST
the kav is buying the gargleLaugh
Report tobywong. May 25, 2013 7:38 PM BST
3-4 to 3 at ht
Report paddletoe May 26, 2013 3:53 AM BST
Never been to a game at Ballybofey but always thought it was a very tight pitch. However, according to wikapedia it is half a metre longer and 2 metres longer than Croke Park and considerably bigger than all other grounds. Is this right?
Report Kelly May 26, 2013 10:24 AM BST
Not sure on that one paddletoe , long time since I paced it pre match . Doubt its bigger than Croke though  , you cant believe everything you see on the Wiki trail .

The odds today seem a bit skew given Donegals form and the comments I heave heard emanating from some GAA afficionados who are more up to date than I am with current situation . Must be a tight match , would not be surprised to see a replay .
Report silvergreaser May 26, 2013 10:31 AM BST
I'd be loathe to oppose Donegal today I think McGuinness has been gearing these guys up for the Championship and wasn't overly perturbed by the league, yes Tyrone had a good league run and maybe the loss of Stephen O'Neill cost them victory against the Dubs but in the semi Kildare really should've have been 6 or 7 in front at half time but typical Kildare for all their dominance they hit a succession of easy wides and let Tyrone off the hook.

Donegal all the way for me I think these guys are now finely tuned for a formidable defence of their All Ireland title?.
Report Kelly May 26, 2013 10:51 AM BST
From your post paddletoe you must be on an all night vigil pre match . Do you think you will need the prayer mat as much as that ?
Report paddletoe May 26, 2013 1:51 PM BST
I can be a bit of a night owl Kelly when there is sport on during the night and the basketball went to overtime. Donegal look very short in what looks like an even money match. Only thing putting me off having a decent bet on Tyrone was the size of the pitch so just checked it out of curiosity. Cant believe its bigger than Croke Park but thats what it says.
Report tobywong. May 26, 2013 2:10 PM BST
are Kerry doing a Donegal?
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 2:29 PM BST
Tipp are shockingly bad. I know they are Div 4 but even taking that into account this is pathetic stuff
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 2:30 PM BST
Tipp players attitude is terrible. They are strolling around the field and providing no support for players on the ball.
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 2:47 PM BST
dozefest.tipp out of their depth big time.no sign of the minors and u21s yet
Report tobywong. May 26, 2013 2:50 PM BST
London  6 up after 20
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 2:54 PM BST
I just took the 11/10 about Sligo.
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 2:56 PM BST
Just took a bit of 11/8 Sligo...........London 1-5 Sligo 0-3.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 2:59 PM BST
Typical GAA rules there.....you can score point with the fist but not a goal Crazy
Report jimeen May 26, 2013 3:02 PM BST
I agree with you diamond joe. All the GAA would have to do to make it a great game again is make 2 basic and easily enforcable rules,no scoring with your hand whatsoever,and if you receive a hand pass then you have to kick it.
Report tobywong. May 26, 2013 3:02 PM BST
London miss pen !
Report kingrat May 26, 2013 3:09 PM BST
this tip team are a joke.just look at the state of their keeper!Laugha peach of a goal though.a 100% pass fron cooper,donoghue turns his man and leaves him for dead and finishes with aplomb.sligo are in big trouble,the rock is looking good here.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 3:16 PM BST
just look at the state of their keeper


I know, Tipp have a history of their football keepers being a tad over weight. Had to chuckle at the player coming off and being offered a half drunk bottle of coke Crazy
Report kiddo112 May 26, 2013 3:44 PM BST
No Lacey for Donegal
Report BJG May 26, 2013 3:45 PM BST
London down to 14 men but too far clear to be caught now surely

1-10 to 0-6
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 3:46 PM BST
Sligo getting a right beating.
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 3:54 PM BST
Only 5 in it now, London down to 14 men for the last 12 minutes or so
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 3:55 PM BST
Down to 4 points 5 minutes left
Report BJG May 26, 2013 3:55 PM BST
1-11 to 0-10

4 mins left
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 3:56 PM BST
London up the other end and score 1-12 to 0-10 could be a big point
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 3:57 PM BST
1-12 to 0-12
Report kiddo112 May 26, 2013 4:01 PM BST
On half time draw as I mentioned on other thread
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 4:05 PM BST
point in it now in london
Report BJG May 26, 2013 4:05 PM BST
London win by 1pt


Think everyone on here was nearly on em last year!
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 4:06 PM BST
yea...a year too late!!
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 4:10 PM BST
Tbf i told you they were the bet, anyway gant and kavvie please no slaging me over this please, You pair of right scallies really have some stick to beat me with now !
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 4:12 PM BST
Credit where credit is due.......we all get a winner now and again.
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 4:13 PM BST
I think i took some of your  money trading too, thanks gant, going to go out for a slap up meal now, cheers for the dosh mate Happy
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 4:14 PM BST
I had the bets with pp.
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 4:15 PM BST
great for all the young irish in london.the club house in ruislip will be be buzzing right now!!
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 4:17 PM BST
True Kavvie.
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 4:36 PM BST
laois got some beating.10pts by louth.mcnulty will be under pressure now.
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 4:38 PM BST
Donegal v Tyrone is a cracking match.
Report kingrat May 26, 2013 4:47 PM BST
brilliant tipping from the rock.wd m8.i have long suspected he played the game and feigns ignorance when it comes to gaa matters but despises the establishment.lick arses like the kav and gant who never played dont get that.
Report GANT007 May 26, 2013 4:49 PM BST
The junior B footballer speaks.......I'm sure your mate will get great pleasure out of Sligo losing.
Report by purpose May 26, 2013 4:57 PM BST
How many spliffs has Brolly had ?
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 5:00 PM BST
King i'm not saying you're right or wrong Wink
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 5:07 PM BST
FFS switch the Tyrone free taker
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 5:08 PM BST
On Donegal at even money
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 5:12 PM BST
WTF are Tyrone playing at allowing him to keep taking frees. Hes completely shot
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby May 26, 2013 5:14 PM BST
actually switch the keeper full stop ffs
Report Kelly May 26, 2013 5:48 PM BST
Deteriorated with the conditions .  Tyrone need a play maker , come back Brian McGuigan , all is forgiven .

Donegal will be pleased to get that out of the way , Ulster title theirs for turning up .
Report silvergreaser May 26, 2013 7:43 PM BST
Some serious shocks today Louth not only beating Laois but hammering then, and when was the last time London won a championsip game.

I hope the **** Kildare are ready for Offaly?
Report paddletoe May 26, 2013 7:49 PM BST
Would'nt be critical of the Tyrone keeper. He had a poor day with his shooting but he is always going to be taking frees from a distance where he is likely to miss a good few. Just unfortunate he missed them all on the one day.

Been saying for years that most county teams should convert an outfield player as their goalkeeper and give him the role of taking the frees. No reason for goalkeepers to be doing hard training. They should be practising frees non stop at training sessions. All counties will have a top class club freetaker who is not up to county standard. So lots of options for converting players into goalkeepers provided they are a certain size.
Report paddletoe May 26, 2013 7:54 PM BST
I think Bryan Sheehan is one of the best placed ball free takers. When he was not getting his starting place on the Kerry team he should have been playing in goals.
Report silvergreaser May 26, 2013 7:57 PM BST
Have to be honest I fancied Donegal big time today but I wasn't overly impressed, 2 goals at vital moments in the game gave them that edge but I thought they struggled badly in midfield, anyone like me think the same?
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 9:52 PM BST
I've been saying it for a while having watched training in Sligo that it was very ordinary looking copared when i've watched Rovers trained say. Gant shouted it down but good to see O'Hara come out and say it like it is. He spoke the truth and it's a breath of fresh to not have someone sit on the fence the whole time.
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 10:07 PM BST
would he be a tad bitter ?!?
Report Wallflower May 26, 2013 10:12 PM BST
silvergreaser 26 May 13 19:43 
Some serious shocks today Louth not only beating Laois but hammering then, and when was the last time London won a championsip game.

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Think they won one last year.........against Waterford?

And won the year before as well.........against Fermanagh?     Pretty sure about these two wins, definitely recent years.


Didn't win in Connacht since the 70s apparently.
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 10:14 PM BST
77 v leitrim
Report Wallflower May 26, 2013 10:19 PM BST
jeez  2 mins; Kavvie, I'm impressed......who needs wikipedia or GAA.ie when there is always the Betfair forumHappy
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 10:23 PM BST
i know my gaa.not great at the old soccer or rugger!
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 10:30 PM BST
Kavvie he's right though, sure he would have loved to be there. Why did he bring in a Mayo player in Feb (IIRC) but told O'Hara one of the best players the county ever produced he had to be there from Oct/Nov? O'Hara knows the training Rovers doing andeven the rugby team he knows the GAA training is not up to this standard and i believe that is what he was getting at, no reason to lie.
Report 1.01's no fun May 26, 2013 10:36 PM BST
Why did Sligo not involve this Kilgannon fella you said they flew over?
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 10:38 PM BST
It's Kilcullen and they did, they brought him on with about 25 minutes left.
Report 1.01's no fun May 26, 2013 10:52 PM BST
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It's Kilcullen and they did, they brought him on with about 25 minutes left.

Apologies if im wrong here but.....

You watch Sligo training and they have a Roscommon man playing in Mayo lining out for Sligo who you name as Kilgallon before the game BUT Kilcullen after the game....CrazyCrazy
Report Wallflower May 26, 2013 10:53 PM BST
Ehmm, no Rocket (its not about your agenda).......he's comparing Sligo GAA training to other GAA counties.......it's pointless comparing against anything else.

(........however little secret.....as it happens and pure co-incidence I was a relative by-stander in a conversation in Galway about a week ago where the two friends were chatting about GAA and this match as well - one said that he knew for a FACT that Sligo GAA had contacted some Mayo and I think Leitrim county board people with regard to some logistics about playing in Ruislip. One of the lads remarked, "I wonder have they got their places on the ferry booked yet its a only a week to the match". Had a bit of a chuckle, but noted to myself "does dis-organisation off the pitch mean dis-organisation on it; I decided it didn't and veered away from a London puntSad...).
Report Wallflower May 26, 2013 10:56 PM BST
Not clear above.....meaning Sligo had only recently contacted other Connacht counties about Rusilip logistics with the game almost upon them.
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 10:59 PM BST
Lads i'm from there i told you London would beat Sligo and they did, i have my finger in a lot of pies and this is one. What do you mean i wa not able to name Kilcullen before the match i said it on this thread.

O'Hara is spot on, i consider him a friend, it's him who give me the name, The Rock when i went for a 50/50 ball with him i had no right to win !
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 11:01 PM BST
i have experience of ruislip.a gluepot of a pitch.a hard spot to play in.and the facilitys are ...different....
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 11:05 PM BST
I'd never diss London's facilities, they're not even from a place that has heard of the game nevermind play it. People asking why are they in it next Cry
Report Wallflower May 26, 2013 11:06 PM BST
Downside of this of course......is no killing to be made on my little "pet team" Leitrim beating Sligo yet again at tasty prices. I was already lining it up....hoping for 7/4, 9/4 maybe betterSad. Ah well.
Report 1.01's no fun May 26, 2013 11:07 PM BST
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I know one of the lads on the panel and he said they were "worried" which i thought was odd to come out with. Also Kilgallon a Mayo lad that started to play for them has been excellent this season but never travelled because his Mayo side play tonight
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 11:09 PM BST
ur gas rocket. i didnt diss it.im proud of the gaels who keep the gaa going in london.all the gaa people in london are irish so whats sorta sh1t are you talking?maybe you expect boris johnston to congratulate them in tomorrrows daily telegraph?!
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 11:10 PM BST
ur gas rocket. i didnt diss it.im proud of the gaels who keep the gaa going in london.all the gaa people in london are irish so whats sorta sh1t are you talking?maybe you expect boris johnston to congratulate them in tomorrrows daily telegraph?!
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 11:10 PM BST
ur gas rocket. i didnt diss it.im proud of the gaels who keep the gaa going in london.all the gaa people in london are irish so whats sorta sh1t are you talking?maybe you expect boris johnston to congratulate them in tomorrrows daily telegraph?!
Report kavvie May 26, 2013 11:15 PM BST
treble
Report freddiek May 26, 2013 11:18 PM BST
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Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 11:21 PM BST
1.o1 oops, that actually nearly funny the ex is Kilgallon, oh jeez Cry
Report freddiek May 26, 2013 11:22 PM BST
Well done the Exiles.

Indo reporter is gettin ahead of himself here. Caption below the photo

"London secured the Connacht SFC title with a 1-12 to 0-14 win over Sligo"

http://www.independent.ie/sport/london-secure-connacht-title-29297856.html
Report Rocketfingers May 26, 2013 11:23 PM BST
Kavvie why not, 36 years is a long time to wait !

God i see neddiek might be posting on this thread Sad
Report kingrat May 27, 2013 12:26 AM BST
i think the way to beat donegal is to play them at their own game.2 up front and leave 13 men behind the ball.give no space and get in their faces,reduce it to a brutal physical encounter and see what they have got under their finger nails,and a dead ball specialist is a must.
Report neill d May 27, 2013 2:01 AM BST
They've loads pal, they'll have to be outclassed and there are only two who can do that, Kerry or Dublin. if the all Ireland was 7 a side Kerry would piss it, I hope they win another as it's strange to see a side win so much and still underachieve. I think we'll all look back on their artistry fondly.
Report benny_ROBS_roy May 27, 2013 9:18 PM BST
tyrone tried to do exactly that kingrat, it didnt work out for them
Report paddletoe May 27, 2013 9:49 PM BST
The thing about Donegals style of play is that they can look so in control of matches with small leads because they are so so hard to break down defensively and give away so few goal chances. Teams will always hit a lot of wides against them and that can be deflating.

Thought they were flattered by their winning margin yesterday. Even accounting for the pressure they put on forwards Tyrone hit more wides from play than you would expect. The Tyrone goalkeepers hit more wides from frees than he would normally. The first Donegal goal could not have happened if the referee did not move the ball 15 yards forward after Tyrone conceded a free. Tyrone had a great goal chance but it fell to a player who never even had a goal on his mind. Tyrone also had a clear penalty turned down.

All these turning points were before the last half an hour when the game was still close. Just a few of them going a different way and Tyrone would have and probably deserved to be 3 or 4 points ahead.

Donegal beat Tyrone by 2 points in ulster last year but it was as comprehenssive 2 point win as you would ever see when Donegal got on top in the second half.
Report ChildOfMine2 May 28, 2013 10:40 AM BST
Donegal -1 was the bet of the weekend - This weekend's nap is Offaly (+9) with Powers. Offaly are much better than they were last year and Kildare aren't as good as they looked like they were gonna be. This could well be close but Offaly +9 is a cert!
Report kingrat May 30, 2013 7:55 PM BST
i am not surprised the sligo players came out in support of walsh.hes very likable and loyal to a fault.in a tight spot he will not let u down.he has just stayed a yr too long and imo he has done very well with them.as regards o'hara,it comes a time when its over and in time i think he will regret his comments,the sligo county board,fair enough but not walsh.also walsh has to be the next galway manager.
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