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The biggest doping scandal in the history of Horse Racing........
The biggest doping scandal in the history of Horse Racing........
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Not a Great White but a red one
Cocaine on fire Jaysus Borneo, can you at least make the clues cryptic  And you should not put up this unless you are 100% certain; that does not include hearing it on a bar stool or having a friend who knows an Inspector etc. |
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And you are asking to be reported with that post btw, not my style, but you can rest assured that somebody will.
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Report what ozy?, are you really that naive, or do you think everyone involved in the cesspit of Irish racing are all fine upstanding citizens who would never dare try to gain an unfair advantage or screw the unwary?.
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These guys are in business, Greaser.
As far as I know these supposed positive drug tests have not been reported publicly. If you were in business, and someone on a widely read public forum repeatedly made unsubstantiated claims which were hugely detrimental to your business and reputation, how would you feel and what would you do? |
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Be careful Silvergreaser , The forums Housewife has her knife out for you , Shes only happy when shes spilling the beans..
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If I was interested in spilling the beans, wonky, the thread would be down by now.
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Glad to see you recognized yourself OZY...
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The difference between me and you, wonky, sorry ONE of the differences, is that I see nothing derrogatory in the term housewife.
To your pre-existing prejudices of homophobia and racism, it appears we can now had sexism. |
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The irony is that tis you that thinks the word housewife derogatory in your crazy politically correct world it suggests submissiveness and a lack of fulfilment.
In my time it was the mans job to be the provider and the woman when she got married became a housewife and reared the children,they actually had good lives. Then on came the loons with sociology degrees saying a woman can't be fulfilled unless they worked outside of the home,they work outside the home now alright and have to do the housework and child rearing as well,the modern woman in an attempt to be free have never been as subjugated. |
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A doozy of a thread.
Only on the Irish 4um can a discussion on horse doping turn into a treatise on the travails of feminism. Add in the required mix of ingredients ( as an enslaved housewife would in a kitchen/baking scenario  ) e.g. mystery , faux outrage and veiled threats and viewers descend into a state of convulsed hilarity. |
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OZY , A typical left winger , ANYTHING THAT ENDS IN ISM APART FROM COMMUNISM that is ,IS BAD ...Racism Sexism etc...
...Cant really see you having to worry about a wife though......... |
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I see the Turf Club have now gone on the offensive and will be doing more vigorous testing for Anabolic Steroids .....I wonder will any trainers on this side of the irish sea be worried......
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Where did you read that workrider?, the resident snitch will probably forewarn them weeks in advance before the "so called" dawn raid, how do you explain why only Paul Carberry and one other jockey has failed a breathalyser test in the last few years?, Irish jockeys must be the soberest in the world lol.
Phone call from resident snitch, Eh Johnny Jockey yourself and Jimmy Jockey are earmarked for a breathalyser test on Sunday morning so I'll advise you to sit in on Saturday night or only have one glass of wine with your Indian Curry. |
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The field silvergreaser...
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Cheers workrider.
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Communism is probably the worst of the isms, wonky. Up there with Republicanism anyway
The irony is that tis you that thinks the word housewife derogatory Oh, I see, wonky meant it as term of endearment! Personally I try to restrict the amount of cleaning, laundry cooking and housework done by my woman to pratically zero. If she had to do any of those things herself I would view myself as something of a failure for not being able to support her and look after her properly. And to be honest the modern international woman of a certain class, posesses very few of these skills anyway. |
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My wife is outside at this very minute cutting the grass ....She is a very capable lady and needs very little help from myself ...Ozy , methinks you mix up , a , helping hand , with ,I must obey ....
..sounds to me as if she has you were she wants you... |
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My apologies OZY , if that should read , HE has you were HE WANTS YOU...
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It sounds like you have yourself what used to be known as a 'two bucket woman'. Fair play, but they don't exist anymore. What time is your tea being served up? |
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A farmers daughter , Hard to beat alright ...If i'm truthful i'd be lost without her ....
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The Doncaster St. Leger result where Camelot got beaten for the Triple Crown is surely of interest in the further investigations of the doping scandal.
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the plot gets even murkier.
From the Racing post... BRITISH racing lurched back into crisis on Monday as a second Newmarket trainer admitted to using anabolic steroids on his horses. Gerard Butler has told the BHA that several of his horses received treatment consisting of injections of anabolic steroids for injured joints. The trainer believes more than 100 racehorses across Newmarket may have been given the same treatment. The news comes just days after Godolphin trainer Mahmood Al Zarooni received an eight-year ban for administering anabolic steroids to 15 horses under his care, a scandal which thrust British racing into the worldwide media spotlight. However, unlike in the Al Zarooni case, Butler said the treatment came recommended by vets, who told him the treatment was widespread in Newmarket, and included the injections in his official medical records where were seen and returned by the BHA without comment. Butler told the Independent: "It did not cross my mind that there could be any problem with this medication. And, judging from the fact that the BHA said nothing about it when they saw my medical book, it does not seem to have crossed their minds, either." Butler believes the medication, known as Sungate, to have been commonly recommend by vets in Newmarket for the treatment of joint injuries. "I have been very uncomfortable over the past few days, hearing and reading about the Al Zarooni case," he said. "I feel people need to know about what has happened in my yard. I know I'm obliged to satisfy myself that each and every treatment is within the rules, and I failed to do so in this case. "But I am certain that this medication has been misunderstood by many others. And I just hope that the BHA is being suitably rigorous in establishing whether that is indeed the case." Butler, who said he is co-operating with the BHA, added: "I have been totally candid throughout, and it was I who told the BHA that I had treated four colts in December and January. I’m not trying to defend myself, just to explain what happened. And I must emphasise I was advised in good faith by my vets." |
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Big can of worms , it looks like . How many others have been sleeping poorly these last few days ?
The part the vets play in the horse racing scene is going to come under even more scrutiny than to date . It is obviously an asset for a trainer to be veterinary savvy , but if it becomes almost obligatory it would not necessarily be the best day for the sport . |
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Yeah Kelly the equine vet profession are not coming out of this smelling of roses.
The crowd that treat Butlers horses in Newmarket are making no comment as they're currently facing a BHA enquiry, interesting to see if more trainers are implicated at the enquiry. |
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Will they revisit the Royal Trainer , who's vet claimed he never knew that what he was injecting into certain horses , was prohibited ...?
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I don't mean to malign the veterinary profession en masse -but it's worth recording that many vets colluded with farmers in perpetrating ( and perpetuating) the Bovine TB scandal in previous decades...
This was once described by Dr. T K Whittaker as the greatest scandal in the history of the State ( at least up to that point 20+ years ago  ).Makes one wonder about the level of regulation of veterinary activity that is applied -or is there any ? |
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More details emerging from background notes made by the investigation team . He brought the substances in from Dubai in his own luggage , filled syringes himself and handed out these to a staff member ( unqualified veterinary wise ) for injection into selected horses . Not exactly a stable routine operation in full and transparent view of others apart from the selected staff member .
Question arises as to how prevalent such administration was back where he had been before ? |
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Love how the betfair mods removed my thread on Godolphin being Cheats.
I guess Sheikh Mo must have ordered his Diktat to everyone in the game. Pathetic |