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Unless somebody takes a chainsaw to Conors legs Kav?
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time will tell...a lot can happen with horses
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6/4 by Christmas, you having a laugh? To be anywhere near that he would want to smash Hurricane Fly in the Morgianna and then still if one of the English trained horses are impressive in the Fighting Fifth, International etc..... he will surely not be that short.
Yes he was hugely impressive [awesome actually], as easy a Triumph winner as i've seen but that is all he is and he has only beaten other juveniles. He could easily go on to be Champion next year on what i saw yesterday. Hurricane Fly, The New One, Rock On Ruby, Grandouet, Jezki, My Tent Or Yours, Champagne Fever [if he don't go chasing], next years Champion Hurdle could be exceptional if they all get there fit and well. |
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a/p betting is a tough game.i had a good bet(at 20s) on sizing europe to win the champion hurdle.he was gone long odds on ir and even then he got injured.so id say about our conor,he looks good but he has to get thru 360 days injury free and then has to be good enough to win the race.as prem says it could be the hottest ch in 20 yr if all the above get there.
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Premier a strict reading of Hurricane's form is not really that great is it?, an all out win over Peddlers Cross who hasn't done a tap since, outpaced again this year only the slower ground helped him reel in ROR, and lets be fair if ROR was in any of Istabraqs champion hurdles do you think he would've got within an asses roar of the great one?
Triumph hurdle winners do win the Champion hurdle you know, some might not win but be placed?. Katchit the last winner, last years Triumph winner Countrywide Flame ran a cracker this year, and yet none of them came even close to that demolition yesterday and these are usually the best pretenders in the 4yo division?. |
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Hurricane Fly has now won 2 Champion Hurdles, yes i think everything went his way this year but he still got the job done. Rock On Ruby is the most underrated horse in training in my opinion, he never gets the credit he deserves. Had he not had to make it this year and maybe if he had not went as hard in the middle part of the race [when they had Hurricane off the bit] perhaps it could have been different but Hurricane Fly is now a 2 time Champion Hurdler and Our Conor has a way to go to do that.
Katchit won his Triumph Hurdle pretty easy didn't he? And as for his Champion Hurdle i think it's fair to say Sizing Europe looked like he was going to win and win well until going wrong. As for that years Champion Hurdle it was dire in my opinion and the ground had gone against most of the half decent horses in the race. |
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Kavvie , way back I had Brownes Gazette EACH WAY at 33/1 for the Champion Hurdle , he started odds on . Finished fourth , could have ridden it into a place at least myself I think . The horses name wasn't the only colour in the picture unfortunately .
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i remember it well.round the time of the great dermot browne as i remember!!
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Needles+pinza, Brownes Gazette lost it at the start if memory serves me correctly, think he jinked.....
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Dermot dismissed as a fantasist as it suited not only racings fraternity but the gravy trainers in the media, couldn't have an ex jockey now saying the game is inherently corrupt now could we?.
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Yes permier maybe ROR is a little underrated in the grand scheme of the current bunch of mediocre hurdlers, thats why I can see Our Conor boosting the division and making mince meat of the current bunch of mediocrity.
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our conor destroyed a good triumph field he must hold everychance of running abig race in the champion?
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i remember a lot of shady stuff going on round that time..i had a lovely bet in 1987.see you then at 5/1 and forgive and forget at 5/1 .ton each and ton double.see you then won champion at evs and f and f let me down in gc.that was the year of the snow..around that time there was a massive gamble on a horse called fearless leader..?!!?
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it was in the 4miler as i remember.backed from 10/1 to 9/4 fav i think.at that time there was a part of the race out of view of the grandstands etc.
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i thought it was j fowler trained but not sure..if u say enda, enda it was
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A fly on the wall in the Maddenstown pub would tell you a lot more than the gravy trainers are willing to admit.
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i could tell a few storys that would shock..!!
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Fearless Leader was trained and ridden by Enda Bolger started a lot shorter than 9/4 for the National Hunt chase,he was pulled up out of sight of the Grandstand.
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was he shorter than 9/4?
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I think he was around 6/4 ,Jack Of Trumps got beaten at 4/5 in the same race but he just fell.
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was 10s that morn in cheltenham town
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That can't be right Kavvie I was backing him from Christmas onwards and I never got anything near 10/1 three months prior to the race.
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i backed him ew at 10s ..cant rem where or whether it was a private bet or not?i was congratulating myself on my shrewdness!!
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