Irish Sports
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 88 comments are related to the topic:
Robbie Power
Robbie Power
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 88
|
By:
I would imagine that the sands of time are running out fast for Robert Power,i liken his career to another ordinary rider who got more than enough chances to prosper,alot more chances than his talent ever deserved. One by one he lost most good rides he had,and nowadays he is just the ultimate journeyman. Alot of it has to do with common sense too,and failure to show that when you are riding is unforgivable.
|
|
By:
Sam Thomas?
|
|
By:
S.B?
|
|
By:
to steal a hurling phrase from his native county, he wouldn't hurl spuds to hungry ducks
|
|
By:
The jockey i am referring to is Irish and rides today in Roscommon. It shouldnt be too hard to figure out.
|
|
By:
I presume if its the jumps jimeen is on about Roger or if its the flat Fran?
|
|
By:
I think you are being very harsh Jimeen,even if every word you say is true tis sympathy the man should get.
David Casey has been dogged with injuries and they take their toll,he is still a fair jockey but berating a jockey for not being the best is severe its hardly his fault. |
|
By:
andymac
|
|
By:
Wildmanfromborneo,or anybody else for that matter. Could you please point out anywhere i mentioned David Casey or even hinted that it might have been him i was talking about. The person i meant was blatantly obvious and has been mentioned but it isnt David Casey.
|
|
By:
At least jimeen is consistent, he has nothing good to say about anybody. He reminds me of a fellow I use to play football with, a narkey little b0llix who knew it all.........
|
|
By:
Bet he was better than you!!!
|
|
By:
Jimeen your post of 21.29 is vague and almosts asks us to solve the puzzle,your follow up post of 10.14 confirms it,Silvergreaser and Richters proffered some answers,I thought David Casey fitted the bill but you now come on all coy and indignant demanding answers as to why something that is blatantly obvious to you might not be so to others.
|
|
By:
Jimeen
Why bother your b0llox |
|
By:
Wildmanfromborneo,i never asked anybody to try and guess who it was. A few people did in fact guess and one of them was correct,but not one of them posted in the manner that you did,saying i was kicking an injured man when he was down,and that i was berating him. I never even mentioned David Casey,but your post is as if i definitely had.
The gotchee,if i am not mistaken you were solely responsible for hunting Stamford bridge off this forum,citing the fact that anybody could pick the horses he picked because they were obvious. You seem to have some form of inferiority complex towards people who have a wider knowledge of horse racing and other sports,than you do yourself. By purpose,i am inclined to agree with you,this place is becoming pointless. If you talk sense you are either a know all,or you can ready yourself for an argument with somebody who would fight with their toes. |
|
By:
You have a view on certain jockeys I just don't get your coyness,you made two cryptic posts that to me seem to beg an answer as did others.
My sympathy lies with jockeys whereas you call them urchins and midgets and complain that they aren't good dinner companions without any understanding of why they would give you a wide berth,you also called for some way where you could abuse jockeys on course if they rode what you perceived to be a bad race. I get the need of some to blame jockeys for all losing bets but you seem to be constantly angry. |
|
By:
jimeen is indeed right re stamford bridge(one of the best ever to post here).there are a few downright nasty posters on here and they ruin it for everyone else.i have any i consider in this bracket blocked.maybe if we all done that they might go way.jimeen makes his points well.everyone mightnt agree with him totally.many would.i have seen some of them in action at various festivals and they wouldnt please their mothers lets say.but its a hard life and takes a lot of guts and dedication.not many people have 2 ambulances driving round after you as you do your daily work.i think why many are bad mannered etc is because of their diets and the constant wasting.
|
|
By:
Aside from the urchins remark, which is tongue and cheek I'd say, I think he is calling it as he see's it, just that the guy wasn't that good in the first place and has found his level, nothing personal in the same way someone might say such and such isn't good enough for inter county or whatever. If it is the guy I presume, the job he had at the time he had it wasn't the prize it once was anyway.
|
|
By:
biggest job in irish racing 20 yr ago.not so now.
|
|
By:
jimeen, I suspect you suffer from ANGRY LITTLE MAN SYNDROME. Your name seems to imply that you are a man of small stature and feel that your masculinity is undermined by your shocking lack of inches. You need to calm down and try to resolve the issues that trouble you. If my memory serves me correctly you were missing from here for a long time. Its quite obvious the treatment hasn't worked.
 |
|
By:
The gotchee,yes i used to post here before,gave it up as there were too many nonsensical posters like yourself at the time. The final straw was people arguing with me that Tom Ryan was a better jockey than Barry Geraghty. Nowadays its more of the same,calling things as they are is seen as being unsympathetic,not being too tolerant of mediocrity is seen as being angry.
A personal failing i have is the inability to suffer fools,and also a zero tolerance for low class performances in all walks of life. You say i have nothing good to say about anybody,that is not the case,far from it in fact. I can like most others recognise greatness and will always give credit where credit is due. Lots of things can be done correctly but arent due to lack of dedication and lack of preparation,it isnt that hard to get things right sometimes,but the nature of the Irish is such that we will put up with any kind of performance,so therefore there is no real need to get it right,that is the thinking of many. For example Robert Power is a grand jockey in many peoples eyes,as is Kate Harrington. Racecourse food isnt too bad at all in many peoples eyes,that wouldnt be the way i see it myself but maybe i am wrong. Finally after years of gambling,i no longer have the ability to just shrug my shoulders and say thats racing if my selection is beat when it should clearly have won. Only monday evening i was on both inkerman and steps to freedom,and in my humble opinion,both horses were the best in their respective races,but neither collected. In both instances i am citing jockey error as the reason for defeat. Now i know every jockey cant be Ruby Walsh and Johnny Murtagh,but in both cases that level of jockeyship was nowhere near what was required. |
|
By:
Fair play for saying it as you see it Jimeen,as i haven,t made a comment yet i,ll throw my tuppenceworth in.
As the race panned out Robbie should really have won it, Davy was cute and kicked at the right time,as another poster has alluded to don,t know what orders John Cullen was given but if rode as in his previous few starts i,d be fairly sure he,d have won and maybe quite comfortably at that,that to me would be the bigger question of the race than Robbies ride. |
|
By:
There was actually a time when Barry Geraghty was riding poorly and Tom Ryan was an up and coming jockey although I hasten to add I wasn't in that argument.
I thought both Inkerman and Steps To Freedom were the best horses in their respective races whilst I agree Robbie Power was very poor in his race thought Wayne Lordan was more unlucky than in error. If Barry Geraghty had been riding Steps To Freedom he would have won which makes it galling for you but you knew Robbie Power was riding it when you backed it,I drew a line through Steps To Freedom when I saw the jockey,still managed to back a loser in the race all the same. |
|
By:
Yes wildmanfromborneo,you are correct when you say i knew who was riding Steps To Freedom,of course you are. Now there are jockeys at all levels,and quite clearly some are better than others,but to me its just not as simple as drawing a line through an individual rider,because in many races the selection will not have a really top rider but you are hoping that your jockey puts up one of his better shows,although you are fully aware that a cockup is quite likely,at least more likely than it would be if a top rider rode it.
The big difference with jockeys as it is with alot of sportspeople,is that the top ones can ride at their best when expectation is high. They can ride fancied horses the way they should be ridden,alot of others can ride winners too,but in the big races,or when the money is down,and when the paying public are expecting,that is when you see the real difference. |
|
By:
jimeen your as well off not engage with gotchee .he wont listen to logic and will resort to personal insults as you have seen.i also backed inkerman and the horse has me puzzled.he def has a lot of ability but i feel he maybe is a bit lacking in resolution and is/cowardly.its hard blame lordan as he prob was expecting inkerman to quicken past the ones in front.things happen very fast in races and in a few yards it was lost.il be backing him to recover losses next time.if he hits the front he will prob go on and win easily.id agree re jockey on steps of freedom.but he didnt seem to be enjoyong the ground forst circut.so maybe a bit more juice will suit.
|
|
By:
Kavvie The Gotchee ships a bit of abuse as well he also has something of interest to say.
Steps To Freedom is a pure good ground horse definitely doesn't want juice in the ground. Lester Piggott the best big race jockey of them all. |
|
By:
Kavvie,another big difference between the top jockeys and others is that the better riders dont get bullied in races,they are the ones that make room for themselves,they get the gaps others dont. Alot of the time they manufacture the gaps themselves by bullying the riders alongside them. As you say things happen fast in races,and he who hesitates is lost. Lordan was bullied all over the track that night,by at least 2 jockeys if not even 3,i would have said it wouldnt happen Smullen or Manning too often.
|
|
By:
When the likes of a lesser known or journeyman jockey makes a perceived mistake its seems to be exaggerated by all and sundry and when the so called top jockeys make a mistake it seems to glossed over by media and punters alike.
In 2010 Gold Cup Kauto Star 8/11fav put in one of the worst rounds of jumping in its entire career before eventually falling, and it wasnt been ridden by Sam Thomas but by the worlds gretaest jump jockey Ruby, who incidentally has failed to get around in 3 of the last 4 Gold Cups?, but when Sam was unseated after Kauto stumbled at Haydock on only his 2nd and last ride on the horse, the cries for bring back Ruby was deafening, of course Ruby won the King George and Gold Cup on its next 2 starts so that was all the proof of the puffing you needed, it wasn't the horses fault it was all Sams fault?. McCoy gave Binocular what I thought was a far too over confident ride in the 2009 Champion hurdle the horse really should've won comfortably instead of been beaten a neck and a head, yet the media could'nt bring themselves to slag off the worlds winning most jump jockey so they slagged off the horse saying he doesn't quite get up the Cheltenham hill, what race were they watching the horse was closing all to way to the line as he proved the following year by storming up the Cheltenham hill. Moral of the story if a top jockey makes an error its the horses fault, if a journeyman makes a mistake its the guillotine!. |
|
By:
id consider lordan a better jockey than most jimeen.certainly better than manning imo..but as they say this is a discussion forum..we will agree to differ.even the greatest of them all mickey joe made a few errors in his time.none bigger than losing his stick in america on the biggest night of all
|
|
By:
The Inkerman race I'd have to say Chris Hayes did a number on Lordan and it was to Hayes's detrement the way the race panned out as his mount got unbalanced in the bump and went out like the proverbial.
Re jockeys abilities-if you can't see the difference that putting up an R Walsh or BJG as opposed to a Roger Loughran or similar well I give up,nobody is saying that Loughran would get beat on all the steering jobs that the top lads get but there are loads of tight races where the abilities of the BJG's out there make the difference. Why would you think both Mullins and Nichols put up with that arrangement with Ruby all those years?,they were willing to get 50% of the best NH jockey there's ever been (imo) than cut off their own nose to spite their own faces. |
|
By:
If Greaser had bought Frankel as a yearling he would have trained and ridden him himself. After all trainers and jockeys don't matter.
|
|
By:
Well ozy when Ruby was out injured it didn't cause the Mullins stable to collapse in on itself while Paul Townend was able to grab the 2010/11 jockeys title, winning 3 times on Hurricane Fly into the bargain (6) times on the horse in all, goes to show Hurricane Fly doesn't depend on Ruby.
The very average Patrick Mullins managed to finish 4th in this years jockeys title is that because he's the 4th best jockey in the country or riding a tonne of steering jobes for Daddy?. Wildman was right, Barry Geraghty had a few lean years because the good rides started to dry up after the likes of Moscow and Kicking, but when Mick Fitz had his career ending injury he was given the nod for the Henderson job and the big winners started to flow again. Moral of story good horses make good jockeys and very rich owners make good trainers.. |
|
By:
what are ye on about...barry geraghty has always been a brilliant jockey....tom ryan was never any good....geraghty is 20 times a better jockey than fitzgerald ever was.....henderson had his career resurrected by geraghty.....not the other way round....patrick mullins not so bad either....keeps it simple and very few mistakes.... as for manning and lordan....ffs.....manning is a great jockey....always in the right place.....lordan is a nothing rider......manning has won classics.....lordan is a flapper jock....
|
|
By:
bunker your 7 contribution since 2002?you must feel very strongly on jockeys...?i dont think many would agree with your assertion that lordan is a nothing rider.
|
|
By:
7th
|
|
By:
Who said Geraghty wasn't a good jockey?, I just said by his standards he had a few leaner years, I don't think Henderson's career needed resurrecting?, 20 times better than Mick Fitzgerald is an insult to Fitzgerald and a way OTT assessment of Geraghtys ability.
And I also just highlighted how Mullins is not entirely dependent on Ruby Walsh, because Townend was able to win the jockey's title because Ruby was absent for most of the season and then you have Patrick Mullins finishing 4th in this years jockeys championship when most people wouldn't have him within an asses roar of most professional jockeys riding in Ireland today?. |
|
By:
Robbie has big priced winner the other day, Kate rides a bumper winner and Fran has a nice priced double tonight.
|
|
By:
have a feeling some guys will want to post on this thread after the 6.40...
|
|
By:
Maybe the best horse won but Power rides this horse (STF) like he's terrified of falling off and afraid the horse won't get the trip,not a bit of positivity from him for 2mls 1 furlong tonight,just seemed to be happy enough getting around.
I'd no bet in it but I would have been expecting him to be a bit more aware of what was going on around him after the last run. |
|
By:
i backed it..wouldnt blame him.he brought the hosre with a run.wasnt good enough.end of story.
|
|
By:
^^^mug punter and a snitch!^^^
 |