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Glens Melody The Sequence Of Events
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There is something seriously wrong with you,you create no threads other than the ten or so you created about me,childish smut mixed with fantasy is your trademark you lurk here every day creating alliances with like minded posters( Rocketfingers and the Double O) and you have this morbid fear of non aggressive posts.
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get over urself with ur obsessive pet names again wildbore/dark rosaleen........such a sad life that u cant go a day without mentioning me
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You are funny you complain about what you call obsessive pet names and then follow it with two of your own and you have form in this regard in that you and the third member of the Unholy Trinity refer to yourselves in the third person and call yourselves Batman and Robin.
Ye also share another common trait in that you also create numerous threads about me ones that I am not on and complain that I am stalking you,it's obvious you don't understand irony. |
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you mention my name everyday,itd usually on ur verp ist post....why?
dark rosaleen is not a pet name,its ur previous user name on here as everyone knows |
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That Glens Melody isint half improving.
Every time she runs she proves Willie Mullins right,she is the best mare in his yard which incidentally is what he told RTE and his big punters at Christmas,its also what Richters said from the start. |
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tavelled very very well today wmfb......the doubters will beg to differ......holds an entry for the neptune.....cant see her goin there myself......
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Wildman was the wonderfully honest Willie trying yet again to send punters into a spin by suggesting?
"We have two in the 2m 4f mares novice hurdle. There is only 1lb between them on official ratings and Patrick will probably put up a couple of pounds overweight on Tasitiocht. However, she is doing good work at home and it won’t be a surprise if she finishes in front of Glens Melody (Paul) today" |
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When it comes to writing about his horses Willie Mullins is the most duplicitous of all.
I have no problem with a trainer not telling people about their horses but when they are paid by a paper and then write downright lies that's when I object,again today the usual anodyne rubbish but the one relevant fact is retained for himself and his layers. Marasonnien is Cops And Robbers like in the wind department but naturally not a word. |
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The mere mention of the name "Paddy Mullins" use to send my Grandfather into anaphylactic shock, he had an allergic reaction everytime you mentioned the guys name, effing gangster, screw his own mother etc etc.
I don't think he ever had a bet on Irish as long as I was putting bets on for him, he's long dead now but goes to show the almost paranoid suspicion many Irish punters had/have on Irish racing and its protaganists. Willie a chip off the old block, almost pre programmed to put you away, or at least have a negative vibe in nearly every sentence. |
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Maybe the negative vibes from trainers have turned a few away from gambling.....some of the people and families you told us about before might get a proper meal now instead of betting on non triers.
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Paddy Mullins was a great trainer but he perfected the art of minimising a horses chance by having it ridden from the front,just go off too fast.
He also liked a little tickle generally at big prices. Johnny Roe rode a three year old maiden for him at the Curragh one day,Paddy told him not today,the horse finished fourth,Roe came in saying " what are you doing to me Paddy that is one serious maiden you must let me ride him next time out " A couple of weeks later Paddy books Roe for a maiden in Gowran,Johnny Roe tells all his punters about this certainty so they all travel down to Gowran and punt the living daylights out of it. The race goes to plan horse travels like a dream hits the front at the furlong pole but much to Roes amazement a horse flies by him and beats him into second,Roe perplexed and disappointed rides into the parade ring to find Paddy Mullins with the winner,he later discovers it was backed from 33/1 into 12/1. |
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Nasty gant very nasty, regardless of a difference of opinion I did think you were immune to most juvenile retorts, it seems I was wrong?.
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You were the one who told us the story about families going hungry due to non triers........gambling is a dangerous disease.
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First off I thought you were pointing the finger at me, apoligies.
I gamble and I drink but never has either effected my family, she gets her money I keep my own few quid and everybody is happy. So you mean problem gamblers then?, but even they deserve some sympathy, some horse stopped by x trainer might just mean a family going without. |
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Another argument gant, where would racing be if people couldn't gamble on the product?.
Back to the days of the lords and dukes eh? |
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I am sorry but if a family goes without due to a horse being stopped/blocked in /falls the person placing the bet is better off away from that family.
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I'm not going to get into the moral ins and outs, gambling is an addiction, just like many other addictions, be it chocolate etc?.
You didn't seem to answer my point, that these people in racing who have made a pretty decent living (some stinking rich) are only doing so becasue of a human weakness called gambling, remove gambling from the equation and they'll be nobodies once again in an instant, just like the so called dregs of society that prop up the betting shops?. |
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I don't know anyone who has made money out of gambling so I am unable to answer the question. Bar the big bookmaking chains.
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There's a winner in every race, but yet when you back a horse you're usually going in blind, you hope the trainer has him off today, if it doesn't win and finishes 3rd or 4th but ran a good race you can except that, the horse was off but wasn't good enough, but when a horse who has an outstanding chance on the book runs like a drain and tails off for no apparent reason only that the trainer never had it out of its box for a month (information the public is never privy to), its your tough sh!t, you lost your money sunshine and how dare you moan about it?.
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Until it goes like the premiership and all managers/trainers have to have a weekly press conference, we will always be a bit in the dark.
As my grandfather used to say.......put good money on good horses in good races. |
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I'm not a hot shot backer gant, but you'd be forgiven for thinking that "Thousand Stars" had found an ideal opportunity at Navan in the Boyne hurdle, surely a penalty kick?, not only was the horse totally stuffed finishing last of 6 for no apparent reason, but to rub salt in the wound a stable companion having a pop around hurdles before his tilt at the National actually wins the race?.
It was blatantly obvious that TS was not off a yard, and not as much as a whimper from the gravy trainers, oh how they're well aware that they've not only got the regulators by the bollix but the media also. Who's next for a racing personality autobiography?, to really kill any objective view the media might afford the betting public?. |
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To be honest I couldn't care less about so called racing personalities.......any lads I kn
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silver theres no logic in what u say.they are not machines.there was no unusual betting patterns.the rag wasnt backed.ts started at the price he should have.it just ran like a drain..im not saying the outfit are squeaky clean but your using a wrong example..
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What really bugs me Gant, in many racing jurisdictions the players play by the rules particulary in the far east and nobody complains, because if they step out of line hell to pay!.
In Irish racing there are rules written on paper alright but not worth the paper its written on, all hot air. Every trainer owner and jockey can play by their own rules without any real concern of ever falling foul of those rules that have as much clout as a feather duster. Fear" is the operative word here, they have no fear, they know can do what ever the hell they like. |
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Kavvie 1/2fav finishes last of 6 beaten 40L's, now that to me needs some explaining?
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Kavvie, why was he 1/2 fav?, maybe because the horse had by far the best form in the book, but I can always live by that old chestnut "They're not machines" machines when the trainer feels like it!.
A 1/2 fav should not be beaten like that, and to have a media so subservient really makes this game a chore sometimes!. |
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there must have been a reason ..maybe he had a virus?injured?scoped badly?no reason to stop him.hes not a handicapper
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No kavvie that is the problem, too easy to except every tom dick harry excuse the trainer will offer, when sometimes its just staring you in the face, the trainer had no intention whatsoever of winning the race!.
Oh was that a stable companion who already had his national weight in the bag that won the race? |
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Willie Mullins as he has done before feels he needs to deflect some pressure from Patrick as he feels it is getting to him.
He makes sure that Glens Melody will have a watching brief only and will only go if Zuzka is already beaten, he knows that if he were to let the usual suspects know this [i]there would be a plunge of all plunges on Zuzka and an unholy drift on Glens Melody this would come to the stewards notice. Drastic measures are needed so he is first interviewed on TV where he intimates that Glens Melody is the better of the two, he tells his main punter to back Glens and then sends a number of texts telling some trusted friends to not only back Glens Melody but not to back Outlander in the bumper. More races are lost at the start than at the finish so Glens Melody jumps off at the back and races wide and continues to race wide all goes perfect in the race, Zuzka travels well throughout the race and has it won turning in. Now Glens Melody gets the hurry up in the hope of getting second place she just fails.[/i] PRESUME the plunge is ON tomorrow at 2.10 in Naas  |
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Who is Willie's main punter referred to in original post?
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Who is Willie's main punter referred to in original post?
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Glens Melody showed today she is a far better mare than Zuzka and also proved that she wasn't let run on her merits at Christmas.
Willie Mullins is a brilliant trainer but he trains the horses for himself and a small owner like Fiona McStay is always given the run around,this mare is a champion and running her as second string is against her interests,she has been badly placed.Rich Ricci is the money man in that stable and things are run for his benefit.Annie Power is an exceptional mare and has a career on the flat ahead of her but her hurdling is that good she would have no problems beating colts and geldings. Glens Melody has been blackguarded all season and she had an unnecessary hard race today,first by David Casey stupidly persisting with the inside causing her to get two hefty bumps,secondly by her having to chase a champion like Annie Power and the two mistakes at the last two flights didnt help. Normally you would take the mare home but in this instance Fiona McStay needs to demand some say into where Glens Melody runs as the horse would deteriorate if trained by anyone else. |
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Well beaten 2nd on the day with missunited and Zuska running no sort of race, salt, of and pinch are words that spring to mind wildmanfromborneo.
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You are consistent,are you incapable of following any thread.Get someone to explain my last post to you.
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All about blacktype and an experienced breeder like Fiona McStay knows the game well. Good pot today and a colt foal worth an extra 20k for that 2nd today.
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Thanks gant, pretty summed up what i was saying to him about 3 pages ago.
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This mare should be unbeaten and already has black type,she will have no problem getting more.
Annie Power should have been taking on the colts leaving that mares race to Glens Melody,also for me Annie Power is a potential St Leger winner and should be trained for a more lucrative and less dangerous flat campaign. |
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Rocketfingers this thread is not for you,you can't remember what you posted five minutes ago never mind three pages ago but if you like to bring it back we can all laugh together.
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So you're saying a top owner breeder has no say over her horse, i believe you said this was the best mare Mullins had it training a few pages ago, well that's clearly false, now that's a laugh right up with your Joseph O'Brien has no chance of being champion jockey in 2012.
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Glens Melody was the best mare in his stable at that time,it is clear now that Annie Power has passed her out,you had no opinion on the matter then and are just engaging in your usual after timing now.
I will state it again for you Willie Mullins trains the horses as if they are his own,this is the downside of having horses in the best National Hunt yard in Ireland. |