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Getting near the time for these events again. Anyone know of dates/ venues /lineups for any of these at this early stage?
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February 28th 2013
Waterford Cheltenham Preview will be held on Thursday in Woodlands Hotel, Dunmore Road, Waterford. Panel: John Francome, Mick Fitzgerald, Nick Luck, Davy Russell, Tom Segal (Pricewise) Mike Cattermole, Noel O’Brien, Hayley O’Connor. A few surprise guests will also come along to the evening. Tickets €20 from Woodlands Hotel. The usual suspects on the panel - always decent craic in the bar afterwards. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPoFiDbDSaw
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Goes to show you the respect they have for the betting public, see link above. Walsh says the punters money doesn't go back into racing, where does he think the 3% levy the bookmakers are absorbing from the punter is going?, to help the poor in Africa?, it becomes part of the annual goverment handout for HRI of course, and who props up the Tote?, I'm sure it's the punter wouldn't you think?, and I wonder where the racecourse's would be if the public stopped turning up in the morning, no tv money could save them?, the sheer arrogance of the guy!.
I went to a few of these in the past, and they can be good fun sometimes, but don't think for one second they're there for the love of the betting public, you'd be forgotten about the second they put the microphone down for the last time, but throw them a tri colour at Cheltenham and they'll milk it for all its worth, as if they are the hero instead of the horse underneath them that they just steered home. 60,000 pack the stands on Gold Cup day and the vast majority of them will be punters. |
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That interview with Ruby was a disgrace. He got away with absolute murder. If Big Mac had any sort of clue, he could have absolutely buried Ruby for his ignorant comments. Money derived from betting tax makes up just over half of the Horse and Greyhound Fund which finances the sport and much of the prize money which Ruby is very happy to take his 8% of. Not to mention the fact that the industry is being propped up to an extent by SIS money which is only there because of the value of punters to the bookmakers. True, jockeys will always have more direct loyalty to owners/trainers, but they should have respect for punters and the important role they play in the industry.
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Amazing a post from Redbait without his usual a new low for the forum,nothing ignorant in what Ruby Walsh said as the punter no longer pays,they scrapped betting tax some while back.
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Never scrapped wildman there has been a 3% levy for good few years now, the bookmakers decided to absorb it themselves rather than pass it onto the punter, obviously their profit margins allowed them to do so.
I'm not sure how much the 3% levy generates every year, but I'd say its pretty substantial?, and when the goverment is dishing out their annual gift to HRI all that levy is included. |
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Actually wildman I think there is a 1% levy on turnover and another 2% on all winning bets, I'm open to correction, and it looks like there will be a levy introduced for all offshore and online bets, will the bookmakers absorb this too or will they be left with no choice but to pass it on to the punter?.
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The tax arrangements between bookmaker and the government is their business but the fact remains that the betting tax on punters has been scrapped.The other fact that the industry is given a large amount of taxpayers money could be twisted into showing that it is non punters who pay for it,drinkers smokers etcetera.
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Wildman,
Your senility is well established, but I have absolutely no idea what you're on about with this constant "a new low for the forum" reference you make with regard to me, as I never said such a thing. As well as that, you are just as ignorant as Walsh if you think the betting tax was scrapped. It's 3% and it generated over €25m for the racing industry last year. Educate yourself before commenting. I won't be replying to you again on this thread, as life is too short to engage in petty squabbles with the likes of you. |
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Redbait that reply isint worthy of you.
Calling people senile and ignorant is not debating but you are looking at it from the industry point of view in that you get 3 per cent of bookmakers turnover I look at it from the punters point and know that I pay no tax on my bets,that is indisputable. |
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The punter still pays indirectly wildman, bookmakers need plenty of customers to generate turnover and the more losing punters they have the less they have to absorb to pay the goverment on winning bets, but I'm sure the bookies have squeezed their margins a little to offset this?.
Do you remember the days of 20% betting tax?, it gradually decreased over the years, but where did all that money go wildman, to prop up the then struggling racing industry I presume?. |
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It didn't actually that went straight into the governments coffers.
When you go down the road of indirectly paying that applies to all forms of tax whether its vat or corporation tax,you are then into which type of punter is doing the losing,is it the ones betting on football or the ones betting on numbers go down that road and racing would lose its funding. I will miss Redbaits catchphrase of " a new low for the forum " but for him to deny saying it is incredible as he has used on numerous occasions generally in a superior way. |
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Just to clarify....Bets places in betting offices attract a duty of 1% on the stake payable by the bookmaker.Bets placed online, by telephone or on an exchange attract no duty but it is proposed to change this.
For what its worth I agree with earlier sentiments regarding Ruby Walsh and his near contempt for punters. |
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Its simple lads. If there were no punters there would be no racing. There would be no racing on tv no sponsors - there would be zilch. I believe Ruby is the best NH jockey probably of all time and I have defended him time after time on these forums but his statement to put it mildly was stupid
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There is tiny prize money in point to points plus wealthy horse owners in the past had private wagers.
The word punter is used in its broad sense but does that include thr FOBT players the lads that bet on the virtual racing and the Roulette punters. |
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Tolmi is right, it's 1% on turnover. It generated just over €25m in 2011 which was just over half the entire Horse and Greyhound Fund. For Ruby to suggest that punter's money doesn't go back to HRI is 100% incorrect. Over 50% of the money he earns from prize money can be traced back to punter's stakes.
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I think Arklearkle's post at 11.25 sums up my views precisely.
There are no FOBT's legal here wildman (thankfully) but in the UK they do not attract levy.A bet on virtual racing here has duty payable on it. |
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Sunday 3rd March 2013
Cheltenham Preview Night in aid of The National Rehabilitation Hospital in The Louis Fitzgerald Hotel Newlands Cross at 7.45 sharp. Doors open at 7pm. Admission only €15 which includes programme and finger food (served from 7pm to 7.30pm) Super Panel of Barry Geraghty, Davy Russell, Jessie Harrington, Tony Mullins, Robert Power, Niall Quinn and Matt Chapman as MC. There is a super raffle on the same night and you could win a 10% share in a Horse for one year with the successful supreme horse racing club at only €10. Tickets available from Paul on 087 249 6074 or Louis Fitzgerald Hotel 01 403 3300 Wed. 6th March 2013 Cheltenham Preview Night in aid of Pieta House, Suicide Prevention Compare: Desie Scahill with guests Robbie Power, Andrew Lynch and more. Dunboyne Castle Hotel, Wed. 6th March 2013, 8pm. Admission €15, FREE €5 Bet courtesy of **** |
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Festival Preview Evenings (from 2012) will be somewhat similiar in 2013 in Engerland I guess
Below is a schedule of those usual Cheltenham Festival Preview Evenings. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday 21 February 2012 - Paddy Power Cheltenham Festival Preview - 7.00pm Champion trainer Paul Nicholls, Phillip Hobbs, David Pipe and the Racing Post’s Andrew King will be on the panel to answer all your questions about their runners at the Festival of jump racing and to give their opinions their rivals runners. Channel 4 Racing’s Tanya Stevenson will host the evening and Paddy Power will advice on market movers, bankers and blow outs. Join us from 6pm, with the panel starting at 7pm, on February 21 for an evening of informed entertainment. Tickets cost £20 each and include a hot supper. To book call on 01392 832599 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday Feb 28th 2012 - Charity Cheltenham Preview Night - 7.00pm Haydock Park Racecourse, Lancashire, England Host: Matt Chapman. Panel includes Mick Fitzgerald, Niall Hannity, Richard Johnson, Paddy Brennan and Simon Clare. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday Feb 28th-Bangor On Dee Racecourse, Wales, Doors open 6:45pm To be held in The Paddock Restaurant Panel: Donald McCain, Stewart Machin, Darren Owen, John Morris, Paul Jones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday March 1nd-Charity Festival Preview in aid of Racing Welfare. 7.30pm Richmond Comrades Club, North Yorkshire, England. Chairman: Bill Warby. Panel: Ferdy Murphy, Andy Gibson, George Richardson (G.R Racing) & a Jockey tbc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monday 4 March 2012 - Starsports Cheltenham Festival Preview - 7.30pm Ton Pentre Football Club, Rhondda Valley, South Wales Panel: Richard Johnson, Tim Vaughan, Tony Ennis and Luke Tarr. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday 5 March 2012 - Starsports Cheltenham Festival Preview - 8.00pm Revelstoke Hotel, Flamborough Road, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, England, YO15 2HU Panel includes Tony Stafford, Brian Ellison, Lee James, Kristian Strangeway, Matt Bisogno and Cathryn Fry (of JPFestival.com) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday 5 March 2012 - Scarborough Manor Racing Cheltenham Festival Preview - 7.00pm Haselbury Mill, Crewkerne, Somerset, England TA18 7NY Panel includes Mick Fitzgerald, Jonathan Powell, Harry Fry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday 8 March 2012 - Betfred Cheltenham Festival Preview Evening - 6.45pm with dinner 7.15pm Plumpton Racecourse, Sussex, England Panel includes Mick Fitzgerald, Richard Hoiles, Mark Winstanley, Gary Moore, George Primarolo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday 8th March-Starsports Cheltenham Preview in aid of Racing Welfare. 7pm start. Memorial Hall, High St, Newmarket, England. Hosted by William Haggas. Panel: Paul Webber, Claud Duval, Anthony Bromley, Steve Smith -Eccles & Luke Tarr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday March 9th- Almada Suite, Council Buildings, Hamilton, Scotland. Panel: Iain Turner, Garry Owen, Mark Howard, Ian Robinson & a Trainer/Jockey tbc. For further details please tweet: @abbottracingnow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sunday March 10th-The Official Festival Preview Evening. 7pm. Cheltenham Racecourse, Cheltenham, England. Panel includes: Alan Lee (Chair), Gordon Elliott, Jason Maguire, Noel O'Brien, Tanya Stephenson & Mick Fitzgerald. Views from the betting market by Sporting Bet's Russ Wiseman. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monday March 11th-The Hollow Bottom, Guiting Power, Cheltenham, England. 7pm Panel: Richard Hoiles, Andy Gibson, Gary Wiltshire & Carl Llewellyn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monday 11 March - The Golden Heart, Nettleton Bottom, Nr Cheltenham, England. 8pm Panel: Dave Makin and David Morgan plus audience as session involves discussion with audience. |
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Does anyone know of any possible Festival preview nights in Cork city?
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The Orish wons in 2012......presume most of these will be on again in 2013 (just change the dates accordingly)
Mon.27th.Feb.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CO.KILDARE, Paddy Murphy's Bar, Ballymore Eustace. 8pm. All prodeeds going towards Temple Street Hospital. Free Entry & Free €5 bet for all those in attendance. MC: Pat Nolan Panel: Andrew Lynch, Gordon Elliot, 'Shark' Hanlon, Damien McElroy, Fran Flood, Paddy Aspell, Darragh Fitzpatrick & Paddy Power representative. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CO.DUBLIN, Strand Bar, Rush. 8pm. €10. In aid of Pieta House. Panel Denis Kirwan (MC), Oliver Brady, Andrew Lynch, Ado McGuinness, Brian Flanagan and The Sam Maguire Cup. Wed.29th.Feb.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 15, Westmanstown Sports & Conf. Centre, 8pm SHARP. In Aid of 'Tania McCabe Foundation'. €20 plus available at (01) 8207888, price includes a €5 free bet with Paddy Power and finger food Draw Prizes; Trip for two to Gold Cup, Annual Badges 2012 for top Racecourses, VIP Tickets to Leinster Football Final 2012, one year free gym membership and many more. Ivan Yeats (MC), Ruby Walsh, Barry Geraghty, Davy Russell, Jessica Harrington, Colm Murphy, Donn McClean (The Sunday Times), Paddy Poor Conference Call: Willie Mullins & Paul Nicholls. Sponsors Paddy Poor. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CO.MEATH, Ratoath GAA Club. 8pm. Tickets €15. (incl. finger food and free €10.00 “match bet” sponsored by Bruce Betting). Des Scahill (MC), Paul Carberry, Nina Carberry, Andrew Lynch, Robbie Hennessy, Patrick Mullins (with other panellists to be announced). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CO.KILDARE, Osprey Hotel, Naas. 8pm. Cheltenham Festival Quiz In aid of the Irish Motor Neuron Disease Association. €40 for a table of 4. Thurs.1st.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WATERFORD, Woodlands Hotel. 8pm. Proceeds to Vincent de Paul and Waterford Branch of Alzheimers Society. Panel John Francome, Jim McGrath (Channel 4), Nick Luck, Mike Cattermole, Noel O'Brien, Tom Segal (aka Pricewise), Jessica Harrington, Ted Walsh, Davy Russell and Hayley O'Connor (Sadblokes sponsors). Tickets €20. Fri.2nd.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.TIPPERARY, The Vilage Inn, Moyglass. 8pm. Free entry and Raffle in Association with Moyglass National School Parents Association. Panel Ken Whelan MC, Philip Fenton, Thomond O’Mara, Philip Enright, Mark Boylan to sing The Festival Live and Hayes Bookmakers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 15, St.Peregines GAA Club, Blanchardstown. 7.30pm. Panel Denis Kirwan MC, Paul Carberry, Robbie Hennessy, Donn McClean, Damien McElroy and Donal McCarthy (Star Sports). €15 incl. free bet and a goody bag. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.MEATH, Donaghmore/Ashbourne GAA Club. 8pm. In Aid of the Arkle Memorial Statue Fund. Panel Tony O'Hehir (Rte, Compere), Jim Dreaper, Andrew Lynch, Brian Flanagan (Star) and other special guests Tickets €20 (incl.free bet with Sponsors Bambury Bookmakers) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.KERRY, Kilarney Racecourse. 8:30pm Kevin O'Ryan (MC). Matt Chapman, Paddy Wilmott, Bryan Cooper, Andrew McNamara, Hayley O'Connor. €15 available from the Racecourse. Sun.4th.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 18, The Stillorgan Park Hotel. 7.45pm. In aid of the Irish Horse Welfare Trust (IHWT) and the National Rehabilitation Hospital (NRH) Matt Chapman MC, Barry Geraghty, Davy Russell, Jessica Harrington, Tony Mullins, Henry de Bromhead, Leo Powell, Noel O’Brien & Barry Orr (Betfair). €20 incl. finger food. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.LIMERICK, Dunraven Arms Hotel, Adare. Nick Luck (MC), Tom Segal, Philip Hobbs, Tim Sherwood, Andrew McNamara, Richard Johnson and more €32 (ticket only) includes full dinner. Mon.5th.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BELFAST, Europa Hotel. 8pm. Gary O'Brien, Gordon Elliot, Paul Townend, Richard Hoiles, Mark Winstanley, Paddy Wilmott, Brian Graham & Ronan Graham. £10 includes £5 free bet with Sean Graham. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.KILDARE, Kavanaghs Pub, Naas. Jessica Harrington, Paul Carberry, Niall Cronin, Leon Blanche. Tues.6th.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.MONAGHAN, Glencarn Hotel, Castleblayney. 7.30pm Sharp. In aid of Heart Cardiac Research. Presented by Shabra Charity Foundation with Sponsors Paddy Poor & The Racing Post €20.00 including free €5.00 Paddy Poor Bet & entry into draw for €500.00 Bet. Panel Matt Chapman (MC), D.K. Weld, Jonnny Ward, Oliver Brady, Henry De Bromhead, John Cullen, Patrick W Mullins, Peter Casey, Tony Martin, Frank Berry, Paddy Poor, Michael Hourigan, Des Scahill and Special Guest Tommy Bowe. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.DUBLIN, Brady’s of Shankill, Main Street, Shankill. 6.30pm. In Aid of what charity ????? Denis Kirwan (TV3) (MC) Robbie Power, Gordon Elliott, Donn McClean, Damien McElroy, Dave Keena Special VIP Guest – to be announced on the night Wed.7th.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.LAOIS, Heritage Hotel, Portlaoise. 8pm. All proceeds going towards Autism Laois/Offaly. Free Entry with Free €5 bet for all those in attendance. Panel Pat Nolan MC, Robbie McNamara, Andrew Leigh, Andrew Lynch, Martin Murphy (HRI), Darragh Fitzpatrick, Justin O'Hanlon & Paddy Poor rep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 18, The Pavillion, Leopardstown Racecourse. In aid of Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association. Jonathan Mullin, Willie Mullins, Tom Segal, Anthony Bromley and Paudie Hassett. €20 incl. €10 bet, copy of the Racing Posts Cheltenham Guide, Copy of the Racing Post on arrival & the following days on departure, entry into a VIP draw for Cheltenham & entry to Spoilsports.com Day at the Punchestown Festival (24th April). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.KILDARE. Glen Royal Hotel, Maynooth. Dessie Hughes, Jim McGrath, Andrew Lynch, Gordon Elliot, Tony O'Heir, Noel O'Brien, Damien McElroy, Nina Carberry. Tickets: €20 with €20 free bet. Thur.8th.March.2012. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.KILDARE, Bridgewater Inn, Sallins. 8pm. All proceeds going towards Sallins Primary School. Free Entry with Free €5 bet for all those in attendance. Panel Pat Nolan MC, Robbie McNamara, Andrew Leigh, Andrew Lynch, Martin Murphy (HRI), Brian Flanagan, Darragh Fitzpatrick, Justin O'Hanlon & Paddy Poor rep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 6, Francis Mckenna’s Pub, Harold’s Cross Bridge. 8pm. In Aid of the Irish Motor Neuron Disease Association. ”COVERING THE HANDICAPS”. Panel yet to be finalised but usually include Patrick Mullins, Roger Loughran, Andrew Lynch, Ado McGuinness, Ryan McElligott (Irish Field) and other SPECIAL GUESTS ! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DUBLIN 2. Café en Seine, Dawson Street. 6.30pm. Panel Denis Kirwan MC, Barry Geraghty, Donn McClean, Gary O’Brien, Dave Keena and Kevin O’Ryan. Free entry, complimentary food served, all welcome. Sponsored by Bet daq. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Co.WICKLOW, Mac’s Lounge, Powerscourt Arms Country House, Enniskerry Village. Matt Chapman (MC) Panel of top jockeys and trainers incl. Graham Bradley & David Casey Free €25 ‘matching bet’ on the night with Star Spreads. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (© Catch Me ifyoucan) |
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anybody thats in the liverpool area on monday the 4th march
old railway club melling road aintree doors open 7.45 the panel charlie longsdon, john parrot, ben pauling(assistant trainer to nicky henderson) andy holding, chairman john morris (jumping prospects.com) prizes and raffles, for info please contact info@jumpingprospects.com |
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Wednesday 6th March 2013 @ 8pm
VENUE: WESTMANSTOWN SPORTS & CONFERENCE CENTRE, DUBLIN 15 PANEL: Jonathan Mullin, Racing Post Editor (MC), Davy Russell, Barry Geraghty, Ruby Walsh, Tom ‘Pricewise’ Segal, Paddy Power (Bookmaker), Henry De Bromhead and live Conference Call with Willie Mullins and Paul Nicholls. Information: All proceeds in aid of ‘Paul Kennedy Appeal Fund’ and the ‘Sean Chew Trust’, Tickets €20 including €10 matched Bet, Racing Post Cheltenham Preview Book, Free Finger Food. Raffle with a host of prizes including an all expenses paid day trip for two to the Cheltenham Gold Cup. Tickets available at (01) 8207888 (Mon to Fri, 9am to 5pm) and selected Paddy Power shops |
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John parrot?
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Going to go where Hayley O'Connor is going
 , nah would like to get to one but i don't think it will be possible with work schedule. |
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YOU ARE ON THE DOLE YA CLOWN!
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Monday 4th March 2013
Salthill Hotel, Galway Peter Casey, Patrick Mullins, Barney Curley, Davy Russell, Hector, Paul Kealy, Matt Williams, Anthony Bromley & Nicky Henderson(live conference) Tickets cost €20, which include a €10 free bet from John Mullollands and a Racing Post goody bag and all money raised goes directly to the charity |
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Westmanstown was a very good one last year,i may take that one in again this year.
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Co Tyrone.. Cookstown, Glenavon House Hotel.
Wednesday 6th March @8pm Panel AP McCoy, Shark Hanlon & Danny Mullins.. |
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Apologies in advance for stupid question but where exactly is Westmanstown?
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a golf course somewhere near Lucan
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Oufie it is west of Castleknock. Coming out from Dublin turn left at Myos. Turn right on to Carpenstown rd then along Porterstown rd. At a guess at least 3 km from Myos. You need to look it up on a map. Was at last years - a big crowd and very well run but no winners. It is a golf club - an incredible set-up and a relic from tiger days. Owned by our good friends with the big shoes.
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back of lucan village near the strawberry beds , also near fort lucan ....at the roundabout its tiny btw , in lucan village , beside the bank take a left , cross over the bridge , head straight as if heading for clonee , as you approach another bridge take a right just before the bridge , after a couple of hundred yards take a left ..westmanstown is then on your left hand side roughly 200yds its the garda golf club...hth....
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it's also where the Garda lsl football team play,A smashing set up,pitch out there is like carpet.
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They're goiong for a racing preview night not a game of football Bore.
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Mind you don't get shot!
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fearless-garda-armed-with-hurley-halts-gunman-attack-26515968.html |
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Chelt,
Catch Me ifyoucan 22 Feb 12 08:16 Garda Long Shadow is the organiser every year SO TAKE IT AS OFFICIAL !!! NO Ivan Yeats (as MC) this year. |
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Bring a driver if you want to partake proper drink.
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