Gant I don't no nuttin about groupies

and Rocket not suir where it is that you hang out, but if you in the west coast no need for a baler as who needs baled ferns
and of course if its Tallaght area you'd only be baling goats knobs

no offence intended.........

Once again the IGB manage to make a 'horlocks' out of the top Irish competition of the year, i.e the Derby. Four runner heats, five runner heats and all to prolong the competition, and not for the benefit of the dog. I don't think its right for all dogs in  heats to qualify in such a prestigious stake. This is not even a back door. Surely this ruins the spectacle and is not done for the good of the racing dog. I can't believe that a dog that fell in his heat, KO, is still in the competition after getting to his feet to finish, last. Is this a joke or not ?. Lots of doges picking up injuries also, so why could it not have been run as a 96 dog competition ?. Sadly I think they have got this wrong again. Shameful treatment of the connections last weekend when the identity cards were left at home. Not allowed run, when the cards were being rushed up later and all the information on the IGB site re identity etc.  This should not have been a problem.

You can't bend the rules for certain trainers and expect the small man to obey them.
When the stake didn't fill it would have been hard to change the date of the final..........5 qualifying in the 1st round was a joke but that's life.
So you are blaming the IGB for the stake not filling. It will turn out to be a serious derby and the men will be sorted from the boys next weekend..........always easy to knock from the sidelines.

Correct jaytrump......I am well aware of what's happening in the real world outside of Saturday night in Shelbourne. Friends of mine put an A1 dog in and done their €300 (their choice). Dogs are scarce and it will get worse......money just aint there.
Tracks are sending out letters to owners now looking for certain dogs to fill stakes.
The Bar One sprint was 6 dogs short of filling and a dog that was 5th in his 1st round heat is now in the final.
Most of us notice that the same faces are still complaining in bad times.........feeding a journalist only brigs the grant into the spotlight.

I agree Workrider........The chap who does security at the back gate at HRX is a big Shamrock Rovers fan and he compared it to the way the LOI has gone.

A few rough years ahead, except this time money is just not there to cover the cracks. Sure if you roll over they will tickle your belly.

Kavvie, loads of lads that were once involved want to see the whole house of cards tumble.

To be fair if trials are pre booked they should be honoured. I had 2 solo's privates pre booked at Dundalk one Saturday morning and some auld gob>Hite arrived with 4 dogs, they were not booked in so him being a big name created a scene but was told to wait until a gap appeared to fit him in.........trials were delayed by 30 mins.

You can't book qualifying trials, can you?.

Kavvie what track did this happen at?. Booking qualifying trials at a trialing session is a new one to me.

you can guess

Can anyone tell me how to bring up tonights card at dundalk ..its showing just as racing tonight at dundalk but its not allowing me access...

Probably the only track that doesn't do private trials.......Am I right.
That's bad form we wouldn't be as quiet out in the sticks if it happened.

Thanks Gant , I'm gonna go now ...Horse racing and the dogs all in one ...You cant beat that ..might see you there...?

prem why are you so agressive?were having a nice exchange of views and you come on all fcuking?go easy man

PF........well said.

Kavvie........No sport is without it's faults.

Obviously one shouldn't really be laying dogs in this Derby without putting in the required homework. If 5 dogs are drawn to run in a heat, and if 5 are allowed qualify from that particular heat well that does mean that all the dogs in that heat are going through. They are all going to turn up in the next round so you really got to do the homework if your laying them. No ifs or buts about that. Just do the sums.

Not So Scottish ( a decent enough dog around Shel. Pk.), was knocked over and yet went through to the next round. For the record he finished a distant last.For anyone to say different is not correct, just check this dogs form on IGB.

Lets just stick to facts.

Any one remember the old crosswords on the Sunday Indo ?. Used to go something like.....Its easy to [b]?ind[/b] people up on here, put in the missing letter its either F....M....or [b]W[/b].........

On a much more serious note Puma sustained a broken hock, and that follows on form 2 similar injuries to dogs from the KK stable. Not good something amiss, in Shel Pk., and Puma's trainer is upset over the track surface. Obviously the long dry spell has had a very bad effect on the track esp., that first bend...........

Just to add , I was very impressed with Dundalk yesterday . It was my first time horseracing there since the 90s ..I went a few times to the greyhounds and had a few runners there since it was refurbished . I never bothered going since they reopened the Racetrack , have to say i was impressed , viewing is not the greatest , but overall its a pleasant enough place , having eaten before heading off around 1 pm , I was feeling a little peckish around 7pm and decided to have a little snack , there was a huge line of people waiting in line , a young lady appeared with a notebook , took orders from each person , as you arrived at the counter your meal was ready ...Really smooth and quick , the food was fresh and great value ..So again I'll say well done Dundalk ...

What , and have you dissect my every move  Thickster....

AGREED Gant , thought it showed massive promise ...If i remember correctly it didn't break well , but finished like a rocket ......Really sorry for Martin , he was devastated ....Off out for awhile , talk soon...