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Tote Ireland's rollover policy appears to have changed quietly recently, so don't be tricked into having a go at the jackpot at Wexford or Clonmel or Navan this week if you noticed that the jackpot wasn't won at Fairyhouse on Sunday ...
Monday's Racing Post and
https://www.thetote.com/news/206#
both say "Jackpot €7,992 Punchestown 9th December"
and the latter web page says that an unwon pool will "roll over to the next applicable race or race meeting."
https://www.thetote.com/bet_types/77#
says "rolled over to the next selected race meeting".
https://www.thetote.com/news/59#
still says "You can play the Irish Jackpot with the Tote on any Irish race meeting."
I haven't yet found any definition of the little words "applicable" or "selected".
For more years that I care to remember, rollovers have gone to the next race day, or for a number of years to the next race day at the same course, but it has still been necessary to check several different unreliable sources to confirm whether there is a rollover. This new discretionary policy promises to make these sources even less trustworthy and cause even more confusion.
I have heard nothing recently about the prospects of Tote Ireland pools reappearing on the Betfair website any time soon.
Monday's Racing Post and
https://www.thetote.com/news/206#
both say "Jackpot €7,992 Punchestown 9th December"
and the latter web page says that an unwon pool will "roll over to the next applicable race or race meeting."
https://www.thetote.com/bet_types/77#
says "rolled over to the next selected race meeting".
https://www.thetote.com/news/59#
still says "You can play the Irish Jackpot with the Tote on any Irish race meeting."
I haven't yet found any definition of the little words "applicable" or "selected".
For more years that I care to remember, rollovers have gone to the next race day, or for a number of years to the next race day at the same course, but it has still been necessary to check several different unreliable sources to confirm whether there is a rollover. This new discretionary policy promises to make these sources even less trustworthy and cause even more confusion.
I have heard nothing recently about the prospects of Tote Ireland pools reappearing on the Betfair website any time soon.
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New man trying to make an impact! Dropped the daily double stake to one euro and ended up getting 3 euros into the pool last week.
That's 3 euros more than the worst outcome with the 5 euro stake!!
I don't think I've ever seen any mention of the daily double on the on-course screens, so no wonder nobody does it.
I think the new man has been there for nearly as long as his predecessor already ...
http://www.goracing.ie/HRI/Resource-Centre/News-Items/Tim-Higgins-Appointed-Chief-Executive-for-Tote-Ireland/
I don't think I've ever seen any mention of the daily double on the on-course screens, so no wonder nobody does it.
I think the new man has been there for nearly as long as his predecessor already ...
http://www.goracing.ie/HRI/Resource-Centre/News-Items/Tim-Higgins-Appointed-Chief-Executive-for-Tote-Ireland/
I suppose the logic is that, at the margin, a carryover at the weekend attracts more interest than it does midweek, which is probably true.
The flip side is that those of us who occasionally play the jackpot when there's a decent c/o now have one less reason to bother with the midweek cards.
The Tote in Ireland is a bit of a lost cause now whatever they do. But it wouldn't hurt to look at the deductions. Taking nigh on 30% out of the pools just isn't competitive any more.
The flip side is that those of us who occasionally play the jackpot when there's a decent c/o now have one less reason to bother with the midweek cards.
The Tote in Ireland is a bit of a lost cause now whatever they do. But it wouldn't hurt to look at the deductions. Taking nigh on 30% out of the pools just isn't competitive any more.
poohna, you had a reputation for being wheeled out in the past to defend the integrity of the tote and the usual "indefensible" issues that arise occasionally on pools and dividends. I see one of your more recent posts, albeit in August, was a justifiable, scathing attack on the Indecon report followed by the above dismissive remark. The powers that be believe that the only future for tote is co-mingling, decent margins on third party bets and gaining scale. Obviously Tim Higgins must also believe this but I have serious doubts.
When HRI had to resort to the flowery prose of: A successful racehorse owner with a life-long interest in thoroughbred racing and breeding, he is a regular race-goer at home and abroad. my reaction was.....who Gay?
I'm just sayin' like.
When HRI had to resort to the flowery prose of: A successful racehorse owner with a life-long interest in thoroughbred racing and breeding, he is a regular race-goer at home and abroad. my reaction was.....who Gay?
I'm just sayin' like.
The Super Jackpot at Tote Ireland
Tote Ireland has announced a change to the existing practise of rolling Jackpot carryovers to the next scheduled Irish meeting. Starting this weekend a Super Jackpot will be offered every weekend on one designated Irish racing meeting. Tote Ireland will support this with a guaranteed pool of at least €7,500 every weekend. Any rollovers from the super jackpot will carry forward to the following weekend’s super jackpot. Any rollovers at weekday meetings will be carried forward to the next scheduled Irish meeting as is the current practise.
Tim Higgins, CEO of Tote Ireland said ‘The purpose of this change is to increase jackpot pool sizes at weekends when the public’s interest in the pools are at their highest. With rollovers occurring on average one out of every two pools this will create pools which will give punters the opportunity to win a substantial dividend for a small outlay.’
The Pick Six will continue to be offered with a guaranteed minimum pool of €3,000 at selected meetings.
This weekends SUPER JACKPOT ROLLOVER is €7,992 at Punchestown this Sunday 9th of December!
SuperJackpot... (wow!)
Does anyone know if this Tim Higgins is related to Timmy Higgins from Killinaskully?
Tote Ireland has announced a change to the existing practise of rolling Jackpot carryovers to the next scheduled Irish meeting. Starting this weekend a Super Jackpot will be offered every weekend on one designated Irish racing meeting. Tote Ireland will support this with a guaranteed pool of at least €7,500 every weekend. Any rollovers from the super jackpot will carry forward to the following weekend’s super jackpot. Any rollovers at weekday meetings will be carried forward to the next scheduled Irish meeting as is the current practise.
Tim Higgins, CEO of Tote Ireland said ‘The purpose of this change is to increase jackpot pool sizes at weekends when the public’s interest in the pools are at their highest. With rollovers occurring on average one out of every two pools this will create pools which will give punters the opportunity to win a substantial dividend for a small outlay.’
The Pick Six will continue to be offered with a guaranteed minimum pool of €3,000 at selected meetings.
This weekends SUPER JACKPOT ROLLOVER is €7,992 at Punchestown this Sunday 9th of December!
SuperJackpot... (wow!)
Does anyone know if this Tim Higgins is related to Timmy Higgins from Killinaskully?
You might have expected Tarla's last fence fall at 4/11 and the fact that the second and third favourites were unplaced to have led to a place betting bonaza in yesterday's 2.15pm at Cork. Not a bit of it. The place dividend for the first two home (14/1 & 16/1) paid 7/4 and 6/5. You just cannot rely on this machine and allied to six 1/50 place returns over just two days you wonder why anyone bothers.
Incidentally, Cork's jackpot hit €528 and the daily double all of €13 while Navan produced a DD pool of €76 and a Pick6 of €267. Some strong medicine and radical overhauling needed.
The guaranteed pools are interesting in that because they are badly supported they regularly offer accumulated odds far in excess of returned SP's. Yesterday's Punchestown P6 paid €2,250 for €1 against SP odds of 790/1, not at all an infrequent occurence.
Incidentally, Cork's jackpot hit €528 and the daily double all of €13 while Navan produced a DD pool of €76 and a Pick6 of €267. Some strong medicine and radical overhauling needed.
The guaranteed pools are interesting in that because they are badly supported they regularly offer accumulated odds far in excess of returned SP's. Yesterday's Punchestown P6 paid €2,250 for €1 against SP odds of 790/1, not at all an infrequent occurence.
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