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to have a same sex marriage referendum ...money that could be spent on children , hospitals , welfare , etc etc...what is the labour party coming to ....its turning into a farce that's what ...to think people believed they were going to turn it around...
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thats the stickies for ye w.r....
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Frankfurt's way or Labours way
 Sign the College's pledge and break it instantly, Quinnie it goes on s a d l y |
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Had to laugh him talking about advancing womens rights at the UN - He didnt think much of Roisin Shortalls right when it suited him - and she's in HIS party !
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makes you think alright mayoman ....
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Yeah , bring back FF I say.
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vubiant , i don't think even ff would put gay marriage , ahead of child welfare , hospitals , etc etc....this begger's belief , and is a slight to the needy , those in difficulty with mortgages , whose houses are been reprocessed ..this clown thinks the country needs a referendum on this ..it shows how much his head is up his arse ..no pun intended ... shambolic to say the least ....
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How is he putting gay marriage 'ahead' of any of the things you mentioned?
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workrider, where do you stand on gay marriage?
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so this referendum wont cost a penny tgm...?....money that could be used for the the improvement of our hospitals , in case you've been asleep , thousends were on a protest in waterford this weekend , their hospital been downgraded , lots of peoples lives been affected ...but hey , lets have a referendum on gay marriage , its important ...tells me all about you ....lets get our people working first for a start ..
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ozy , you sound like a snooper , always wanting to know ...when it suits you that is ...wildman , were do you stand on racism etc , we all know YOU have very little morals ,when you are willing to allow your wife have sex with another guy for tips ..so lets just say , my respect for family life is a lot more than yours....
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i thought workwank and pp pa were an item
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off to bed with you ratty ..this is for grown ups....now run along son...
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dont worry about it m8...u are what u are,we are all adults here....although i do fear for pp pa
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No need for the personal attack workrider.
Gay marriage is an important issue and the sooner it is recognised in law the better. I am all in favour of a referundum on it. You should focus on other areas if you are looking for places the government can cut spending. 40% of goverment expenditure is on welfare- do you think that is sustainable? |
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...tgm.. how urgent is a referendum on gay marriage ffs ...way down the list of priorities in any reasonable persons mind...its the real world we have to look to first ....a total waste of public funds imo....the welfare issue is an example of why we need to get people back working ....its not a personal attack , why do you think it is ..are you gay ...do you think that because most irish people have more urgent priorities rather than this , on their minds , that you are under attack...?
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I took the 'tells me all about you' line as personal. Which it was. But let us move on.
It is not urgent, but it is certainly an issue worth looking at. It is not like we are going to vote on this next week at massive cost to the taxpayer. The earliest will be late next year, and I should imagine it will be on the same day as something like a vote on the abolition of the Seanad, thereby minimising the cost. Regardless, given the sums of money involved in government expenditure, the cost of a referendum on something like this is certainly worth bearing. Welfare is now 40% of expenditure, health is 27% and education is 17%. Think about that and consider how you would get better value on that outlay. |
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i'm well aware we need more value for the amount of money we spend on these ....but for a top goverment offical to think this s a priority issue says it all about the labour party ....a shambles imo...i can see the heterosexuals getting organised soon and putting pressure on goverments to put families first ....
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I am heterosexual and in favour of gay marriage. I did not realise until now I was the only one. Cheers workrider.
I agree that the Labour party are a shambles. It is a great pity that we did not grant FG an overall majority at the last election. |
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Gilmore was interviewed on Irish membership of the UN Human rights commission and said during the tenor, they would forward the causes of women, lgbts, etc.... He has harangued by RTE into admitting he would favor a referendum on gay marriage.
It was lip service....no more than that. he knows full well there is no f**king chance of a referendum on the issue anytime soon and kept saying it was being investigated by Ref commission.....ie 5+ years down the line OP is disingenuous imho. Not once did Gilmore proclaim this was a "Top Issue"........and I think Gilmore is a complete b*llocks btw |
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well joe he was on the news today ..saying he was for it , and would bring it up as a priority ....maybe you should listen to the news more often ..it was on the rte radio news at 11 am this morning ....sorry if i appear disingenuous ..sometimes the truth hurts ....he also said he was in favour of same sex marriage...
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the cost of a referendum, especially one thats quite black and white and where people are generally strongly for or against and where the goverment probably dont really care about the outcome, is quite cheap in the scheme of things. i think the best way out of our problem is to get as much money as we can together and have the lot on trap 3 in the first race at monmore
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and get members of the goverment to feed the other 5 dogs sausages before the off
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workrider, were you not telling us once that one of your grandchildren had recently come out of the closet? Apologies if I am confusing you with some other forumite.
I thought you of all people would be very much in favour of gay marriage given your circumstances. I would be happy to support you on this important issue. |
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as a wise man said on vb tonight, gay people have as much right to be miserable as everyone else
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I listened to the original interview in full at 8:30am this morning on RTE Radio and to try to say he sees a potential referendum as a "Priority" over other issues (Financial etc...) is not true. He simply said it would be a priority in the context of Irelands membership of the UN commission and any future referendum would be up to the referendum commission to decide on. He then gave his personal opinion that he would favour it (Gay Marriage not a referendum)
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Same-sex marriage would be one of the first issues examined by the constitutional convention, which needed to be “given the time to look at it”.
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ozy thats news to me , considering my eldest granddaughter is only 9 , its her birthday today....
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Same-sex marriage would be one of the first issues examined by the constitutional convention ...the word , first , is of importance dont you think joe....it normally signifies priority....
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Sure only 30% turned out for the childrens referendum........Let people marry who they want sure most of the gay lads I know are married with kids.
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its not about gays or anything else for that matter , let them marry who they bloody well like ..its nothing to do with me ...but with the country in such a sad state of affairs , a member of cabinet giving time and energy to this , thats what galls me...let the clown get the country back working and bringing money back into the economy ..then he can do what ever he likes ...
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The next budget will put a right nail in the coffin.....less money in the economy = less jobs.
Maybe Gabriel Byrne will come up with a way to generate money in the economy instead of scamming foreigners into coming to Ireland.......oh sorry that wealthy man doesn't even live here. |
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we seem to have lost the will , everyone now downbeat , waiting for the next disaster to appear ....maybe eamonn was only trying to shield us from reality by making us think same sex marriage was his priority ....
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