4.30 Southwell

Fair enough

hard work!!

jesus can it get any worse

in fairness snap it didnt give its running.that dog u backed in glin is running in miltown weekend.blades of steel is also in the stake so itl be hard for her.

to be honest lads this thread has descended into a farce....ive never heard of an op putting up 3 naps in 1 day.....;et alone 2 of them being first beaten tailed off last and the 3rd fell at the 4th fence......scp is usually a good poster but i think he has lost the plot here....

Tremendous stuff!

Snap, when magic MD rings you with a tip, does he reverse the charges?

magic might have to change his name....

Come on Snap.  Time to get back on the horse, so to speak.

You only have to look at today's Navan thread to see that tipping horses is a tough game.  There is no shame in tipping 16 straight losers.

Henry Hook @3.15 Ludlow, 4/1, MD NAP

3/1 - 9/2

Its some acheivement to tip 17 short price losers in a row scp

That statement is untrue moneypenny if you backed the horses priced 4/1 or bigger e/w

True snap, it's great tipping really. Tragic md, what an operator.

I wouldn't say great by any means but its certainly not tragic

dont mind em snap.anyone that didnt bk that ew shouldnt be gambling.

Anybody following somebody on an internet forum blindly shouldn't be gambling in my opinion

im not following him blindly..

It was directed at you kavvie or any single individual, i was saying it in general.

2nd time lucky!!


It was not directed at you kavvie or any single individual, i was saying it in general.



got there eventually

Snap, if in future your tip is an each way selection kindly indicate this in advance.

17th straight losers means that on the law of probabilities you are about to hit the Mother of all winning streaks,  You know it.  Magic MD knows it.

So Man Up and throw up  handful of NAPS for tomorrow please.

You could throw a few up yourself Ozy.

I couldn't win on the horses Pa even when I had a (relatively) decent supply of information.

Tryng to pick them purely on form and coming out ahead is way beyond my capabilities I'm afraid. I enjoy trying now and again but sharing my selections with others would help nobody I am afraid.

I can keep my head above water, usually, on football, tennis or rugby.

Kavvie is quite obviously following him blindly.

Thats fair enough Ozy its certainly not easy and you,re better off sticking to what sports you know a bit about.
SCP i might be wrong here but seem to be under the impression a fair proportion of the selections on here are running after after a lay off?

galway man you seem to assume a lot.are you vertically challenged by any chance?i backed the first 4 winners he gave(based on last yrs good tipping from md)i then missed a few.i backed a few losers.any that were ew prices i done ew.i then took a pull.i backed last 2 ew to neutral results.so over all id say im still slightly up but not a lot.why do you think im backing them blindly?is it beacause i support anyone who has the balls to come on here and tip a few?with the result when he hits a few losers he faces getting slagged?i know md gets good info and id say when he hits winner the floodgates could open.

Magic md was until recently a Ladbrokes employee,I am sure he means well but not sure ye should follow bookies tips.

are you sure of that

Very few regular punters will back horses at less than 5/1 each-way, except in exceptional circumstances

I don't mean it in a bad way but pretty sure.

if i know a horse is well fancied at say 7/2 or 3/1 id always back it ew..ton ew at 7/2 finishes 3rd you lose 12.50at 1/4 odds.makes sense to me.if its really fancied it usually places.

db 1974.. a few pro punters make a good living backing 7/4 5/2 shots each way....

in doubles maybe

is he out to beat Hugh Taylors 65 in a row?

Lackamon @1.30 Newcastle, 4/1, MD NAP

Fair play, Snap.  Most men quit just when they are about to succeed.

Surely with the each-way betting you have to take a long-term view as opposed to trying to save your stake on every race. IMO you shouldn't be backing horses that short each-way regularly. The only circumstances I could justify backing them each-way are

1. If there is an odds-on favourite in the race and there are 5 or 8-10 runners in the race
2. If you really fancy something and are having a good cut at something and don't want to wipe out your bank.

After that I believe that it is as hard (if not harder) to make money on the place side of things as the win side so you're better off backing win only

Suppose you back 5 horses and they are all 5/1

1 wins and 4 lose so you have made a profit on the win part of the bet irrespective of how the losers actually run (ie it doesn't matter if they are beaten a head or a distance)

If you are backing each-way you need at least 2 of the other 4 horses to place in order to not lose money on the place part of the bet, and that's at 1/4 the odds

I know the counter argument is that if there are no winners from the 5 then you have saved money but again, IMO in the long term most competent punters will eventually be profitable on the win-part of backing the 5/1 shots

I'm not against each-way betting by any stretch but in the long run I believe that punters are better off saving it for the longer-priced runners (16/1+). I have to admit it has taken me years to come to this conclusion and I often regret not backing each-way (eg Aiken at 10/1 last Saturday) but I just have to keep reminding myself that it'll all come good in the end (I hope)!

Each to their own though and if it works for you then don't let me stop you

jesus  snap your getting it hard.touched 1.2 ir.looked to be running all over them.then nothing.lucky to place.i done it ew at 4s..min loss

Look on the bright side, Snap.  If Magic MD can pull just one 20/1 winner out of the bag then you are back to break even.

Well done kavvie on only losing a small bit.

won a lot today..but i couldnt share it!!

ON THE LIKKER BIG GUY

I am afraid that is his normal self,there is some irony in him attacking Kavvie as he was championing his cause earlier.
Soldieroffortune and Irish Guy were the alleged old great contributors who were needed to restore this forum to its former glory,an excellent start.

Rhagori @5.35 Kempton, 3/1, MD NAP

hard luck mate it ran really well , not the best of runs up the inner ....

2nd, great stuff. Backed it each way so only lost a small bit. My cyber buddy tobywong told me that losing a small bit is the same as winning!

Peaks of fire @1.40 Stratford, 3/1, MD NAP

Ooooooh. Taking on the great keen leader

Kavvie, myself and tobywrong have formed an e/w syndicate and we are almost cleaning up here.

20 that have not won in a row now Snap. A winner is well overdue

in fairness, whats the point. nobody (except kavvie) is backing them or will ever back them from now on, its a grade A second hand  guessers thread. several naps the one day was the total p iss take.


you'd be far better off sticking with a lucky (or any) number in  virtual races over a period of time.

dont ever assume what i do!!..i always try and support anybody putting tips up because they usually get slated by nearly every one..

So you punt all the tips to show the love? Admirable sentiment.

i punt the ones i think will win!!i dont slag or ridicule anyone if they give a few losers..

i punt the ones i think will win!!i dont slag or ridicule anyone if they give a few losers..

all 2 of them!!

Viva diva @5.25 Wolverhampton, 7/1. MD NAP of the year. Good luck all

another drifter and never dangerous......

How was it a drifter? Tipped it at 7/1, returned @ 13/2. Just bumped into a well handicapped horse, would have been a decisive winner otherwise

ul scp- at least you got the each way money again

most are getting placed..lll keep the faith and wen one goes in id say the tide will turn!

sure ye knew the fahey horse was well handicapped b4 the race scp....wasnt the best idea2 put up mds nap of the year considering u knew how well handicapped this horse was.....to be honest i lost faith wif ye after napping 3 in the 1 day.....good luck with your next nap.......

the next 1 will be nap of the decade and the 1 after that will be nap of the century

richters, you avoided my question, all I asked you was how did you think it was a drifter? Nothing about its handicap mark or anything like that

9/2 to 13/2 b4 the off scp......i didnt see any 7s available mate.......so someone was obviously laying this horse b4 the off

7s was available with stan james when I posted. Had previously been bigger. If it returned 8/1 I would have considered it a slight drift but when it returns 13/2, I am baffled at how that constitutes a drift

i would pay more attention to the market in the 10 mins prior to a race in fairnesss scp.....but thats just mmy opinion.....your luck will change.....

How much do u invest on these nags Snap?

Any of them that are an each way price (4/1 or bigger) I have €5 each way on them. Sometimes €7.50 each way if I am extra sweet on them

7.50 euro each way if extra sweet........ this is all surely a p iss take.

there is lads i know throwing more on a spin of roulette every few mins, maybe they have a better chance.

Sorry irish guy, but I don't claim to be a big punter like some people do on here.

Surely if you thought these "tips" were any good you would be having considerably more than the price of a pint on.The fact that you are not says more about the quality of the "tips".

Pa, believe me I would be having a lot more on them if I could afford to but am currently unemployed

Sorry to hear that SCP,never thought i,d see these days again in Ireland in my lifetime but unfortunely here we are,Good luck with getting some work.
With viva diva yesterday he touched 2.9 for in the place market,easy in hindsight but maybe the right way to have played a bet of the year if the win was fancied?

Thanks pa, hopefully something will come up soon.

Yes in hindsight that would have been the right play at 2.9 tbh

with respect, Snap, the right play is to keep the fiver in your pocket if you are skint.

Rather than get tips from Magic md ask him for a job.

is he laddies boss?

Get the papers @3.00 Hexham, 7/2, MD NAP

jesus ur gettinmg it tough snap/btn 77l

What numbers are you going for in the Euromillions tonight, Snap?  Just so as we know the ones to avoid

After that horse got beaten I did a treble, waiting on little village @7.00 Dundalk to get the final leg up, but knowing my luck....

Time go go to the pub!

Samaritans 1850 60 90 90

Even when you aftertimed two winners you still managed to lose.
According to yourself you are skint and unemployed so now after gambling all afternoon you are off drinking,fair play to you.
Never Give Up might get you a job at the pony races.

Never Give Up cant go to the pony races.......unless he is dressed up as a woman......the whole place is looking for him......isnt that correct wildy......

looks like boobys on the anti depressions , either that or the drink is starting to take effect....

No seems alright there,i think he is the one who enforces the 8/1 limit.

Put on your rovers top and get into bed ya fool ya.....

Terrible that this thread started as a result of snap getting a hurling match right on the one occasion keen leader seems to have been wrong. It has all ended in tears now.

Maybe it was football but a Laois game?

The success seemed to light a MD fire in his belly.

He didn't get it right Bassanio, it was a draw.Just read back through that thread(something for the weekend), very inconsistent it looks now i,m afraid SCP.

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:24PM, wildmanfromborneo wrote:

Even when you aftertimed two winners you still managed to lose.According to yourself you are skint and unemployed so now after gambling all afternoon you are off drinking,fair play to you.Never Give Up might get you a job at the pony races.

poor dark rosie,still infatuated with me

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:56PM, wildmanfromborneo wrote:

No seems alright there,i think he is the one who enforces the 8/1 limit.

no 8/1 limit were i go dark rosie

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:55PM, workrider wrote:

looks like boobys on the anti depressions , either that or the drink is starting to take effect....

must be tablets as he couldnt afford to pay 4 drink

my mistake it was 22 losers in a row for magic scp

Don't worry there'll be another pro punter tipping thread started up soon.....

A Truly remarkable thread, should be posted in every school class in Ireland on the dangers of gambling.....

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