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BBC ''Disbelief in Co Down as Bangor-born golf commentator David Feherty says "I'm American, I've lived here 20yrs." He wants USA to win Ryder Cup ''
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wait till norn gets his hands on him.....
 ..actually i think hes brilliant...his one liners are magic..asked a while ago how he read a rather difficult putt ..he answered ..i'll wait till it comes out in hardback..... |
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McIlroy & McDowell vs Furyk & Sneds
Phil & Keegan vs. Donald & Garcia Lee & Francesco vs Dufner & Zach Stricker & Woods vs Poulter & Rose McIlroy and McDowell look a decent bet at evens, if they get the putters goin id expect them to win easily |
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Europe starting with their best 8,not t so sure Bradley and Dufner/Zach would be in before Johnson and possibly Bubba there.
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Would not consider Molinari a top eight player disappointed that Colsaerts is not playing.
Poulter had to get a wild card again ranked in the mid twenties has been playing above himself in that last few Ryder Cups,can he keep going to the well,while he is unbeaten in singles I feel the best bet this Ryder Cup is Poulter to lose his singles. It is worthy of comment that Snap Crackle only seems to dispute one of my seven points yet tries to persist in this Europe are Certs nonsense. |
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Deja vu with Arlua(?) Kilcruise.
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Poulter to lose his singles yet you have no idea who he will be playing, but it is based on the fact that he is due a bad tournament. For a person who usually selects his bets with a degree of thought, that is simple madness.
I am not sure if it was you that did this before or slated someone who did, but recommending a bet without the odds being available is crazy. Recommending a bet without the odds or opponent being available is worse than that, even if the bet in question proves to be correct. Donald and Garcia to beat Phil and Bradley is my only bet in the first set of matches. |
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Donald looks about the only European that is guaranteed to play all 5 matches.
Westwood could be dropped for a match if he performs like he has recently on the US tour. I would not be keen on Rory in the first match tomorrow and I would be very unsure that his heart is in this team format, He was very average and somewhat disinterested in 2010 and nothing since has suggested that he will value a team event such as this, anything like what achieving his personal goals mean to him. When form and ryder cup record is combined with the highest probability of playing all the matches and getting the opportunity to win points, it makes Donald very hard to look past in the points betting for Europe. |
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Willing to leave the Rory/GMac game alone for betting purposes. Lot of pressure on both of them going out first.
Donald/Garcia have a great record and I'll be backing them to keep it going. Westwood/Molinari - Two poor putters together? On a course set up for a putting contest that seems strange. Bottom match should be tight. |
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It's based on my belief that any of the American team can beat him and by nominating the bet now you accept an element of luck of the draw,also the price will be better as he is still be talked up as the best match player in the world.
There is a risk in all betting and betting before a draw is made is not as ridiculous as you make out. Have to agree with your last statement and think it will be Europes sole point. |
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"Garcia can't putt
Kaymer completely out of form Molinari won't score a point Hanson not good enough Westwood out of form Poulter due a bad Ryder Cup Lawrie lacks experience of American golf courses and is a good player in tough European weather conditions" wildman you are a bluffer. And obviously have no idea what you are talking about. your point about poulter has so many flaws its not even worth debating molinari will be on the score sheet, thats for certain how in your opinion is hanson "not good enough"??? westwood always comes alive at this event and is as solid a matchplayer as there is and im sure lawrie not having played that much golf in america wont count for much imo As I have stated already I have clearly outlined why I think Europe are certs and in my book bet of the century at 7/4 |
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Garcia can't putt - Has improved in this regard but cannot argue with the point.
Kaymer completely out of form - Agreed and was poor last time when in form. Should not play more than 2 matches. Molinari won't score a point - Probably has the most favourable match up he could have but very poor putter and will struggle with length. Could be quashed in the singles like last time. Hanson not good enough - Dispute this regarding his talent. Has the game to be very competitive but is not mental strong enough so overall I agree. Westwood out of form - Usually raises his game but is playing very badly and is terrible in the singles Poulter due a bad Ryder Cup - It's a throwaway remark that I don't understand and therefore disagree with. Lawrie lacks experience of American golf courses and is a good player in tough European weather conditions - Very solid putter and had a great Ryder Cup in the States in 1999. Could do a great job but under appreciated and will be under used. |
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Sorry meant to bold all of my responses there.
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Snap Crackle you pick your seven worst Americans and I will have a match bet with you of a monkey on points scored.
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If you nominate a price that you are happy to take that covers all possible opponents then it is fair enough.
He could end up against an opponent that has suffered a dire tournament and it could be a gimme. Molinari for example, as you say, could be well beaten in the pairings and could be a broken man in the singles on a course that is already totally unsuitable - On that basis anyone of the US would wish to play him. The frame of mind of the player will be vitally important on Sunday. |
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Sned & Furyk will make mince meat of McIlroy & GMac. Fancy Luke & Garcia big time tho!
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Furyk or Bradley would be the only two that would worry me.
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wildman pick your best 7 numbers, because I reckon you have a better chance of picking the 7 correct euromillions numbers tomorrow than you have about calling the ryder cup right
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Why would Dufner who is one of the best iron players in the game but the weakest putter on the US team not be kept for the fourballs, where he can be a rock and allow his playing partner (presumably a quality putter) to go at the flag and take risks on the greens. It seems a strange pick by Love. They would be a solid pair in the fourballs. However they are up against 2 weak putters so this one is all to play for.
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Snap Crackle I will take that as a no hardly surprising as you need the help of magic md normally,maybe he will put up the monkey for you.
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why would I bet a monkey with you at evens on a match bet on Europe, when I think they are going to win anyway and could get almost double those odds for my money
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He has suggested thought that you select the 7 weakest members of the American team and nominate the 7 strongest from Europe.
With the draw no bet, that brings the 1/1 very close to good value if not better value than the Europe outright bet. |
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How do the points work though wildman?
Do you mean total points each player wins or is a point per match? If Luke Donald finishes with 3.5 and Garcia finishes with 3 where they won 3 pairs matches, Donald halved his singles and Garcia lost his - Is that 6.5 points or is it 3.5 points because they shared the win 3 times? If it is total points for each player then Snap has a huge advantage by picking the players most likely to play 4-5 matches and selecting your guys that will play 3 at most. He should be odds on for this based on these rules. If it is the basis of the 3.5 total above, then it is important to pick players who will not be paired together. Not sure why I wasted time thinking about this as I strongly suspect that a match bet is not forthcoming. |
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10k available at 1.77 on daq for USA against 1.74 on here.
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I've had a good bet on Europe @ 2.84 after the first pairings where announced last night.
I think Europe win the first game with Rory and Gmac, really fancy Sergio and Luke in the 2nd game (imagine having to play foursomes with Phil), the 3rd game is close but Lee and Francesco tee to green are absolutely brilliant so hope they are on a good day with the putter and the last game should be a cracker and both Poulter and Rose have very good Ryder Cup records and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see them turn over Stricker and Woods. I think Europe probably have the 2 best match players in the World in Poulter and Donald, they have the best player in the world in McIlroy, Rose played well last week and has a good Ryder Cup record, Sergio has a good racord too, Westwood has 19pts from a possible 33, Lawrie contrary to peoples beliefs won 2 1/2pts at Brookline in America, McDowell has won 5pts from 8, Kaymer is out of form but made a World Matchplay final (lost to Donald) and has won 2 1/2pts out of 4. Molinari and Hanson have losing records but Hanson has come on finishing high up in numerous majors and Molinari is usually solid tee to green and just needs ther putter to get hot. Colsaerts is the only rookie but if used right could be a big weapon in the fourballs where his big hitting and birdie making could prove very effective. As for the comments Poulter is due a bad Ryder Cup, you could well be right and he may have a bad Ryder Cup but there is no logic behind that thought (Liverpool are due a league title, ain't going to happen though). I would argue with Poulters recent record he is the value to be top European points scorer and overall top points scorer, he should be nearer to the top of the betting. Another who i think is value for the same 2 bets is Luke Donald, he is a great match player, is basically playing at home and i can see him racking up the points for Europe. My Bets Europe 5pts @ 2.84 Luke Donald top points scorer 0.75pts @ 14/1 Luke Donald top European points scorer 0.75pts @ 13/2 Ian Poulter top points scorer 0.75pts @ 18/1 Ian Poulter top European points scorer 0.75pts @ 8/1 I may add a few more bets before the start of play this afternoon |
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I suppose it was pushing it looking for evens but am prepared to modify the bet.I will retain my seven Europeans you can pick your seven weakest Americans the one with the least points wins,the bet will be 200 euro to a greyhound charity of your choice if I lose and 100 euro to the injured jockey fund from you if I win.
This post is for Snap Crackle |
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wildmanfromborneo Joined: 30 Nov 10
Replies: 7696 27 Sep 12 22:06 Garcia can't putt Kaymer completely out of form Molinari won't score a point Hanson not good enough Westwood out of form Poulter due a bad Ryder Cup Lawrie lacks experience of American golf courses and is a good player in tough European weather conditions Care to reconsider. Totally agree, USA a shoe in. |
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Ian Poulter is the contentious one on my list but he can't keep raising his game,he is also one of the few top class golfers that is capable of a socket,Peter Hanson another,he is not in the same league as Bubba Watson and Dustin Johnson on this course and his partner Justin Rose isint a winner despite his previous Ryder Cup record.Stricker and Woods look Certs to beat them this morning as Woods wayward driving won't matter,the one thing I don't want to see is Poulter playing alongside Luke Donald later on.
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Except the Poulter bit!
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This is foursomes this afternoon, 4 players - 2 balls. How will Tiger Woods wayward driving not matter? I know the rough won't be set up too bad but did you see his driving last weekend? He was all over the shop and if he drives the ball as he did last weekend he will be leaving Stricker up sheet creek.
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Wide open fairways designed to suit wayward and long driving.
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Big mistake on Davis Loves part not playing Bubba Watson and Dustin Johnson both are young and well capable of playing plenty of matches plus their style of play tailor made for this course,Phil Mickelson and Keegan Bradley look a weak combination to me.
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Agree re Mickelson and Bradley.
Phil is not the same player in Ryder Cups and a 2 wins from 11 matches in foursomes says it all. |
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Yeah have to agree,I,d still wouldn,t have minded Phil with Dustin Johnson,Dufners attitude would compliment Bubba. Surprised Love hasn,t played them either.
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I'm very confident about the Phil and Bradley pairing. I think Bradley is gonna absolutely love this gig, and his enthusiasm and general friendship with Phil will get Phils juices flowing. Would worry slightly about Dufner, and his form, but the fact they are playing two notoriously dodgy putters should swing it. How many holes are mol and ww gonna throw away due to poor putting? Prob a couple, and that will be ill afforded. First match should be a cracker. Had a small lay of the macs. Big bet on Tiger and Stricker, superb price. Usual English bullshit, blindly following their 'heroes'! 2.1 is way off.
Enjoy. |
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Hills went 5-2 Europe for a half hour there, only for a tenner mind.
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PP Offer, not bad, even if prices are not the best:
RYDER CUP MATCHES Day 1 Foursomes 1:20pm Sky Sports 1 Europe Tie USA McIlroy/McDowell v Snedeker/Furyk 5/6 11/2 6/4 Donald/Garcia v Bradley/Mickelson 5/6 11/2 6/4 Westwood/Molinari v Dufner/Johnson 6/5 11/2 11/10 Poulter/Rose v Woods/Stricker 13/10 11/2 Evens Don't forget we're refunding losing match bets if your selection leads after 12 holes and fails to win! Applies to bets on foursomes, fourballs and single matches before they tee off. Max refund €100. |
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Also worth noting that while everyone is talking about the course being set up for the Americans and its 7,658 yards in length, the 99 and 06 PGA were played there and the course was 7,401 and 7,561 in length.
Garcia was 2nd in 99 and 3rd in 2006 Donald was 2nd in 2006. Nothing wrong with their course form. |
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McIlroy/McDowell backed at evens on here last night, if they get the putters goin early i expect a 5+4
Dufner/Johnson 5/4 - backed too, Westwood has been all over the shop lately, and has nt had much tiime to turn things around after a shambolic effort last week |
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Here we go,
Like an irish match with de oles. Good Luck with your bets |