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By:
workrider
When: 14 Oct 12 13:38
the buddist religion summed up in 4 words.........
no me....no problem.....
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 12 21:51
€2800?,u don't see many naming their profit/loss on internet forums??Best of luck getting that back on laying him for the guineas.I don't think ur stating anything that is not already priced in or is obvious to most that he has been trained hard and early and therefore it is likely that we have already seen the best of him.
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Anaglogs Daughter
When: 14 Oct 12 22:10
Jim Bolger to train Dawn Approach for 2013 Qipco 2,000 Guineas

Sheikh Mohammed looked a little surprised by the question, but his answer put to bed an item of important unfinished business long before the approach of winter.

By HOTSPUR (A J McGrath)
14 Oct 2012 TELEGRAPH.CO.UK

Yes, Dawn Approach is to remain in the stable of Jim Bolger to be trained for next year’s Qipco 2,000 Guineas. There will be no transfer with this colt.

It is not unknown for Godolphin to employ outside trainers, but it is more common practice for new purchases to be moved to the stable of either Mahmood Al Zarooni or Saeed bin Suroor, and then end up in Dubai for several months before being shipped back to Europe.

Sheikh Mohammed, Dubai’s ruler, is a hands-on owner who loves to have his best horses close by. He would prefer be able to see them every day than be fielding phone calls from a manager or trainer 3,000 miles away.

But Dawn Approach is different. Unbeaten now in six starts after his emphatic Dewhurst Stakes victory on Saturday, the colt has become such a valuable potential stallion that it makes sound commercial sense to leave him in an environment in which he has developed and thrived.

Bolger trained New Approach to win the Derby and Champion Stakes for Princess Haya of Jordan after Sheikh Mohammed had purchased the colt near the end of his two-year-old campaign. New Approach, a son of super stallion Galileo, is now poised to become champion first-season sire, with Dawn Approach being his chief contributor.

But Bolger’s record in turning out five recent winners of the Dewhurst – Teofilo, New Approach, Intense Focus and Parish Hall are the others – is proof enough that he should be entrusted with a young horse, who might just be capable of landing the first Classic of next season, for which he is 5-1 favourite. He lacks the gear-change of his sire, but there is no doubting his class, courage or ability.

The trainer has said he doubts whether Dawn Approach will stay a mile and a half at three, but in the back of his mind, he must harbour hopes that Trading Leather, the gritty winner of the Autumn Stakes on Saturday, can be a worthy Epsom contender. The colt is a top-priced 16-1 for the Derby.

The crowd at Newmarket, 9,514, was up 4.5 per cent on last year. Considering that the Champion Stakes has been transferred to Ascot, it is a respectable figure for a quality card
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Oct 12 22:12
That is your eight attempt at provoking a spat,I will ignore the snide remarks but think your reply is classic after timing
My post was made before the Dewhurst,your reply is after.The horse is ante post favourite for both the Guineas and the Derby but others observed worrying things about his Dewhurst win,notably a lot of journalists so your assertion that everyone knew this is plain wrong and as I said classic after timing.
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 12 22:16
Ha,the journalists must have seen ur thread sure,no on else could envisage a 2 yo that romps up on the opening day of the flat season being over-trained.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Oct 12 22:22
No they saw the way he ran at Newmarket,funnily none of them like yourself ever mentioned that he might not train on before the Dewhurst.
I had a good look at him on the Curragh and felt he was trained for a sale and he won't train on and just posted my opinion,it irks you but you should try posting some opinions of your own.
By:
dj876
When: 14 Oct 12 22:27
Often post my own opinions pre race,but don't blow my own trumpet=ref.Camelot-st.leger thread posted a month b4 race.I also don't have the arrogance to believe that because a journalist shares the same opinion as me that they must be plagiarising  my thoughts.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 14 Oct 12 22:34
As the journalist stated it himself it is hardly just a belief.
I was wrong on this thread as I advised a lay of Dawn Approach in the Dewhurst,I acknowledged that and thanked Lapsy Pa for his excellent advice.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 14 Oct 12 22:37
I never gave an opinion on what the original thread was about as the horse still had to run in the Dewhurst, lets be honest it was a horrible Dewhurst so we've learned very little, Dawn is a decent 2yr old deceptive, but I wouldn't  go lumping on for the guineas.
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 14 Oct 12 22:40
Worst bunch of 2 year olds ive seen for quite some time
By:
Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods
When: 05 May 13 23:27
Laugh
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 05 May 13 23:30
Great going Wildman, you're some judge ExcitedLaugh
By:
never give up
When: 05 May 13 23:38
he was caught telling porkies on the last straw threadLaugh
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 05 May 13 23:48
As bad as this is, it's not as bad as dickies thread about Leitrim, but no getting away Wildman is clueless !
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 30 Jul 13 21:45
Out at Goodwood tomorrow so to bet or lay what's everyone think..........
By:
mrtopnotch
When: 31 Jul 13 11:37
Bet ...wins easy imo
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 31 Jul 13 14:24
Bet for me also, banker of the week........
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 31 Jul 13 22:14
First time ive backed it and lets me down for a treble!!
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 19 Oct 13 17:46
Great call wildman Wink
By:
roadrunner46
When: 27 Oct 13 10:28
only an idiot of the highest order would come up with thread like this, top 2yo of 2012LaughLaughLaugh
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