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irishbookmaker
21 Sep 12 13:55
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Do people on here think there is a need or market for a new betbroker business ,
Most of the giving out done on here is about not being able to get on.
If you could get on for decent amounts would you pay 5% comission like betfair itself.
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Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 2:02 PM BST
how in gods name do u think people could pay 5% comission......the game isnt that easy......or is it.....
Report kavvie September 21, 2012 2:24 PM BST
i was with them before and i was lucky to get my money back.they were a dead loss.id say all the majors restricted them after a short time.i rem trying to get them to get me a monkey ew at 5s on something that was freely available at 5s with all the big firms.they failed.so i got out after that.its a great concept but hard to make a success out of it
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 2:45 PM BST
thats the thing.....its a no goer......the only prixx that will use it ......are people with bets that nobody wants to lay.....
Report wildmanfromborneo September 21, 2012 3:09 PM BST
They end up doing what all agents do,keep the mugs bets lay off the shrewdies bets whilst availing of the information so garnered.
Report irishbookmaker September 21, 2012 3:28 PM BST
Thanks for your answers but if it was done properly and the customer was happy with the service would it be a runner?
Are there people out there who constantly get knocked backed and would use a firm to do their betting for 5%.?
Report slickster September 21, 2012 3:36 PM BST
maybe 2 or 3%, not 5.
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 3:37 PM BST
irishbookie.....yer a touch naive i think.....its a non runner.....end of story....if anyone was willing to pay 5%......who would want to lay the bets.......
Report irishbookmaker September 21, 2012 3:41 PM BST
Let me worry about that .
Percentage wise then about three max .
Sure if you see one starting soon then give it a go.
Max winnings per bet will be about €5000.
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 4:26 PM BST
3% would be ok,let me know more also can anyone here vouch for you
Report kavvie September 21, 2012 4:35 PM BST
as bobby says its a non runnner.great in theory but not in practice.the people you would need to get on board wont because most of them have tried the orig betbrokers and it was no good.in fact i can guarantee you wouldnt be able to get on the bets.if they could be got on the guy or agent would do it himself..
Report irishbookmaker September 21, 2012 4:46 PM BST
Have been in the business for about 10 years.
Will be something like this.
All clients monies will be in a one escrow account, I will be using my own funds for all transactions and then withdrawing funds from this account to cover the same bets.
Anyway lots of details to sort out.
Report irishbookmaker September 21, 2012 4:50 PM BST
Kavvie, In this day and age with the advances in technology there is always a way to get things done. This being no exception.
Report kavvie September 21, 2012 4:50 PM BST
would you be laying the bets yourself wholly or in part?are you confident you can get money on?ie if pp are going best price on something and if someone wants a grand ew for instance at 8s?
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 4:54 PM BST
would ya ever get out of it irishbookie ya tool ya.....if ya were as u say u are in the business 10 years......ya would know its an impossibility......its the advances in technology that make getting bets on impossible......not possible.....
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 6:11 PM BST
if people on here can vouch for u i'd give u some business,i bet in sterling so wouldnt want any conversion or bank charges
Report lustrumm September 21, 2012 6:21 PM BST
I don't like running people down but irishbookie u deserve it for this thread here.

In the height of the celtic tiger in dublin it was a full time job getting ones own bets on with the choice of thousands of shops. How do you propose to do it in a recession where even a bet of €50 requires authorisation centrally.

I could not tell you one person that showed a net profit from dealing with them in the UK when they were trendy 8-10 years ago and the advent of them finished 1 former track layer/punter who got in over his head.

Waste of time
Report wildmanfromborneo September 21, 2012 6:34 PM BST
This thread is a bit like the three card trick man when business starts to slacken off a carbon copy of the man holding the deck appears and puts a dog ear on the Queen while the main man conveniently turns away,he turns back and skilfully removes the dog ear snaring some unsuspecting victim.
In this case thebeg is the dog ear merchant to Irishbookmakers three card trick dealer.
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 6:42 PM BST
wildman.i am not part of no con,the way i get my bets on is through  2 comm agents who most of the time dont fill my order so i could do with another.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 21, 2012 6:54 PM BST
Fair enough but tread carefully,you don't know this character yet you are going to transfer funds to him,this nearly always ends in tears.
You are already using two agents this is also fraught with danger whilst things may be going alright now I can guarantee at some point soon you will encounter problems.
The two big Irish traders are skint and have done huge depredation and it's second time round for one of them.
Report Bassanio September 21, 2012 6:58 PM BST
Does Slaney Racing lay a bet? Anyone vouch for them?

What prices would someone get on at? I assume there is no chance of getting best price for much money?
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 7:03 PM BST
ok thanks for the advice,
to start with i would only tranfer funds to him on a bet by bet basis but dont know if i can trust him yet.
the 2 agents i do business with in the uk ,1 is a personal friend the other has been going for the last 30 years ,yes before bf and i wont be giving out any numbers
Report Bassanio September 21, 2012 7:11 PM BST
I am assuming that the opening poster the is proprietor of SlaneyRacing or connected with the firm. If people have had positive experiences dealing with them, then that is a starting point in relation to this.
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 7:29 PM BST
where did slaney racing come out of?.....they were never mentioned as far as i can see......
the beg is yet another walter mitty ......by the looks of things......
wildman comes up with a good one.....who aree the two big traders......and which one is second time round......
Report Bassanio September 21, 2012 7:31 PM BST
That is my understanding who irishbookmaker is.

It was easily enough deciphered from previous posts on here.
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 7:35 PM BST
ok had enough of this,i,m out,thanks for the insults guys
Report wildmanfromborneo September 21, 2012 7:43 PM BST
Three good posters hail from the same county as the two failed traders,BJG,Allduckornodinner and the now missing Neill d,the one gone for the second time would have an aversion to religious titles,he was also far and away the biggest.
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 7:52 PM BST
wildman.....the cryptic stuff has me bamboozled......i think i know who one is.....the other one is a mystery.....
the beg......unless u are michael tabor.....then there is no way u are betting with 2 commision agents....if you are mr tabor then i apologise.....
bassanio.....i was not aware this was slaney racing.....never even heard of them.....
Report wildmanfromborneo September 21, 2012 8:00 PM BST
What was the French sounding title bestowed on the Father Horan of Knock fame.
What broken winded horse won the Cheltenham bumper at huge odds.

Slaney racing are a small bookmaking outfit based as the name suggests in Wexford.
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 8:00 PM BST
bobby u have already implied that agents cant get on what u want, and now coz i use 2 i must be a monster bettor,catch yerself on
Report bobbybocala September 21, 2012 8:06 PM BST
wildman.....lost altogether now......monsignor is the answer i assume.....that doesnt help me with the identity....
the beg.......if u werent a big better u wouldnt need any commission agent.....let alone 2 of them.....catch yourself on man.....
Report thebeg September 21, 2012 8:13 PM BST
and where do u propose to geton at the best price available,no need to argue for the sake of argueing, i cant expect u to understand what i do,i am only saying how i geton
Report by purpose September 21, 2012 8:25 PM BST
This thread is like a Hitchcock thriller.I just hope i live that long for the final scene.
Report kavvie September 21, 2012 8:30 PM BST
im off to0 work.look forward to looking at his again sat round 2pm!!
Report kavvie September 21, 2012 8:31 PM BST
this!!
Report dj876 September 23, 2012 2:23 AM BST
Domination
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