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23 Aug 12
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Can someone tell me what this is about in plain English. Can accounts be limited like normal bookmakers and anyone make anything out of it more importantly?
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i've had an account with sporting a number of years ruby. can be very dangerous, but also very profitable and enjoyable.
but you MUST understand betting thoroughly or you could be in trouble. here's a simple example. i think they are quoting man city premier points at 82.5 - 84. if you fancy them to get more than 84, you buy. ie back them to do well. say you buy for a grand a point and they get 90. you win 6k. 90 minus the 84 quote. however, if they have a mare of a season and only amass 72 points, you lose 12k. 84 minus the 72 they got. remember this.... the more you are right, the more you win. the more you are wrong, the more you lose! |
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Cheers Slick. Is it basically an exchange as in you need to have the money in your account before you can place the bet?. I assume it works on stockmarket sort of idea?.
How would golf work for instance...does they offer outright markets or how does it work. Thanks |
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Yes, they do limit as far as i know but they're the only bookie bar the Asian ones whose never limited and the Asians don't limit. Made a few bob out of it but could be a death trap if you don't think bets through fully and a lot of the time imo there is poor value on bets, landed a few nice performance bets in football. I would join though Ruby as they're joining up offer is quite good. Btw it was great their free nights out in Dublin when they were trying to get going, free bar, betting in the upstairs of Donaghy and Nesbitts watching Champion's league games on the big screen, great auld days
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Ruby they will give you a certain amount of credit depending i imagine what your balance is, risk is and the history of your account. I mean if a bet goes wrong it could go massively wrong but realistically it won't go that wrong so they'll give you some credit so you don't have to have worst case los in your account. Yes it was very much aimed at the financial boys when they were trying to promote it in Ireland. I would still say though the value is not that great, but some of their bets are good Prem points and as i said the performance bets are good fun but you need to know your stuff, would suggest to open an account and start off very small and you won't go wrong.
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they offer a multitude of bets on everything ruby, but yes you can back "outright".
another example. they may go 100 for a win, 75 2nd, all the way down to 5 for 10th. each golfer has a quote. mcilroy could be 18-21, woods 17-20 etc... in a given tournament. again, do you buy or sell? yes, you need money in your account to do bets unless they give you credit. you must prove you can pay up though! not worth going down the credit route for obvious reasons  |
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I'm sorry this makes me laugh, Slickster
 I might be leaving myself open here but i'll aski anyway Did you join when they were promoting in Ireland Slick? Did you get the invites to the free bar upstairs in Donaghy and Nesbitts watching Champions league? |
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Thanks Rocket and Slick.
Yeah i just heard about it. Hmm i keep it in mind lads. Anyone other good websites out there bar the traditional ones. Not too interested in Horse Racing markets but more so markets like NFL and Golf. |
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It's not too bad for NFL ruby but i would suggest another bookie called pinnacle for the american sports, to be fair good book all around.
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Has anyone joined this crowd recently? I tried last year but got bored pretty quick.
It seems easier to apply for a US visa all the stuff they asked and wanted??? Is the joining process any easier?? Might try them again before the proper NFL kicks off!!! |
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was easy enough when i joined dkelly. once you send them a cheque you should be up and running!
no limits from what i can see. i'm not small time, but in spread terms i wouldn't be gigantic. i don't fancy going in at 10k a point and it going belly up....if they control their spreads correctly, they can't lose. ie an equal amount of buyers and sellers and their profit margin - spread - ensures profit. don't see what's funny rocket. i had an account many years before they tried to spread their wings in ireland. it's just not popular here for some reason. |
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Because it's niche product, to be fair it's betting the came about for the city boys in London, grew out of that, we don't have anything like that bar the ISFC which is not in the same league. I have to say i think a lot of the times the markets are poor value, although there was more of it about when they first started covering Irish sports imo.
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How can the markets be poor value,you either buy or sell,fairly obvious you have no account with them.
Losses can be huge if you don't put in limits,the Monaco Grand Prix some years back caused havoc with one of their big players being wiped out. |
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i disagree. there's value there if you know what you are doing, and looking for.
did you bring that blonde blow up with you on that free night out? how many freebies did they allow you? |
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Poor value on a spread bet........explain please.
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that is correct wildman. think the guy lost 25k odd. he was trying to steal 50 notes or something of that ilk.
can be a very dangerous game. not suitable to the "virtual racing" loony.... |
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Thanks for that slickster. Ill still set aside a bit of time and a few beers
when i try again :-) |
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I had a look at Pinacle Rocket and looks the job actually what I am looking for. Is it hard to set up as in do you need passports faxed etc etc. Is it a American based website?
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Nah she was not around back then Slick, not around now either
i brought someone with me though i think it was one of the lads from the office and they tried to get him to sign up while there iirc, i think it was as many as you'd like but maybe on from 30 mins before and then finished 30 mins after the game, free finger food as well, lot of lads from Davy and Goodbody there. |
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Never Give Up stick to the stalking you are out of your depth here as is your close bosom friend.
Slickster I think he had bought the top six drivers and collected small profit on every Grand Prix for two years until a rain sodden Monaco Grand Prix wiped him out. |
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They are registered in the caribbean.
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please don't take this the wrong way rocket, but i am somewhat puzzled as to how you found your way into that free night.
spread betting is a VERY specialised form of betting. i can't see it suiting you..... |
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Stalking myself hardly,you have descended on my posts again with the usual regurgitation of a post and an inane short riposte.
I actually thought you had left or were on holidays,good to have you back though,presumably you kept in contact with Rocketfingers via personal messages or is it only Suzielays that has that honour. |
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LOL just noticed gant posted something, bad enough wildbore is in here but gant c'mon man
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Pinnacle require copies of front & back of credit/debit cards, signed authorisation form saying you agree to them taking money from the card, & photo ID. After that you're up and running. They've very good odds for soccer as well as NFL. Not as many markets but certainly competitive prices.
I thought they are based in Gibraltar though. The credit card authorisation form refers to Pinnacle Sports (Gibraltar) |
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He asked you a question which you can't answer because you don't understand how it works.
Surprised at you Slickster,he has no account was at no party,the plagiarist doesn't bet. |
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Your comment about a spread betting firm offering poor value was funny.
Them lads in Davys and goodbodys were all sacked and had to give back their suits. Barca 3 Real 2........super match. |
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i just ask the question wildman because everything he says about that free night is true. i can only imagine one of his "mates" bundled him in on the sly
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Anyone who fancies beating SI's compound-bivariate regression statistical model for association soccer[based on individual player ratings, hence the spread instanteously updates for team news as & when] has my best wishes & sympathies.
In the long-run, carcases will be peeled off the floor. There was a wonderful recent quote on the General Betting summing up their statistical modelling approach to football:- "A sport which predictable long-term results, yet incredible short-term variation". The spread either side is a simply a manisfestation of the their educated 'guess-timate' of the true, long-term price-per-outcome. |
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Slickster he read about it on some other forum,that's where he gets this hybrid half knowledge with glaring errors he comes up with.
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Lads/Slick i'm not speaking down to you ok and please don't think i'm being arrogant or blowing my own trumpet as i'm not but tomorrow i will bet probably more than all you on this thread put together will do for the year, that's the truth. Anyway i worked for a firm in Dublin at the time, can't remember how i got into it but i rarely use it even though i would say hand on heart it's a winning account, last bet was a buy of Swansea in last year's prem points. They used to do LOI betting at one stage, which was somethng fun, but i think if you're serious about betting you have to know what you're risking. As i said if you can calculate player's performances,points total for season etc it's good for this, but individual matches it's not for me, better value elsewhere.
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i know the guy is a fantasist but this is bordering on a sickness.
as i said before, he's a nickel and dime merchant, at best. a sad individual..... |
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this guy cannot be for real. i doubt you would know how to write out a docket. this is a serious thread, so you should be nowhere near it. have you nothing else to do?
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Some people are so envious, i'm not sure why i come on here anymore. The irony of Slick's last line of his last post will be lost on so many of you including himself.
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as a matter of morbid curiosity, how much did you buy swansea's points for? if the question is not too technical.
how much did you "win?" |
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Rocket I tend not to engage in the stupid childish arguing that goes on here but you seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding of spread betting though maybe you are being picked up wrong.
By saying there's no value are you actually trying to say that it's too difficult to get an edge given the accurateness of the spreads over the long term or do you have some other reason for saying so? |