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workrider
14 Aug 12 20:52
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what is your take on the slave trade that was started by the arabs ....do you think they were right to enslave their  brothers ....causing them untold suffering down the centuries ....?
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Report Ozymandius August 14, 2012 9:05 PM BST
Laugh

what a bizzare question!  I know very little about the topic.  Simple answer, no I don't think they were right.  What led you to think that I might have thought differently?
Report workrider August 14, 2012 9:10 PM BST
the fact that you thought wildmans views were a little off ...i thought that you might have the impression that only whites were racist ...just glad to see you agree , maybe you might enlighten us a little more re you views on arab slavery ...why do you agree with me would do for a start....
Report workrider August 14, 2012 9:10 PM BST
the fact that you thought wildmans views were a little off ...i thought that you might have the impression that only whites were racist ...just glad to see you agree , maybe you might enlighten us a little more re you views on arab slavery ...why do you agree with me would do for a start....
Report Ozymandius August 14, 2012 9:56 PM BST
Well, I like to think that today most civilised people disagree with any form of slavery, past or present.  You must have had me down as some sort of Barbarian!

Nor am I left wing or polically correct as you seem to believe.  If anything I am the antithesis of such.

And naturally not only whites are racist.  Anti-whitism is often much more virulent and potent. We (whites) tend to bear such racisim better, however, as we have been conditioned over the centuries to see ourselves as superior.  Therefore it is easier for us to laugh it off.  This can lead to white people expecting black people to also be able to laugh off perceived racism and not make an issue of it.  This is an unfair expectation, we have to thread gently.
Report workrider August 14, 2012 10:30 PM BST
i find your ,We (whites) tend to bear such racisim better, however, as we have been conditioned over the centuries to see ourselves as superior....thats not me mate , i dont know were you get that from ...if anything as an irishman i've been made feel inferior by some ...  your , Therefore it is easier for us to laugh it off.  This can lead to white people expecting black people to also be able to laugh off perceived racism and not make an issue of it.  This is an unfair expectation, we have to thread gently...is a little hard to take ...are you telling me that because i'm white i dont have the same hurt feelings as blacks....?...i think your impression of white and black feeling seem to be tapered with a tinge of colour if you'll excuse the pun....
Report Ozymandius August 14, 2012 11:08 PM BST
I know what you are saying.  Superiority does not fit easily with Irish folk.  However, over recent centuries, in a global context, to be born white was to have greater life expectancy and greater opportunities.  Hence the subconcious perception of superiority.

Just consider how our use of words has evolved; for example the negative connotations of words including 'black'; blackmail, blacklist, black death, black plague, black magic etc etc. Black is a mysterious color associated with fear and the unknown (black holes) and is associated with grief. White is associated with goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection.  Now of course we know conciously that color metaphors do not translate into race credibilities, but on a subconcious level......
Report bobbybocala August 15, 2012 10:26 AM BST
ozymandius.....u are worse for getting into a debate with this tool......the poor man wouldnt know what day of the week he has......as for intelligent debate......stop now please......this is a 60 year old man who goes round with a rovers scarf on him.....he knows as much about the slave trade and the arabs......as the average LOI soccer supporter knows about work......
Report workrider August 15, 2012 11:54 AM BST
your words sound familiar ozy , are they on the first page of chairman maos little red book ....Laugh..ffs keep those ideas to yourself , or maybe you might get some 14 yo school kid to believe that tripe...so now that us whites are aware that we are not superior , we have to mind what we say lest we hurt our coloured friends ...i doubt our coloured friends would have the collective ability to stop and think that everytime we used the word black in some shape or form it was ment as an insult to them...thats what you make it sound like..... its time you and your ilk  stopped doing their thinking for them and let them express themselves as they see fit ....start treating them as people who have an opinion , not as you seem to see them , like little children lost in  your world , were white people are only out to insult them ...
Report bobbybocala August 15, 2012 12:03 PM BST
best not to get too technical now wonks......stick to what u know best.....LOI .....well done winners and booooom......rovers til i die......that kind of thing......on top of nobody knowing what ya are on about.......i dont think u even have an idea this time.....
Report workrider August 15, 2012 12:14 PM BST
now booby the liar , i'll address myself to you a minute , i would to think you were just someone who came on here and had a pop ...then recently i decided to take a look at some of your post over the past few months ..do you know what i found booby ...all the classic sign of a manic depressive ...in none of your post have you ever showed even a tiny glimpse of positively ....i searched and searched but never found one iota ...now that is sad very sad ....i had to ask myself the question , what must it be like to live with that kind of head you have , and do you know what booby , my heart bled for you ...to think i slagged you time after time on here , the pain you must have felt , please accept my sincere apology , i never ment to cause you grief you poor man ...from your constant bitterness to all and sundry on here , it really should have been obvious to us all your state of mind ...again the fact that you cried for help many times on here and i never spotted it ..makes me more ashamed..i promise to leave you alone from now on you poor man ...i wish you all the best , and  hope you make a full recovery...god speed my friend...
Report wildmanfromborneo August 15, 2012 12:15 PM BST
Well does Workrider understand,Ozymandius uses the crazy language of London boroughs the ones that banned the nursery rhyme baa baa black sheep.He thinks all kids who went to see Westerns were racist because the baddies wore black hats,he is full of self loathing that he thinks all our history is evil real loony left nonsense.
Report bobbybocala August 15, 2012 12:45 PM BST
wonky.....ya should be ashamed.....but not for the reasons you say.....as for u figuring out the signs of a manic depressive......ya can barely read or write ya tool......yer hardly going to be able to do things that people go to college for years....to try and perfect.....think it was a glimpse of positivity u were looking for......not a glimpse of positively.....u poor creature.....if u want to know the truth......ya are incapable of slagging anybody.......the only reason u are going to leave me alone.......is because ya get pummelled every time......i keep telling ya.......stick to the rovers threads.......they suit ya much better......
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